El Clasico - Real Madrid Vs Barcelona[25/10/14] - Post Match Discussion

halamadrid2 wrote:

looking for excuses

im converted

What i thought key feature of the game was enrique playing Neymar-Messi-Suarez.

Suarez didnt track back, period. For all the talk about being a hard working player, he has no experience tracking a full back closer to his goal and he never tracked Marcelo who bombarded their left side. I dont think superstar like suarez is going to track back like pedro for example.

Messi initially pressed and man marked Tony kroos but after 30 minute or so he started walking..second half was him just standing.

Neymar with his half hearted tracking back. He clearly dont like tracking back/off the ball works and even though he does press really good i dont see the same initiation of tracking the full back into his own half.

Lets stop all these pressing excuses, barca lost fair and square, end of. Such an embarasing performance from the squad as a whole..it's only in our (barca) threads that you see words like pressing for about 58462 times like its some new kind of mojo..we've won big games before without people giving a shit bout pressing and with huge margins too..how many high profile players press the ball actively for 90mins? This isn't mous team where everybody needs to be centre defenders ffs..barca are too talented to not win a game without pressing..while pressing is foundamental in todays game, pls lets not act like pressing is the new sliced bread..or do we think we actually wanted the record more than messi himself? Fine he was majorly sub-par today but then again, thats football, sometimes it comes off sometimes it doesn't.we dont have to make a scapegoat all the time.so, pls lets give messi a break, as not everything is about messi..afterall barca this season has basically been all about neymar and messi saving our asses every and i mean EVERY *bleeping* week with all they've got,(neymar himself has 8 goals from his last 9 shots on target). ..congrats to deserved winners madrid..

You can win without pressing I agree but if you're not going to then you have two options.

A) Make sure you track back and keep your team's defensive shape.

B) If you're not tracking back punish the opposing player for pushing up by scoring a goal.

Neymar did A) but as a result was always too deep when he got the ball.

Suarez assumed he could get away with not doing A) and hoped B would work out. Except Marcelo pushed up anyway and punished Barca for not tracking him.

Messi was pressing at first but then faded away completely.

All in all it was a very tame display from the front three.

Bankz wrote:Lets stop all these pressing excuses, barca lost fair and square, end of. Such an embarasing performance from the squad as a whole..it's only in our (barca) threads that you see words like pressing for about 58462 times like its some new kind of mojo..we've won big games before without people giving a shit bout pressing and with huge margins too..how many high profile players press the ball actively for 90mins? This isn't mous team where everybody needs to be centre defenders ffs..barca are too talented to not win a game without pressing..while pressing is foundamental in todays game, pls lets not act like pressing is the new sliced bread..or do we think we actually wanted the record more than messi himself? Fine he was majorly sub-par today but then again, thats football, sometimes it comes off sometimes it doesn't.we dont have to make a scapegoat all the time.so, pls lets give messi a break, as not everything is about messi..afterall barca this season has basically been all about neymar and messi saving our asses every and i mean EVERY *bleeping* week with all they've got,(neymar himself has 8 goals from his last 9 shots on target). ..congrats to deserved winners madrid..

I'm pretty sure Barca dominated in the last few years BECAUSE of the pressing. They pressed the opponents like crazy, there inhumane pressing is what started all these silly HGH rumors, and what influenced other teams in Europe to try and replicate the system.

I'm not saying you have to press ti win though, but if you didn't, you have to atleast track back, or be compacted at the back.

IMO that 2011 season killed their legs.

Valkyrja wrote:

halamadrid2 wrote:

looking for excuses

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL!!

Its been clear that Messi has physical issues for months now, I dont think its a matter of him being lazy, its just he doesnt have the energy to do it anymore.

BarcaLearning wrote:Its been clear that Messi has HGH issues for months now, I dont think its a matter of him being lazy, its just he doesnt have the HGH to do it anymore.

Muscle and joint fatigue are a well known side effect of HGH use.

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