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Post by Hapless_Hans Wed Oct 29, 2014 5:03 pm

I'll rent a helicopter on 12. January and fly from Berlin to Zürich, with stops in Wolfsburg and Sinsheim, which are along the route anyway.
Then I'll land on the roof of the Kongresshaus and crash the party with Ricardo Rodriguez and Roberto Firmino.
Top 10 players in the world ffs, absolute disgrace they're not nominated.

After we've been removed from the premises Rodriguez can take a tram to visit his family, while I go to have a drink and gamble a bit in a casino with Roberto.

I can sleep a couple of hours in the train station and take the MeinFernbus bus back to Berlin next day, only 33€, dirt cheap.
Rodriguez and Firmino got enough money to pay for a flight.

Or maybe I've been winning at black jack and go fly with them, which would be better, 12 hours bus ride is a bit undesirable hmm

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Post by sportsczy Wed Oct 29, 2014 6:37 pm

@M99  Loic Perrin is the CB for St Etienne.  Very good.  he was part of the extended squad for WC with France NT.  Not sure how he made it into this list though Laughing He's the only defender there Laughing
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Post by Casciavit Wed Oct 29, 2014 6:38 pm

Has a player who went out of the WC in the group stages, ever went on to win the Ballon d'or?
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Post by Harmonica Wed Oct 29, 2014 7:13 pm

Casciavit wrote:Has a player who went out of the WC in the group stages, ever went on to win the Ballon d'or?
No.

Year Name World Cup Ranking

1958 Kopa 3.
1962 Masopust 2.
1966 Charlton 1.
1970 Müller 3.
1974 Cruyff 2.
1978 Keegan (England not qualified)
1982 Rossi 1.
1986 Belanov 10. (R16)
1990 Matthaus 1.
1994 Stoichkov 4.
1998 Zidane 1.
2002 Ronaldo 1.
2006 Cannavaro 1.
2010 Messi 5. (QF)
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Post by M99 Wed Oct 29, 2014 10:23 pm

sportsczy wrote:@M99  Loic Perrin is the CB for St Etienne.  Very good.  he was part of the extended squad for WC with France NT.  Not sure how he made it into this list though Laughing He's the only defender there Laughing


So according to Harmonica and WhoScored he is the best CB in the world? Damn :bow:
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Post by Freeza Wed Oct 29, 2014 10:47 pm

Loic Perrin ffs Proud :bow:
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Post by Cruijf Wed Oct 29, 2014 11:45 pm

In some ways the WhoScored list is worse than the actual one Laughing
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Post by Harmonica Thu Oct 30, 2014 5:35 pm

Paco Aguilar is no longer Spanish journalist to vote for Ballon d'Or after last year's Madrid-inspired manipulation to let Ronaldo win. [md]

Aguilar says Ballon d'Or co-organizer France Football has turned into a Real Madrid fanzine and that he has been victim of mobbing. [md]

Not that it's surprise to anyone if you follow even remotely the media.
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Post by Zealous Thu Oct 30, 2014 5:54 pm

Mundo Deportivo complaining about another paper being a fanzine rofl
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Post by Harmonica Thu Oct 30, 2014 6:57 pm

Link to the full article https://translate.google.com/translate?sl=es&tl=en&js=y&prev=_t&hl=pt-BR&ie=UTF-8&u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mundodeportivo.com%2F20141030%2Fbalon-oro%2Fpor-que-ya-no-voto-en-el-fifa-balon-de-oro_54418723433.html&edit-text=
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Post by Hapless_Hans Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:15 pm

Harmonica wrote:Added James

2014 (27.10) in official games

Messi 43 (6pen) goals, 25 assists = directly part of 68 goals
Cronaldo 49 (10pen) goals, 12 assists = directly part of 61 goals

Benzema 28 (1pen) goals, 19 assists = directly part of 47 goals
Bale 21 (0pen) goals, 19 assists = directly part of 40 goals

Zlatan 27 (4pen) goals, 11 assists = directly part of 38 goals
Müller 24 (6pen) goals, 14 assists = directly part of 38 goals
Di Maria 10 (0pen) goals, 26 assists = directly part of 36 goals
Neymar 28 (0pen) goals, 7 assists = directly part of 35 goals
Götze 21 (0pen) goals, 12 assists = directly part of 33 goals
James 19 (3pen) goals, 14 assists = directly part of 33 goals
Suarez 16 (0pen) goals, 16 assists = directly part of 32 goals (not shortlisted)
Robben 17 (2pen) goals, 14 assists = directly part of 31 goals

Costa 24 (2pen) goals, 3 assists = directly part of 27 goals
Hazard 12 (6pen) goals, 10 assists = directly part of 22 goals

Iniesta 3 (0pen) goals, 11 assists = directly part of 14 goals Laughing

Defenders

Lahm
Mascherano
Ramos

Goalies

Neuer
Courtois

Bankz wrote:Just wondering why this guy isn't adding games played by these players..
Harmonica wrote:whoscored Ballon d'Or 2014 http://www.whoscored.com/Articles/mrppvmrsl0ymemdxiyk9-w/Show/Player-Focus-The-Ballon-dWhoScored-2014

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well, now we know why.. Messi made 43 appearances, Ronaldo only 34 Laughing

If it was the other way I round I bet he would have made it known to us Laughing
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Post by Curtinho Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:27 pm

I wonder what will happen when Ronaldo wins the next two ballon d'ors. I wonder if he will have to console little Messi again:

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It's ok. All will be well.
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Post by zigra Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:29 pm

Why not include every official game they played? If I got the numbers right:
Messi played 49 official games (CdR 6|WC 7|CL 7|Liga 29) in 2014 so far.
Ronaldo played 43 official games (CdR 6|WC 3|CL 9|Liga 22|ECQ 1|SC 1|USC 1) in 2014 so far.

Btw I have Messi at 40+20 and Ronaldo at 47+11.
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Post by zigra Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:32 pm

Btw stats like that matter *bleep* all. At the end of the day football is a cup game. The wc is a cup, the cl is a cup, the ec is a cup. The biggest tournaments there are are cups and in a cup it doesn't matter if you win top scorer or stuff like that. Only thing that matters is being the main player in the big games. General stats are nice to have and if I'd like to know which player I want to buy I'd rather use them but to judge a players' year I wouldn't use them. You can score 100 goals - if you fail in the biggest games you still failed that season.
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Post by Harmonica Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:37 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:
well, now we know why.. Messi made 43 appearances, Ronaldo only 34 Laughing

If it was the other way I round I bet he would have made it known to us Laughing
It doesn't matter how much you play, player who plays is better than player who doesn't. It's about overall output of the year, that's why Cronaldo won it last season. Because he could play more than injured Messi.
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Post by Curtinho Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:46 pm

Haha...he was better than Messi last year.

Even Robben is better than Messi this year.
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Post by Harmonica Thu Oct 30, 2014 7:51 pm

2014 (30.10) in official games

Messi 43 (6pen) goals, 25 assists = directly part of 68 goals
Cronaldo 49 (10pen) goals, 12 assists = directly part of 61 goals

Benzema 28 (1pen) goals, 19 assists = directly part of 47 goals
Bale 21 (0pen) goals, 19 assists = directly part of 40 goals

Zlatan 27 (4pen) goals, 11 assists = directly part of 38 goals
Müller 24 (6pen) goals, 14 assists = directly part of 38 goals
Di Maria 10 (0pen) goals, 26 assists = directly part of 36 goals
Neymar 28 (0pen) goals, 7 assists = directly part of 35 goals
Götze 21 (0pen) goals, 12 assists = directly part of 33 goals
James 19 (3pen) goals, 14 assists = directly part of 33 goals
Suarez 16 (0pen) goals, 16 assists = directly part of 32 goals (not shortlisted)
Robben 17 (2pen) goals, 14 assists = directly part of 31 goals

Costa 24 (2pen) goals, 3 assists = directly part of 27 goals
Toure 15 (5pen) goals, 8 assists = directly part of 23 goals
Hazard 12 (6pen) goals, 10 assists = directly part of 22 goals
Pobga 8 (0pen) goals, 12 assists = directly part of 20 goals

Kroos 6 (0pen) goals, 10 assists = directly part of 16 goals
Iniesta 3 (0pen) goals, 11 assists = directly part of 14 goals
Schweinsteiger 6 (0pen) goals, 4 assists = directly part of 10 goals

Defenders

Lahm
Mascherano
Ramos

Goalies

Neuer
Courtois
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Post by terrance511 Thu Oct 30, 2014 9:06 pm

http://espn.go.com/sportsnation/post/_/id/11791587/fifa-ballon-dor-candidates

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Post by Be/\/ceCALI Fri Oct 31, 2014 2:21 am

Give the award to Zlatan or Robben and it would be a
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The constant Messi/Ronaldo BS is annoying.
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Post by Forza Fri Oct 31, 2014 4:18 am

One thing is clear, this is the return of the undisputed worst thread in GL.
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Post by LeVersacci Fri Oct 31, 2014 11:21 am

I don't understand how people care so much about this award lmao.

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Post by Curtinho Fri Oct 31, 2014 1:25 pm

Why do people find it annoying that it's always Messi or Ronaldo? I know it's hard to appreciate because they've been around for a while, but they are arguably the two best players of all time and playing out their primes before our eyes. The media shoves them down our throats, yes, but that's because of how ridiculous what they are doing is. Nobody else is close to them.
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Post by rwo power Fri Oct 31, 2014 1:39 pm

Really? What about Philipp Lahm who excels as LB, RB, DM, CM or whatever position he is thrown in bar goalkeeper? Only because he doesn't score goals, his playing intelligence isn't worth anything?
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Post by Zealous Fri Oct 31, 2014 2:12 pm

Philipp Lahm is a boring player who will be forgotten very quickly though, at no point was he ever the best player in the world. He's was never even the best player on his team.

Much much much better players than him have not won the Balon D'Or lol.
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Post by Forza Fri Oct 31, 2014 2:24 pm

As I said, worst thread on GL.
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Post by Freeza Fri Oct 31, 2014 2:26 pm

Forza wrote:As I said, worst thread on GL.


It isn't even as good as that tbh.
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