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Post by Bankz Wed Jan 21, 2015 4:35 pm

Guti talking out of his arse as per usual.
Benzema is a top 10 player in the world and a top 10 talented player on planet. End of.

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Post by McAgger Wed Jan 21, 2015 5:17 pm

What's up with the reports that Madrid have set a price of 38m on Benz?

Obviously can't be any truth to them.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Wed Jan 21, 2015 5:20 pm

are those reports coming from some rag english newspaper trying to sell rumours to liverpool fan? there is your explanation
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Post by halamadrid2 Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:11 pm

Guti decides to criticise Benzema when he is actually playing great rofl

No wonder he was overly inconsistent, must've had his own definition of playing good
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:12 pm

read the article hala, that's not what most of us would consider criticism
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Post by RealGunner Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:15 pm

He was praising him but the headline was such click bait Laughing
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Post by sportsczy Wed Jan 21, 2015 9:58 pm

He's asking Benz to be more selfish... which would be a disaster for the team. We already have CR and Bale doing their solo stuff. Can you imagine if Benz did it too Laughing

My only thing is that they should pass it to Benz as often as they can when he's dezoning... he's going to pass the ball, so i don't see why you wouldn't. When they pass it Bale or CR outside of the box, i know that 99% of the time it's going to be a turnover or a shot lol.
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Post by Socur Toxanarosa Mon Jan 26, 2015 1:49 am

Bankz wrote:Guti talking out of his arse as per usual.
Benzema is a top 10 player in the world and a top 10 talented player on planet. End of.


CR7, Bale, Messi, Neymar, Suárez, Aguero, Hazard, Fábregas, Iniesta, Robben, Ribery, Schweinsteiger, Kroos, Reus, Yaya Toure...

I could make a much bigger list, but that's enough to prove how wrong you are.
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Post by LeBéninois Mon Jan 26, 2015 2:05 am

Socur Toxanarosa wrote:
Bankz wrote:Guti talking out of his arse as per usual.
Benzema is a top 10 player in the world and a top 10 talented player on planet. End of.


CR7, Bale, Messi, Neymar, Suárez, Aguero, Hazard, Fábregas, Iniesta, Robben, Ribery, Schweinsteiger, Kroos, Reus, Yaya Toure...

I could make a much bigger list, but that's enough to prove how wrong you are.

I don't about top 10 or top X but Bemzema is WC and amongst the best players in the world. Right now I'd choose him ahead of Bale, Ribery, Hazard and Reus ( Not saying these players are not elite ) . Now I wouldn't compare Benzema and midfielders because they don't have the same role.
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Post by FennecFox7 Mon Jan 26, 2015 4:49 am

Socur Toxanarosa wrote:
Bankz wrote:Guti talking out of his arse as per usual.
Benzema is a top 10 player in the world and a top 10 talented player on planet. End of.


CR7, Bale, Messi, Neymar, Suárez, Aguero, Hazard, Fábregas, Iniesta, Robben, Ribery, Schweinsteiger, Kroos, Reus, Yaya Toure...

I could make a much bigger list, but that's enough to prove how wrong you are.


Did you just mention the flop suarez, hazard, fabregas, schweini,can't defend yaya, and *bleep* reus whos been injured for half the time of his career??

Also, benzema shits all over bale. ask any madrid fan

Matter of fact, pretty much any footballer with a brain shits on bale
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Post by farfan Mon Jan 26, 2015 7:55 am

Socur Toxanarosa wrote:
Bankz wrote:Guti talking out of his arse as per usual.
Benzema is a top 10 player in the world and a top 10 talented player on planet. End of.


CR7, Bale, Messi, Neymar, Suárez, Aguero, Hazard, Fábregas, Iniesta, Robben, Ribery, Schweinsteiger, Kroos, Reus, Yaya Toure...

I could make a much bigger list, but that's enough to prove how wrong you are.



you lost me at " Bale " .

how about watching some football first before talking about it in a forum ?
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Post by Bankz Mon Jan 26, 2015 8:48 am

Bale? *facepalm*, hazard? Yaya toure? Fabregas? Sweini? Iniesta currently? Ribbery? Reus? LoL.
In that list only messi, cr7, neymar, aguero, robben, suarez, add in ibra are better and more talented than benz on planet right now.
I could even make a case of benz over suarez tbh, as current suarez has basically being benzemas situation for 5 years now and look what he (suarez) is like now.
People dont realize what being a clubs go-to player can do for a players confidence, morale and mentality & vice-vasa.
To actually think u said u could make a bigger list.
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Post by Rev Mon Jan 26, 2015 9:39 am

That list is missing someone:
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Guy on the left anyone? :coffee:
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Post by Bankz Mon Jan 26, 2015 11:13 am

Sanchez, while being impressive, is not better than benzema. This list contains people that are better and more talented at same time, and thats bout it. sanchez doesn't belong there.
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Post by Katy Perry Mon Jan 26, 2015 11:41 am

Bankz wrote:Bale? *facepalm*, hazard? Yaya toure? Fabregas? Sweini? Iniesta currently? Ribbery? Reus? LoL.
In that list only messi, cr7, neymar, aguero, robben, suarez, add in ibra are better and more talented than benz on planet right now.
I could even make a case of benz over suarez tbh, as current suarez has basically being benzemas situation for 5 years now and look what he (suarez) is like now.
People dont realize what being a clubs go-to player can do for a players confidence, morale and mentality & vice-vasa.
To actually think u said u could make a bigger list.

Well, there's no inconfutable way to determinate whether a player is better than another, it's all about subjectivity. However, the players Socur Toxanarosa listed are all rated higher than Benzema in FIFA. Excuse me if I trust football experts who are paid to watch these players and rate them's opinion more than yours.
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Post by Bankz Mon Jan 26, 2015 12:00 pm

Fifa 15.*laughing*
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Post by Valkyrja Mon Jan 26, 2015 12:47 pm

Isco has 86 dribbling in Fifa 15. Laughing
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Post by Socur Toxanarosa Mon Jan 26, 2015 4:36 pm

Bankz wrote:Bale? *facepalm*, hazard? Yaya toure? Fabregas? Sweini? Iniesta currently? Ribbery? Reus? LoL.
In that list only messi, cr7, neymar, aguero, robben, suarez, add in ibra are better and more talented than benz on planet right now.
I could even make a case of benz over suarez tbh, as current suarez has basically being benzemas situation for 5 years now and look what he (suarez) is like now.
People dont realize what being a clubs go-to player can do for a players confidence, morale and mentality & vice-vasa.
To actually think u said u could make a bigger list.


Pogba, Ibrahimovic, Rooney, Lewandowski, Muller without thinking too much Wink
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Post by Valkyrja Mon Jan 26, 2015 4:38 pm

Benzema is more gifted than Suarez. About being better I don't know, we haven't seen Benz as the main man yet like the Uruguayan in 'Pool and we haven't seen enough of Suarez playing second fiddle like the Frenchman has been doing for years now.
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Post by Curtinho Mon Jan 26, 2015 4:51 pm

I would rather have Suarez on my team than Benzema. Even if their talent levels are similar, Suarez has an insatiable work ethic and drive to win that Benzema doesn't have. Bring up statistics all you want but the eye test will tell you this.

That said Benzema is definitely a top class player and performer. I would take him over most strikers and players in the world. It's kind of pointless to try and argue specific names after a point because once you get into the second or third tier after the Ronaldo/Messi tier there are so many players of a similar level that it all comes down to personal preference.

I would definitely take Ronaldo, Robben, Suarez, Messi, Neymar, Aguero, Ribery and Hazard just as attack minded players over him though. Bale most likely also though he hasn't had a great season. Then there are guys like Reus, Sanchez, Lewandowski, Rodriguez, Costa, etc. that are certainly up there with him.
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Post by chad4401 Tue Jan 27, 2015 1:00 am

benzema doesn't have the drive to win or work ethic? rofl, this forum never stops with bs, again hype is dictating levels, el cujo you watched the clasico? if you did stop writing rubbish
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Post by Katy Perry Tue Jan 27, 2015 1:07 am

chad4401 wrote:benzema doesn't have the drive to win or work ethic? rofl, this forum never stops with bs, again hype is dictating levels, el cujo you watched the clasico? if you did stop writing rubbish

chad, which aspects of Benzema's game you're not satisfied with and could/should improve?
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Post by chad4401 Tue Jan 27, 2015 1:26 am

the only problem i have with benzema is that he shoots too safe, needs to blast the ball more his technique is great so he is capable(lyon days), he is slowly returning to the player he was before, since he is finally comfortable in the team
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Post by Valkyrja Tue Jan 27, 2015 1:30 am

If I were to choose one of Suarez and Benzema to build a team around, I would also go for the Uruguayan. As a complementary player the Frenchman is superior.
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Post by FennecFox7 Tue Jan 27, 2015 1:36 am

El Cujo wrote:I would rather have Suarez on my team than Benzema. Even if their talent levels are similar, Suarez has an insatiable work ethic and drive to win that Benzema doesn't have. Bring up statistics all you want but the eye test will tell you this.

That said Benzema is definitely a top class player and performer. I would take him over most strikers and players in the world. It's kind of pointless to try and argue specific names after a point because once you get into the second or third tier after the Ronaldo/Messi tier there are so many players of a similar level that it all comes down to personal preference.

I would definitely take Ronaldo, Robben, Suarez, Messi, Neymar, Aguero, Ribery and Hazard just as attack minded players over him though. Bale most likely also though he hasn't had a great season. Then there are guys like Reus, Sanchez, Lewandowski, Rodriguez, Costa, etc. that are certainly up there with him.


I'm sorry but you are just spewing out bs and you know it. First you say benzema isn't comparable to any of these players

THEN, you say you can't use stats to compare them. wtf? if you want to talk about aesthetically pleasing styles, benzema is right up there with them..
Then you take it back and slowly bring him up. I don't understand. Most of these players can't lick benzemas boots. Like, dude, alexis sanchez?
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Post by chad4401 Tue Jan 27, 2015 2:34 am

Valkyrja wrote:If I were to choose one of Suarez and Benzema to build a team around, I would also go for the Uruguayan. As a complementary player the Frenchman is superior.  


smh why are you so ignorant? benzema is not a complementary player, he is just an immense footballer,easily destroys bale but people act like he is a one man wrecking machine rofl

you think anybody can do what he does, if they felt like it? the guy was destroying cl as the main guy as a kid ffs, and he sure as hell showed up in the WC a lot more than cr ever did

its amazing that you and a lot of others watch him every week, and still can't gauge his abilities without boxing him in some stupid category, benzema plays as hard as anybody and as just as much desire to win as well, he doesn't need to scream like a girl every 10 seconds for fans to see that he cares

how could you not build a team around a guy who shows up in big games and truly plays for his teammates, your kidding yourself if you think benzema can't score off 5 shots a game every week with his abilities
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