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Post by Bankz on Mon Feb 16, 2015 8:59 pm

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Post by jibers on Mon Feb 16, 2015 9:24 pm

For me Hazard is the most complete left winger at Chelsea since Malouda.

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Post by Pip on Tue Feb 17, 2015 1:13 am

Who are the left wingers who have played for Chelsea since 2009, apart from Malouda?

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Post by Gil on Tue Feb 17, 2015 1:32 am

He's trolling ignore him. Stringer Bell :bow: Unreal avi
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Post by Rebaño Sagrado on Tue Feb 17, 2015 1:43 am

@Gil wrote:He's trolling ignore him. Stringer Bell :bow: Unreal avi
That's actually James Bond.

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Post by Katy Perry on Tue Feb 17, 2015 1:51 am

Mata was a LW under AVB but that's it, we had no one else as a LW.
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Post by nasir6371 on Tue Feb 17, 2015 3:00 am

Mara leaving out the context.

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Post by Tomwin Lannister on Tue Feb 17, 2015 3:47 am

And I want to have a threesome with Margot Robbie and prime Stacy Keibler but that's just not how life works

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Post by futbol on Tue Feb 17, 2015 7:49 am

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Those stats are great but Hazard needs to validate and prove himself in a real league first (i. e. La Liga) if he wants to be regarded as a world class player. For example Hazard is averaging 4.5 dribbles per game but Alexis Sanchez is also the 4th best dribbler in the Mule League all of a sudden while in La Liga he was a terrible dribbler, publicly admitting as much and earning himself the nickname "Slippery Sanchez".

Sanchez successful dribbles per game in La Liga (as a reminder: the best league in the world by a large margin where all the GOATs play):

11/12: 0.9
12/13: 0.9
13/14: 1.1

Sanchez successful dribbles per game in Mule League:

14/15: 3.4.

Another example.

Cristiano Ronaldo dribbling level in La Liga (since I don't have numbers that date back to pre 09/10 I will describe it qualitatively instead of quantitatively): "Sad He was so much better at dribbling in England. Ronaldo. Sad What happened? Manchester United Ronaldo was the most exciting Ronaldo. Sad"

Hazard needs to make the next step instead of fooling around in the rich man's Conference National before he can be talked about as a serious footballer.

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Post by nasir6371 on Tue Feb 17, 2015 8:09 am

Not sure about proving himself in La Liga. But he can't reach his potential when he plays Left Back in all the big fixtures. Mou's POB & Counter attack tactics is holding him back.

PSG should be a good indicator. Will he be over shadowed by Cesc/Costa/Oscar "More Creative than Mozart" Emboaba Júnior or play to he potential.

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Post by Curtinho on Tue Feb 17, 2015 2:28 pm

lol the 'GOAT' league La Liga.

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Post by Glory on Tue Feb 17, 2015 3:15 pm

Fußball wrote:


Those stats are great but Hazard needs to validate and prove himself in a real league first (i. e. La Liga) if he wants to be regarded as a world class player.


I think I agree here to this point on second thought. But then again, hazard seeing the way he plays right now, its more likely he will be fine there if he get the chance.
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Post by jibers on Tue Feb 17, 2015 4:45 pm

Hazard is good. The fact is that Mou has changed the balance of his team to bring out his best and yet he still isn't as influential as he could be imo. There won't be another Messi in my lifetime. Hazard should focus on being the best he can be for the team rather than trying to emulate the best attacking player in the last 3 and a half decades.

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Post by Unique on Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:02 am

Pippo wrote:Who are the left wingers who have played for Chelsea since 2009, apart from Malouda?

boom. head shot cheers

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Post by Katy Perry on Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:24 am

MR BOND wrote:
Pippo wrote:Who are the left wingers who have played for Chelsea since 2009, apart from Malouda?

boom. head shot cheers
 He's also been the best winger of the whole PL since CR7 left. boom headshoot cheers
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Post by Unique on Thu Feb 19, 2015 1:48 am

@Katy Perry wrote:
MR BOND wrote:
Pippo wrote:Who are the left wingers who have played for Chelsea since 2009, apart from Malouda?

boom. head shot cheers
 He's also been the best winger of the whole PL since CR7 left. boom headshoot cheers

cr7 was never realy a winger. but hazard could match him up all day for diving. :coffee:

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Post by Kick on Thu Feb 19, 2015 2:07 am

BS, CR7 started out as a tricky, skinny winger. It wasn't until he grew up a bit before he became what he is today.

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Post by Unique on Thu Feb 19, 2015 2:12 am

@Kick wrote:BS, CR7 started out as a tricky, skinny winger. It wasn't until he grew up a bit before he became what he is today.
@Kick wrote:BS, CR7 started out as a tricky, skinny winger. It wasn't until he grew up a bit before he became what he is today.

that's crazy talk. Ronaldo at his best had a free roll. and tbh. hazard is not in the same lge as Ronaldo anyway. Cool

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Post by Bankz on Fri Feb 20, 2015 12:27 pm

Hazard, player who would never score even if his salvation depended on it. You hear their fans bashing other players for scoring goals like there's some sort of negative to scoring goals, the very essence of the game itself and the clutchest thing a player can produce in a game. You equally hear fan boys saying things like "but he had the most attempted dribbles per game" "but he is being the most fouled player" or his given the most passes in the 18" I mean, like seriously? :facepalm: Just take a look at ronaldo, messi, neymar, robben (recently), aguero, and to some extent bale at Tottenham..they regularly produce the goods, even if some aren't even leading men for their sides or cfs..
Hazard, while being a good player, would never get to a world class level (yeah, I know that term is bastardized now), or even elite level if he doesn't tweak or change his game to the levels required of today's absolute top players. Otherwise he's at the level of guys like gotze.
So, hazard should free himself of those excuses (most fouled player, most completed dribbles in the bigger half of the field Razz , most this and most that) he usually likes to hide behind and man up to start doing the most important things in the game like those top players he so much compares himself with always do.
Messi, for all his perfection, still, is better at scoring goals than any other part of his game.
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Post by Mr Nick09 on Fri Feb 20, 2015 2:51 pm

what a ridiculous comment, sorry...

Hazard, unlike Messi, CR or Neymar, is a midfielder, not a forward. It's that simple. If you can't see it, i don't know, we are wasting time here.

He doesn't need to score 40 goals a season to become world class in his career. you can't judge a player negatively by placing unfair expectation on him.

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Post by jibers on Fri Feb 20, 2015 2:52 pm

@Mr Nick09 wrote:what a ridiculous comment, sorry...

Hazard, unlike Messi, CR or Neymar, is a midfielder, not a forward. It's that simple. If you can't see it, i don't know, we are wasting time here.

He doesn't need to score 40 goals a season to become world class in his career. you can't judge a player negatively by placing unfair expectation on him.


Spot on. People here are just deluded though. The Americanisation of the sport is complete. Stats mean everything now. Zidane would be a scrub in this era tbh. Farce.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Fri Feb 20, 2015 3:04 pm

The only thing Hazard would need to do validate himself is take over in the KO stages of the CL, as does Neymar, Suarez and Aguero btw.

All the leagues are meh, CL KOs are all that matters when evaluating the elite.
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Post by Rebelles.REUS.rex on Fri Feb 20, 2015 3:09 pm

@Mr Nick09 wrote:what a ridiculous comment, sorry...

Hazard, unlike Messi, CR or Neymar, is a midfielder, not a forward. It's that simple. If you can't see it, i don't know, we are wasting time here.

He doesn't need to score 40 goals a season to become world class in his career. you can't judge a player negatively by placing unfair expectation on him.



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Post by jibers on Fri Feb 20, 2015 3:17 pm

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:The only thing Hazard would need to do validate himself is take over in the KO stages of the CL, as does Neymar, Suarez and Aguero btw.

All the leagues are meh, CL KOs are all that matters when evaluating the elite.


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Post by futbol on Fri Feb 20, 2015 3:30 pm

I don't disagree with Nick's actual point but how is Hazard a midfielder "unlike Messi"? Messi averages 62 passes per game, 10th most in La Liga but 4 of those ahead of him are defenders. Only 7 passes less per game than Kroos who is Madrid's deepest midfielder. Laughing

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Fri Feb 20, 2015 3:34 pm

Messi is abnormal lol, what he does don't even make sense. He really shouldn't be compared to anyone lol, dude is a freak.
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