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Re: Hazard CONFIRMS he's the best player in the League
Mr Nick09 wrote:the vacuum of big player in EPL simply means that any duck that plays and looks nice on youtube is going to get pushed up and compared against the best in the other leagues, regardless of his actual level. It doesn't go much further than that lol.
You did splash 85m on one of our ducks, so its not all that bad.
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Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
“You can compare how he is playing with Neymar and Luis Suarez because he makes the difference for Chelsea in every game.”
What a load of bollocks, if that's the case why wasn't they rolling through teams last year with the mighty Hazard?
It's Fabregas that makes the difference and it also helps they have a DM to protect everyone and not David Luiz.
Hazard has his flashes of brilliance but to say he's the one making the difference is utter bollocks, he goes through large majority of games doing nothing and then does something eye catching.
He maybe one of the most talented players in the league but his consistency of performance doesn't match that.
No one said he's shit or not legit, only his comments are overly arrogant based on the fact Fabregas is better than him and he defers to his team mates far too often leading to large moments of inconsistency.
Last time I'm going to educate people who simply can't or refuse to read on the subject.
What do you define as "consistency"? Is it giving an assist or scoring a goal every game(or every other game)? Because asides that, he has been fantastic in every match bar 1 or 2 for us this season. I can't count how many times he has drawn defenders away and created space Costa or Oscar to feed on or the amount of "hockey assists"(assist before the assist) he has had this season. So many other things he does. The only thing that's not showing yet are the goals and assists, and they're starting to show gradually.
So when you say "he's not consistent", I really hope you're not referring to these 10 or so odd games we've played in all comps this season. Because it would prove you haven't watched any of the games and you're talking out your arse
Enjoy.
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Blue Barrett wrote:Mr Nick09 wrote:the vacuum of big player in EPL simply means that any duck that plays and looks nice on youtube is going to get pushed up and compared against the best in the other leagues, regardless of his actual level. It doesn't go much further than that lol.
You did splash 85m on one of our ducks, so its not all that bad.
You support Spurs/Southampton?
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Zealous wrote:Blue Barrett wrote:Mr Nick09 wrote:the vacuum of big player in EPL simply means that any duck that plays and looks nice on youtube is going to get pushed up and compared against the best in the other leagues, regardless of his actual level. It doesn't go much further than that lol.
You did splash 85m on one of our ducks, so its not all that bad.
You support Spurs/Southampton?
He was talking about the league I "technically" support. Don't get too smart
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Nah if I was being too smart I would have said that Madrid didn't sign any "ducks" from the EPL in the first place
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what a terrible post. as if i give any value to that lolBlue Barrett wrote:Mr Nick09 wrote:the vacuum of big player in EPL simply means that any duck that plays and looks nice on youtube is going to get pushed up and compared against the best in the other leagues, regardless of his actual level. It doesn't go much further than that lol.
You did splash 85m on one of our ducks, so its not all that bad.
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What is it about humble and respectful Hazard that makes GL mad as hell and not going to take it anymore?
Lets see if the usual suspects are anywhere to be seen in this thread after this weekend.
Lets see if the usual suspects are anywhere to be seen in this thread after this weekend.
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Re: Hazard CONFIRMS he's the best player in the League
Mr Nick09 wrote:what a terrible post. as if i give any value to that lolBlue Barrett wrote:Mr Nick09 wrote:the vacuum of big player in EPL simply means that any duck that plays and looks nice on youtube is going to get pushed up and compared against the best in the other leagues, regardless of his actual level. It doesn't go much further than that lol.
You did splash 85m on one of our ducks, so its not all that bad.
You are disgusting, how terrible.
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Re: Hazard CONFIRMS he's the best player in the League
The rampant disdain for Hazard by certain members of this forum is almost as odd as the raging fanboyism for Benzema by certain members of this forum.
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Pippo wrote:The rampant disdain for Hazard by certain members of this forum is almost as odd as the raging fanboyism for Benzema by certain members of this forum.
the pain of benzema playing well is clearly hurting this forum , whatever happened you just going silent like normal? what falcao doing bleep all in a similar situation, makes every other fantasy bs logic, being throw around like a gospel moot? i swear you jokers think being critical for certain players make you cool, while being completely stupid all at the same time funny how dat works
also not insanely fanboyism how a player like hazard can perform on scrubs and be a debate for best player in the league and top 5 player in the world , bleeping kidding me?, that not raging moronic fanboyism good lad pippo?
while benzema creating chances and scoring, on next to nothing, gets treated like garbage daily is fair and legit criticism, that feverishly debating by deluded fanboys? yeah stfu pippo, this forum and its constant need to be stupid
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Re: Hazard CONFIRMS he's the best player in the League
we should get a stat on chad's 1840 posts and see how many of them involve the word benzema.
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donut with another irrelevant post, cause his brain is too slow, but he needs me to notice him constantly
anyway im done looking forward to later
anyway im done looking forward to later
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Re: Hazard CONFIRMS he's the best player in the League
oh I'm sorry for being irrelevant, lets just get back to the topic of benzema.. and who knows maybe we'll eventually talk about higuain or falcao.
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Re: Hazard CONFIRMS he's the best player in the League
I may not follow this forum as much as I may want to, but does anyone here actually get frustrated when Benzema plays well? I know that Fußball cracks jokes about him all the time, I think Zealous [?] prefers Higuaín and brings it up often, and I know that Donuts finds your smiley-laden rants funny. Honestly, I don't even understand a quarter of your post. What is this?chad4401 wrote:Pippo wrote:The rampant disdain for Hazard by certain members of this forum is almost as odd as the raging fanboyism for Benzema by certain members of this forum.
the pain of benzema playing well is clearly hurting this forum , whatever happened you just going silent like normal? what falcao doing bleep all in a similar situation, makes every other fantasy bs logic, being throw around like a gospel moot? i swear you jokers think being critical for certain players make you cool, while being completely stupid all at the same time funny how dat works
also not insanely fanboyism how a player like hazard can perform on scrubs and be a debate for best player in the league and top 5 player in the world , bleeping kidding me?, that not raging moronic fanboyism good lad pippo?
while benzema creating chances and scoring, on next to nothing, gets treated like garbage daily is fair and legit criticism, that feverishly debating by deluded fanboys? yeah stfu pippo, this forum and its constant need to be stupid
the pain of Benzema playing well is clearly hurting this forum , whatever happened you just going silent like normal? what falcao doing bleep all in a similar situation, makes every other fantasy bs logic, being throw around like a gospel moot? i swear you jokers think being critical for certain players make you cool, while being completely stupid all at the same time funny how dat works
At this point, I just think people are trying to rile you up. You are almost frothing at the mouth whenever Benzema is brought up, even over the smallest things; I think it was Fußball who posted a vine of 'Binzema' scuffing a shot and you got involved in an argument. Lighten up, man.
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Please return to the topic.
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Anyways, I think the criticism of Hazard is over-the-top. He clearly is one of the best players in the world. His performances at club level have shown that for a while now, especially when he is playing at his best.
I'm not sure why people criticise him for drifting in and out of games when it is a staple in almost every footballer's game. When it takes Leo Messi almost 10 minutes to get his first touch on the ball against Elche [?], you won't hear people bringing that up. The same criticism isn't levied on the likes of Neymar or Ronaldo [amongst others] from what I have seen on this forum.
I would say Hazard is a player who builds of moments in matches where he can just take control of a momen with his incredible ability. He has shown that a lot this season -- I never followed Chelsea last season apart from a handful of matches.
Hazard has played quite well in big matches, like the ones against Manchester City, Spurs and Arsenal. But he isn't someone who will dominate matches, that's more for Fàbregas. Hazard is the x-factor and he only needs to add more of a predatory instinct to his game before he reaches those top five debates.
I'm not sure why people criticise him for drifting in and out of games when it is a staple in almost every footballer's game. When it takes Leo Messi almost 10 minutes to get his first touch on the ball against Elche [?], you won't hear people bringing that up. The same criticism isn't levied on the likes of Neymar or Ronaldo [amongst others] from what I have seen on this forum.
I would say Hazard is a player who builds of moments in matches where he can just take control of a momen with his incredible ability. He has shown that a lot this season -- I never followed Chelsea last season apart from a handful of matches.
Hazard has played quite well in big matches, like the ones against Manchester City, Spurs and Arsenal. But he isn't someone who will dominate matches, that's more for Fàbregas. Hazard is the x-factor and he only needs to add more of a predatory instinct to his game before he reaches those top five debates.
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I think part of the reason might have to do with Gil as well. He specialises in polemics. But underneath the heavy layers of hyperbole, some of what he says is right, specifically this:
In the match against Arsenal, Hazard opened the match with an amazing solo-run, he almost forced an own goal by Koscielny [it took a point-blank deflection from Szczesny to stop it from going inside his net], and he missed the second-best [?] chance of the match. He won quite a few fouls, he forced the yellow-card for Chambers who was completely limited defensively and so Hazard attracted more players to him. It was a great performance, fully deserving of the man-of-the-match award he won.
In the match against Manchester City, Hazard changed the match, starting that incredible counter-attacking sequence which led to his assist for Schürrle's goal -- I don't know which one was more impressive, the initial outlet ball or the final ball. He was the x-factor for Chelsea in a match where Diego Costa was marginalised and Fàbregas was restricted. Chelsea should have won that match.
Last example, the Villa match. Where many people [including Hazard himself] said it was a bad game. I didn't think it was to be honest, he created the second goal which sealed the match, his backheel to Diego Costa set-up the 1-on-1 with Guzan which was only stopped by a goal-line clearance. He created a great chance for Costa from a cross having humiliated Hutton on the left wing, Costa mis-hit the ball. He mis-played quite a few passes and failed at being fancy more than once but he played a big role in Chelsea's attack and helped close the game.
I think some of the people here are just expecting something that Hazard doesn't bring to the table which leads to over-the-top criticism.
While he may not dominate or influence matches over the course of 90 minutes, he makes things happen in very short sequences that completely change them. Just three quick examples.Gil wrote:The fact that people hold him to such high standards is evidence of his ability. He'll eventually deliver the statistics you stat-whores obsesses over. For the time being he's able to impact the game in ways only a handful of players in the World can.
In the match against Arsenal, Hazard opened the match with an amazing solo-run, he almost forced an own goal by Koscielny [it took a point-blank deflection from Szczesny to stop it from going inside his net], and he missed the second-best [?] chance of the match. He won quite a few fouls, he forced the yellow-card for Chambers who was completely limited defensively and so Hazard attracted more players to him. It was a great performance, fully deserving of the man-of-the-match award he won.
In the match against Manchester City, Hazard changed the match, starting that incredible counter-attacking sequence which led to his assist for Schürrle's goal -- I don't know which one was more impressive, the initial outlet ball or the final ball. He was the x-factor for Chelsea in a match where Diego Costa was marginalised and Fàbregas was restricted. Chelsea should have won that match.
Last example, the Villa match. Where many people [including Hazard himself] said it was a bad game. I didn't think it was to be honest, he created the second goal which sealed the match, his backheel to Diego Costa set-up the 1-on-1 with Guzan which was only stopped by a goal-line clearance. He created a great chance for Costa from a cross having humiliated Hutton on the left wing, Costa mis-hit the ball. He mis-played quite a few passes and failed at being fancy more than once but he played a big role in Chelsea's attack and helped close the game.
I think some of the people here are just expecting something that Hazard doesn't bring to the table which leads to over-the-top criticism.
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I'm typing too much. If only I was better with one-liners.
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Pippo wrote:I'm typing too much. If only I was better with one-liners.
you're doing fine. Great posts.
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disgusting because i think what my club does, doesn't reflect my opinion.Abramovich wrote:Mr Nick09 wrote:what a terrible post. as if i give any value to that lolBlue Barrett wrote:
You did splash 85m on one of our ducks, so its not all that bad.
You are disgusting, how terrible.
you aren't very smart aren't you?
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Enough, Nick, you're going off topic again.
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Mr Nick09 wrote:disgusting because i think what my club does, doesn't reflect my opinion.Abramovich wrote:Mr Nick09 wrote:
what a terrible post. as if i give any value to that lol
You are disgusting, how terrible.
you aren't very smart aren't you?
Why are you making stuff up again? I said you are disgusting as a person, not anything related to your club and lol your club which one
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Great posts, Pippo.
Also, I've noticed that a lot of the people criticizing Hazard(and some supporting) are misunderstanding that interview. To make it clearer to you lot:
"Are you a top 5 player in the world?"
Hazard: "No, I'm not there yet. Maybe I'm close but I'm not there yet. I need to do more and be more decisive in games....etc etc"
"So who are the top 5 players you think are better than you"
Hazard: "Top 5 better than me? *names top 5*"
Keep in mind: This does not actually mean he's saying he's number 6 right after that top 5 he mentioned. Refer back to the "maybe I'm close" line.
I thought that was obvious enough to figure out on first read but it appears a lot of you have just skimmed through or just completely missed that.
P.S. I don't care if you don't think he's top 10 even or top 20. But don't say it like he meant he's top 6. Read English and understand then proceed to criticize as you wish. Thank you.
Also, I've noticed that a lot of the people criticizing Hazard(and some supporting) are misunderstanding that interview. To make it clearer to you lot:
"Are you a top 5 player in the world?"
Hazard: "No, I'm not there yet. Maybe I'm close but I'm not there yet. I need to do more and be more decisive in games....etc etc"
"So who are the top 5 players you think are better than you"
Hazard: "Top 5 better than me? *names top 5*"
Keep in mind: This does not actually mean he's saying he's number 6 right after that top 5 he mentioned. Refer back to the "maybe I'm close" line.
I thought that was obvious enough to figure out on first read but it appears a lot of you have just skimmed through or just completely missed that.
P.S. I don't care if you don't think he's top 10 even or top 20. But don't say it like he meant he's top 6. Read English and understand then proceed to criticize as you wish. Thank you.
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pippo listen I don't give a *bleep* if posters are trying to rile me up, im not wrong brah nor am i supporting benzema any differently, than the mobs that follows cr and messi, its because you guys think benzema shouldn't be rated cause the media tries to scapegoat him after every game, this forum is full of shit and brain dead
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Poor Jil. Thought he said we'll run away after eden destroys man utd by the weekend.. Hahahahazard!!!!!
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I strongly suspect He might be saying that still. That hazard destroyed us.
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