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Re: Liverpool v Arsenal

Post by Don't call me James on Fri Dec 19, 2014 3:42 pm

I actually enjoyed the last 2 matches a lot with the new formation. Even though it was hard to take the loss against United, we created like 10 chances that should have been goals. The Bournemouth match was also enjoyable.

So yeah if we're shit, it's better if at least we're enjoyable.

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Post by Art Morte on Fri Dec 19, 2014 3:51 pm

I don't think it's only the formation, to be honest & now that we're talking about it, a lot has to do with Coutinho, Lallana and Sterling actually playing together in attack. That has hardly happened at all this season apart from the last couple of games. Yet that trio is our most creative one. Even if we adjust the formation, I think those three should be playing together quite a lot.

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Post by Don't call me James on Fri Dec 19, 2014 3:56 pm

I agree with that. Getting Coutinho, Lallana, Markovic and Sterling in the same team (our 4 most creative players) is a no brainer when we've obviously not been doing well attacking wise.

I'm glad Rodgers isn't going with Lambert and Borini (neither should be Liverpool players) no matter how injured every other ST at club is. They are uber shit, I don't have time for them. Also glad that Balotelli isn't being played as a lone striker anymore. He's so very frustrating up there by himself. Sterling has really been stellar up there by himself irregardless of the finishing.


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Post by Helmer on Fri Dec 19, 2014 3:59 pm

Agrred Art, if Studge comes back, it would be sad to see Lallana go to bench, instead I would drop one of our CMs and play Lallana there

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Re: Liverpool v Arsenal

Post by Art Morte on Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:00 pm

I'm not totally happy about Sterling playing now striker, too, I just feel we're going to burn him out before the end of the season. Arguably it's mostly his good movement that he provides in that striker position and Borini could do that, too. Probably would have buried on of those chances against the Mancs as well.

Let's put it this way that if Sterling starts all of our remaining games of the year as the striker, I'll be a little disappointed, because we could and should rest him a bit.
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Re: Liverpool v Arsenal

Post by Art Morte on Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:01 pm

HEIL MEIN REDS wrote:Agrred Art, if Studge comes back, it would be sad to see Lallana go to bench, instead I would drop one of our CMs and play Lallana there


Yeah. I think either of Lallana or Coutinho could do very well in midfield, too.
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Re: Liverpool v Arsenal

Post by Don't call me James on Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:03 pm

Allen should be the one benched obviously. Or even Stevie. But who are we kidding, as if that is going to happen.

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Re: Liverpool v Arsenal

Post by Helmer on Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:04 pm

If Sterling scores in this game, imo BR would think twice before not playing in central role, as a striker or as a player behind the striker

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Re: Liverpool v Arsenal

Post by sportsczy on Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:05 pm

You sound like me during some OM years Laughing I literally kept thinking: If we're going to be shit, at least try and play good football. I'd rather lose 5-2 than 3-0 Laughing

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Re: Liverpool v Arsenal

Post by Don't call me James on Fri Dec 19, 2014 4:48 pm

Watched Brendan's presser and Jones will definitely start Sad Brendan was really annoyed with something, his answers were very short and the whole thing lasted like 5 minutes.




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Re: Liverpool v Arsenal

Post by Helmer on Fri Dec 19, 2014 5:01 pm

http://www.lfc.vn/presser-matchday/rodgers-pre-arsenal-presser-s15-w17/

Laughing if we lose tomorrow !!

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Re: Liverpool v Arsenal

Post by Curtinho on Fri Dec 19, 2014 5:17 pm

Rodgers really did seem annoyed at the beginning of the presser but calmed down a bit as it went on.

I think he might be getting just a bit tired of having to talk about Balotelli every single day whether he's done something or not. There's also a lot of pressure heading into this match, and the Sterling contract negotiations probably weigh on him as well.

For his sake, and the season, I hope that we come out hard and fast against Arsenal. The 3-4-3 supports Rodgers' philosophy quite well and with any combination of Lallana/Markovic/Coutinho/Sterling we're going to create scoring chances.

As far as how sound the tactic is...I think it could actually work in our favour. With some players who have tremendous work rate on the flanks (like Henderson, Moreno, Markovic, Sterling if necessary, Can, etc.) having the middle clogged up with 7 players and a dynamic striker playing offence first can still be doable while trying to mask the deficiencies at the back. The key to this though will be to actually be threatening up front and converting on chances.


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Re: Liverpool v Arsenal

Post by Art Morte on Fri Dec 19, 2014 5:41 pm

Jones starting is just despair. He can have a good game, but Mignolet is better. Still, it's not the goalkeeper decision that worries me, it's the outfield choices.
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Re: Liverpool v Arsenal

Post by Nishankly on Fri Dec 19, 2014 8:24 pm

The difference in the game last season.

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Re: Liverpool v Arsenal

Post by Red Alert on Sat Dec 20, 2014 1:15 am

Can't see us winning with 3 at the back.

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Re: Liverpool v Arsenal

Post by Red Alert on Sat Dec 20, 2014 1:25 am

Markovic playing one good game against Bournemouth and Rodgers saying he's already on Downing's level. drunken drunken drunken

(seriously what a joke, already playing like a "20m" player rofl)

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Re: Liverpool v Arsenal

Post by Art Morte on Sat Dec 20, 2014 11:39 am

Well, nothing wrong with giving the kid some encouragement, he has looked like he needs it.

If we stick with the 3-4-3, this will kind of be its first true test, so should be interesting.
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Re: Liverpool v Arsenal

Post by Helmer on Sun Dec 21, 2014 12:17 pm

I am getting a feeling that Arsenal are cowards in the bog games and we should just press them to make their life difficult and they will just start folding. Only Sanchez is the worry because he is really a great player. We need to frustrate him somehow, I dont know f**** foul him all the time, dont let him get the ball at all. We need to score first and then kill them on counter.

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Re: Liverpool v Arsenal

Post by Helmer on Sun Dec 21, 2014 12:25 pm

looks like this will be our team:

Jones
Kolo Skrtel Sakho
Henderson Lucas Gerrard Markovic
Lallana Couthino
Sterling

Sakho for Lovren, well that is the first good sign !!!

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Post by Art Morte on Sun Dec 21, 2014 12:36 pm

^ Lovren apparently might have a groin injury, so we'll see how permanent that would be. Anyway, definitely want to see Sakho getting games again.

First and foremost I hope Allen doesn't start, but neither am I happy with a Gerrard - Lucas midfield. The silver lining today with that partnership would be that neither Arsenal will have that mobile a midfield since they're missing Wilshere and Ramsey.

Also, if you told me at the start of the season that Henderson and Markovic will be starting as wing-backs some time this season, well, I wouldn't have taken you seriously. Anyway, let's see what the confirmed XI will be and how they'll perform.

Really should win this, the table's looking butt-ugly for us without points today.
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Re: Liverpool v Arsenal

Post by iftikhar on Sun Dec 21, 2014 1:20 pm

HEIL MEIN REDS wrote:looks like this will be our team:

Jones
Kolo Skrtel Sakho
Henderson Lucas Gerrard Markovic
Lallana Couthino
Sterling

Sakho for Lovren, well that is the first good sign !!!
I would give 9/10 for this team. BUT why can't Rodgers drop Lucas/Gerrard and play Moreno!!!
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Re: Liverpool v Arsenal

Post by Don't call me James on Sun Dec 21, 2014 3:30 pm

I guess no Allen, Lovren, and Johnson (even though the latter two is down to injuries) is a great positive.

Would have hoped to see Jones, Gerrard, and Hendo benched as well for Migs, Can, and Manquillo but can't ask for too much change from Brendan.

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Re: Liverpool v Arsenal

Post by Art Morte on Sun Dec 21, 2014 3:34 pm

Allen not playing is great, but I can't agree of that Gerrard - Lucas CM pair. That's the definition of a pedestrian pace midfield. But I'm hopeful our forward trio plus attack-minded-for-wing-backs wing backs will give plenty of trouble to Arsenal.

But at the same time I'm worried that this 3-4-3 will expose our defense against Arsenal's very potent forward line. Like I said earlier, this is the first true test of this 3-4-3.
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Post by Don't call me James on Sun Dec 21, 2014 3:43 pm

Gerrard again playing 20million times a week. rofl

Seriously Rodgers is a *bleep* retard. Buys a ton of scrubs n the name of squad depth and never uses the so called depth regardless of having a 40 year old washed up player who is a liability playing 3 matches every week.

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Re: Liverpool v Arsenal

Post by Curtinho on Sun Dec 21, 2014 4:44 pm

lol ok

We've been absolutely dominant so far today only missing that final ball. Flamini should be off. Gerrard has been playing great. Stop complaining about every little thing.

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Re: Liverpool v Arsenal

Post by Don't call me James on Sun Dec 21, 2014 4:49 pm

Goddamit, set piece *bleep* Mad

Seriously we absolutely should win this. They are so lucky. Skrtel :facepalm: How do you get beat by Debuchy in heading duel. There's like 3 inches between them.

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