CL R16: Shakhtar Donetsk vs FC Bayern München

RealGunner wrote:Higuain is the only reason why Messi didn't win the WC.

Argentina reached the final by accident FFS. They couldn't win Iran legitly...

jibers wrote:That defensive record has more to do with Bayerns possession and Neuer sweeping up to be honest but I get your point.

You know what I really find funny is that people don't rate Manuel Neuer, "because be plays behind the best defense evar". And now people don't rate the best defense evar because they have Manuel Neuer to clean up behind them?

People, please make up your mind! (Although actually I prefer the idea of Manuel Neuer being the bestest evar who bails out Bayern and Germany all the time )

salmano9 wrote:Argentina reached the final by accident FFS. They couldn't win Iran legitly...

They were pretty close to losing out against Switzerland, too.

Meh, Germany almost got done in by Algeria, and only drew Ghana, while Brazil got the ref to carry them through the early matches. Knockouts are hardly ever all that fair.

guest_07 wrote:

BarrileteCosmico wrote:

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Luckily Argentina for some baffling reason took Lavezzi off because they were getting constant joy with the whole back 4 out of place.

Worse call than taking Riquelme off in 2006...

are you sure?

take out riquelme in that 2006 qf before full time vs germany is equal to:
1) take out maradona in 1986 wc qf vs england
2) take out kempes in 1978 wc final vs holland
3) take out messi in 2010 cl qf vs arsenal at camp nou

Yes I'm sure. Lavezzi was by far our most dangerous player the entire first half in a WC final. Supposedly he asked Sabella to take him off at HT but I don't believe this, because he had 15 minutes of rest. If he was so tired he should have played until the 60th mark or before being subbed out. Meanwhile Aguero came in who was clearly not match fit and unable to run. We were playing with a player less the rest of the match.

While the Riquelme sub was bad, it was in a circumstance where we were already winning and we were trying to park the bus, which while not the correct call at least has some rationale in it (Riquelme's weak point has always been defensive contribution). Not in the highest stage when we were trying to chase the game.

salmano9 wrote:

RealGunner wrote:Higuain is the only reason why Messi didn't win the WC.

Argentina reached the final by accident FFS. They couldn't win Iran legitly...

are you talking about the team that were bus parking and playing for draw the first 2 games in a hope that they would miraculously win the final game and move next round???

BarrileteCosmico wrote:

guest_07 wrote:

BarrileteCosmico wrote:
Worse call than taking Riquelme off in 2006...

are you sure?

take out riquelme in that 2006 qf before full time vs germany is equal to:
1) take out maradona in 1986 wc qf vs england
2) take out kempes in 1978 wc final vs holland
3) take out messi in 2010 cl qf vs arsenal at camp nou

Yes I'm sure. Lavezzi was by far our most dangerous player the entire first half in a WC final. Supposedly he asked Sabella to take him off at HT but I don't believe this, because he had 15 minutes of rest. If he was so tired he should have played until the 60th mark or before being subbed out. Meanwhile Aguero came in who was clearly not match fit and unable to run. We were playing with a player less the rest of the match.

While the Riquelme sub was bad, it was in a circumstance where we were already winning and we were trying to park the bus, which while not the correct call at least has some rationale in it (Riquelme's weak point has always been defensive contribution). Not in the highest stage when we were trying to chase the game.

want to play defensive when had a 1-0 lead vs germany as host & argentina was not italy, i call that as a suicide attempt

I'm not saying it was a good call, only that benching Lavezzi was the worse call.

neuro11 wrote:

salmano9 wrote:

RealGunner wrote:Higuain is the only reason why Messi didn't win the WC.

Argentina reached the final by accident FFS. They couldn't win Iran legitly...

are you talking about the team that were bus parking and playing for draw the first 2 games in a hope that they would miraculously win the final game and move next round???

Chelsea style Thats a tactic, to park the bus... Thats what most asian teams would do tbh. And as rwo said, they almost lost to the swiss... Holland deserved to be in the final, cuz they had the most convincing results and play. Germany were of course, a power horse.

Don't know if it's just one of those days, but all of a sudden I'm firmly convinced that we will go out to Shakhtar next week because my opening post was too long and wannabe witty.

Discuss.

You can't undo the GL jinx that easily Hansen

I didn't make any post about Borussia M'gladbach vs Sevilla in the EL and they went out, so I wouldn't say a long OP needs to be a bad omen.

lmao, Bayern are going to roflstomp Shakhtar, it'll be a routine 5-0 win

I've got a very bad feeling abut this. And sadly my feelings about Bayern games tend to be right.

please go Hapless   . Bayern going to put atleast 3 past Shakhtar

Stop it.

Shakhtar is no Rayo Vallecano, you know, we've shown them a way through this and they know what to do now.

I'm nervous as hell.

Shakhtar got this.

Neuer Rafinha Boateng Badstuber Schweinsteiger Alaba Robben Götze Ribery Müller Lewandowski pls.

No funny business ffs.

You're going to play like 3 fullbacks at the back again, then have Mitchel Weiser be the lone striker while Pep experiments with a 3-7-1 system without a goalkeeper, probably.

That idiot will make anything challenging. Isn't things being exciting fun?

Hapless_Hans wrote:I've got a very bad feeling abut this. And sadly my feelings about Bayern games tend to be right.

your feelings about Bayern tend to be right ?

just like they were very right last year when you predicted that Bayern would steamroll Real ?

It'll be a white-wash, similar to the tie against Basel a couple of years ago. Expecting 7 goals at the minimum.

farfan wrote:

Hapless_Hans wrote:I've got a very bad feeling abut this. And sadly my feelings about Bayern games tend to be right.

your feelings about Bayern tend to be right ?

just like they were very right last year when you predicted that Bayern would steamroll Real ?

then I was overcompensating for the bad feeling I had by trying over the top trash talk.

If we're not careful we will end up losing this one, or even score drawing

Exactly. Biggest game of the season.

easy win. 4:0 at half time

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Lahm surprisingly part of the squad.
Has only been training for 2 days after 4 months out

ffs Pep I said NO FUNNY BUSINESS