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Post by Harmonica on Sun Sep 16, 2018 5:56 pm

Salah is the biggest con job since Fakenaldo.

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Re: Hazard CONFIRMS he's the best player in the League

Post by Blue on Sun Sep 16, 2018 6:36 pm

@rincon wrote:I don't think anyone but a Chelsea fan can say that Hazard is the best player in the league, better than Neymar, the third best player in the world, and now even knocking on being the best in the world.

The only thing he solidified for years is an uphill battle in terms of being rated since he ghosted an entire season.


What is wrong with some of you, just look up a few posts above your post you would see links to quotes by Sane and Robertson.

This forum is the equivalent of a right wing conspiracy forum, even at the face of evidence and facts they are being ignored.




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Re: Hazard CONFIRMS he's the best player in the League

Post by rincon on Sun Sep 16, 2018 7:12 pm

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@rincon wrote:I don't think anyone but a Chelsea fan can say that Hazard is the best player in the league, better than Neymar, the third best player in the world, and now even knocking on being the best in the world.

The only thing he solidified for years is an uphill battle in terms of being rated since he ghosted an entire season.


What is wrong with some of you, just look up a few posts above your post you would see links to quotes by Sane and Robertson.

This forum is the equivalent of a right wing conspiracy forum, even at the face of evidence and facts they are being ignored.

I'll bite. What evidence? where is the evidence in your post that proves that Hazard is the best player in anything.

Let's play the quote game. Pep: "Zidane is the best player in history". @Blue, on the face of this evidence, do you disagree that Zidane is the best player in history?

Now, lets take this argument apart. The evidence we do have tells us that if we add up the last 4 league seasons of hazard, he still scored less total goals than many single seasons in the league by Messi or Ronaldo.

That abysmal difference should be enough. We don't have to go to the extraterrestrials that are Messi and CR. Hazard needs 3 seasons to match the scoring of Salah's single PL season. Given that Salah just did this, it is extremely safe to say that he is the current best player of the league. Evidence being, Salah is the holder of the PFA,FWA and PL player of the season award. Hazard has been missing from these awards since 2015.

On Neymar. Just a small piece of evidence: add every single season of european football played by Hazard, yes EL and CL, add all the goals that Hazard has scored in those and its less than 1 season of Neymar in the CL.

These are overwhelming stats comparing 4 left wingers plus Messi. Clearly Hazard is blown away in the scoring department, comparing creating to Messi and Neymar would also be pointless for him (De Bruyne alone assists more in the PL per season than Hazard in the last 4 combined). There's no need to take stats and awards as absolute evidence (although they are certainly worth more than quotes), the eye test will tell anyone that these players are head and shoulders above Hazard. He needs WAY more consistency to be in a conversation with the two GOATS that have monopolized the BdO for like 10 years in a row.
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Re: Hazard CONFIRMS he's the best player in the League

Post by Blue on Mon Sep 17, 2018 12:30 am

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@rincon wrote:I don't think anyone but a Chelsea fan can say that Hazard is the best player in the league, better than Neymar, the third best player in the world, and now even knocking on being the best in the world.

The only thing he solidified for years is an uphill battle in terms of being rated since he ghosted an entire season.


What is wrong with some of you, just look up a few posts above your post you would see links to quotes by Sane and Robertson.

This forum is the equivalent of a right wing conspiracy forum, even at the face of evidence and facts they are being ignored.

I'll bite. What evidence? where is the evidence in your post that proves that Hazard is the best player in anything.


Clearly the evidence is Sane and Robertson quotes, to contradict your ridiculous claim that only Chelsea fans rate him along those lines.

If we are going by stats then Frank Lampard is the best CM ever, i honestly find it insulting that we are lowering this beautiful sport to mere stats.

"the eye test will tell anyone that these players are head and shoulders above Hazard." wrote:
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And this is where i stop bothering with your absolute shitty post. You know if you were going to pass this as your opinion i would have respected that, because it is only your opinion. You view seem to go past KDB and Salah teammates who you know train and see them everyday, they disagree obviously. Clearly your statement anyone can see that they are head and shoulders above is misleading and utterly ridiculous.

Anyway i am done, enjoy your day. It will be a while before i get into these Vs debates. Tend to find those who get into these Vs debates are mainly influenced by their own insecurities.

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Re: Hazard CONFIRMS he's the best player in the League

Post by rincon on Mon Sep 17, 2018 7:14 am

Footballers quotes are as fickle as can be.

What's ridiculous is claiming Hazard is in the same league as Messi Laughing
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Re: Hazard CONFIRMS he's the best player in the League

Post by urbaNRoots on Mon Sep 17, 2018 11:18 am

Reminder that Hazard himself once called Gervinho „the most skillful player he ever played with“.
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Post by Blue on Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:09 pm

@urbaNRoots wrote:Reminder that Hazard himself once called Gervinho „the most skillful player he ever played with“.


Clearly you have the intelligence to discern a praise from a teammate and one from a rival. One should clearly know any comments from a teammate/ex teammate should be taken with grain of salt, while praise from a rival should be held with a much higher regard.

Interesting how much of a denial some are on this forum, first only Chelsea fans rate Hazard among the best in the world and League best. Next the opinion of footballers and peers amount to nothing.

Liverpool Legend Claims Hazard is best in the league

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6180085/Jamie-Carragher-says-Eden-Hazard-best-player-Premier-League.html

<blockquote class="twitter-tweet" data-lang="en"><p lang="en" dir="ltr">Andy Gray agrees with Maurizio Sarri - <a href="https://twitter.com/hazardeden10?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">@hazardeden10</a> is the best in the world! <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/beINPL?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#beINPL</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/Chelsea?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#Chelsea</a> <a href="https://twitter.com/hashtag/CFC?src=hash&amp;ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">#CFC</a> <a href="https://t.co/7GG6L1KxRx">pic.twitter.com/7GG6L1KxRx</a></p>— beIN SPORTS (@beINSPORTS) <a href="https://twitter.com/beINSPORTS/status/1041755103265402880?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw">September 17, 2018</a></blockquote>
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Re: Hazard CONFIRMS he's the best player in the League

Post by urbaNRoots on Tue Sep 18, 2018 6:35 pm

@Blue wrote:
@urbaNRoots wrote:Reminder that Hazard himself once called Gervinho „the most skillful player he ever played with“.


Clearly you have the intelligence to discern a praise from a teammate and one from a rival. One should clearly know any comments from a teammate/ex teammate should be taken with grain of salt, while praise from a rival should be held with a much higher regard.

Interesting how much of a denial some are on this forum, first only Chelsea fans rate Hazard among the best in the world and League best. Next the opinion of footballers and peers amount to nothing.

Liverpool Legend Claims Hazard is best in the league

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6180085/Jamie-Carragher-says-Eden-Hazard-best-player-Premier-League.html



I thought you were not really serious in your first post...

You can post quotes all you want, these are just a few opinions which don‘t represent the majority who don‘t circlejerk around Hazard every time he finds some poor team to score a hattrick on.

How about posting some stats or examples on why you have this opinion instead of these quotes which make you look like Chelsea‘s jiopsi?

Where was this supposed best player in the league last year? Or the year before that when other Chelsea players outperformed him? It‘s been what, 2-3 years since he showed this kind of form and we‘re supposed to think he‘s the best player in the league based on a run of 5 game? Hell nah.

Anyway since you can‘t take us peasants seriously, have you thought about the amount of players who HAVEN‘T come out and called Hazard the best player in the league? Think on that.
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Re: Hazard CONFIRMS he's the best player in the League

Post by Valkyrja on Wed Sep 26, 2018 10:49 pm

You've got to be crazy to doubt this.

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Re: Hazard CONFIRMS he's the best player in the League

Post by Hapless_Hans on Wed Sep 26, 2018 10:55 pm

You don't

There's a reason this thread is bumbed only occasionally

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Re: Hazard CONFIRMS he's the best player in the League

Post by Nishankly on Wed Sep 26, 2018 11:08 pm

Moses destroyed Moreno for 60 mins, if Hazard couldnt he only has himself to blame lol
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Post by Blue on Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:51 am

haha.... So Hazard picks up the ball from midway through the pitch swarmed by three defenders, escapes them while nutmegs one of them, receives the ball immediately back outside the penalty box, dribbles past two players while another defender attempts to close down on him before firing the ball into the net.

Yup Moreno is the reason here. haha

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Post by Myesyats on Thu Sep 27, 2018 8:02 am

He's a Isco with a more punchable face. Madrid would be foolish to spend any crazy amount of money Chelsea will ask. He's soon to be 28 and he hasn't done anything really worth of note in his career yet. Those ~15 goals a season and 10 assists are numbers any half-decent player can rack up in a stacked team.
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Post by Valkyrja on Thu Sep 27, 2018 9:02 am

What stacked team ? For 6 years he's been playing with the likes of Oscar, Cesc, Morata, Willian, Schurrle and other scrubs and won 2 PL titles. You've been playing the blame game with Suarez for 2 years now and this guy is winning matches on his own partenered by Giroud in attack.

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Re: Hazard CONFIRMS he's the best player in the League

Post by urbaNRoots on Thu Sep 27, 2018 10:17 am

He wasn‘t the best player or even second best player in the last title win let alone carrying anyone.

With that said, that goal was insane, Moreno or not and he is playing some amazing football under Sarri, he is well on his way to becoming the best player if he keeps this up.

But we have to keep in mind that Hazard has shown before these short bursts of amazing football only to shit the bed for the rest of the season, we‘re going to have to wait and see if anything has really changed.
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Post by Nishankly on Thu Sep 27, 2018 12:43 pm

@Blue wrote:haha.... So Hazard picks up the ball from midway through the pitch swarmed by three defenders, escapes them while nutmegs one of them, receives the ball immediately back outside the penalty box, dribbles past two players while another defender attempts to close down on him before firing the ball into the net.

Yup Moreno is the reason here. haha


It was obviously a great goal that got you through to the next round, we lost and I will look at the situation. Hazard drifting everywhere etc is usual. Moreno getting beat in the box was unacceptable even though it was expected.
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Post by FennecFox7 on Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:38 pm

hazard plays so similar to isco.. the similarities are definitely there.

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Post by Myesyats on Thu Sep 27, 2018 2:43 pm

@Valkyrja wrote:What stacked team ? For 6 years he's been playing with the likes of Oscar, Cesc, Morata, Willian, Schurrle and other scrubs and won 2 PL titles.

When Pedro went to Chelsea he got close to numbers that Hazard is achieving. 10+ goals and 10+ assists by Pedro Rodriguez way past his prime.

And you'd be willing to pay 300 mil for Hazard who hardly racks up better stats that this?

Might as well get Ben Yedder or any other above average player.
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Post by Unique on Thu Sep 27, 2018 3:16 pm

Tbh hazard is unplayable. Like if you give him space like Moreno did he will score. If you defend well and close him down he will just fall over and the ref will give him the free kick every time. What needs to happen is someone running at full pelt and snap him clean in half. That’s how you deal with players like him.

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Re: Hazard CONFIRMS he's the best player in the League

Post by Valkyrja on Thu Sep 27, 2018 4:46 pm

@Myesyats wrote:
@Valkyrja wrote:What stacked team ? For 6 years he's been playing with the likes of Oscar, Cesc, Morata, Willian, Schurrle and other scrubs and won 2 PL titles.

When Pedro went to Chelsea he got close to numbers that Hazard is achieving. 10+ goals and 10+ assists by Pedro Rodriguez way past his prime.

And you'd be willing to pay 300 mil for Hazard who hardly racks up better stats that this?

Might as well get Ben Yedder or any other above average player.


I'm not looking at the stats, I'm looking at the way he plays football. The other day you were coming up with excuses for Pogba who is supposedly underperforming because of Mourinho's management but you're judging Hazard on the goals he scored in the 5 years he played under Jose and Conte ? Check his heatmaps in the last 5 years, his average position was similar to Iniesta. The guy is creating chances at will, can beat a player easier than anybody, his one touch play and first touch are world class, and he isn't a shaby finisher either, just that he didn't use to get on the end of chances until now because he was the ball carrier, playmaker in the final 3rd and dribbler. Now he has Jorginho, Kovacic to share the burden. And he is still playing with fcking Giroud in attack. I'm not sure if even Messi would have scored 50 a season playing for Mourinho's or COnte's Chelsea.

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Post by Valkyrja on Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:35 pm

Eden Hazard vs top 6:
Man Utd: 5 goals and 5 assists
Tottenham: 5 goals and 3 assists
Arsenal: 5 goals and 3 assists
Liverpool: 5 goals and 2 assists
Man City: 4 goals and 5 assists

More than 40 G+A against the Top 6 since he arrived in the PL.

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Post by Unique on Thu Sep 27, 2018 5:50 pm

@Valkyrja wrote:Eden Hazard vs top 6:
Man Utd: 5 goals and 5 assists
Tottenham: 5 goals and 3 assists
Arsenal: 5 goals and 3 assists
Liverpool: 5 goals and 2 assists
Man City: 4 goals and 5 assists

More than 40 G+A against the Top 6 since he arrived in the PL.
has he ever had a good game in the champions league

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Post by RealGunner on Thu Sep 27, 2018 7:40 pm

Yes

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Post by The Demon of Carthage on Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:06 pm

@Hazard wrote:Real Madrid are the best club in the world, I don't want to lie, it has been my dream since I was a kid
From the interview, you get the feeling he's pretty confident of coming to Madrid.

Perfect timing too cause the Bernabeu pitch could really use some sideway trimming.

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Post by Myesyats on Mon Oct 08, 2018 9:14 pm

I can't wait for this transfer to happen so that Madrid scores even fewer goals than it already does
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Post by Unique on Mon Oct 08, 2018 10:13 pm

@The Demon of Carthage wrote:
@Hazard wrote:Real Madrid are the best club in the world, I don't want to lie, it has been my dream since I was a kid
From the interview, you get the feeling he's pretty confident of coming to Madrid.

Perfect timing too cause the Bernabeu pitch could really use some sideway trimming.
also means that little turd will be gone by jan so no more liverpool making him look better than he is. cheers

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