Re: Boxing thread - Part 2

[Great Leader Sprucenuce]

I mean him and Cotto is usually a good fight, but that's starting to enter Pacquaio-Marquez territory

[izzy]

He's the only guy I'd want to see him fight.

If Pac wants a rematch, then Floyd should put some embarrassing terms and conditions for that fight to happen.

[RealGunner]

Super Middleweight is really good i agree, also RG who can he fight lol?

Might as well have another one sided rematch tbh, there's no one left of any note unless you do a catch weight of some kind with a heavier guy.

No idea tbh. Rematch sounds good because of the money.

But Izzy is right about Cotto. He could give Floyd a scare.

And I'll push Khan again as a personal agenda lol.

[RealGunner]

ffs

[Great Leader Sprucenuce]

Broner

[Freeza]

Broner is the GOAT tbh

[El Gunner]

I don't understand the running and holding complaints either tbh. He didn't really run much at all, he stood his ground in the centre of the ring slip the shots and counter and would all night long was in complete control. The holding happened quite a bit for the first 3 or 4 rounds but after that not really.

+1

[El Gunner]

Floyd says he's giving 50m each to his children

BRB filing for adoption.

Ey! I was first in line remember

[Great Leader Sprucenuce]

I'm prepared to wait for that money

[Casciavit]

Watched the match. For the record, the extent of my boxing knowledge is watching Ali's documentaries and a lot of his matches. So I'm not exactly the most knowledgeable.

Holy hell, Mayweather put on a classic. The way he controlled the space between him and Pacman. Pacquiao looked lost after the 2nd round it seemed like his strategy was thrown out of the window.

And for me that's true greatness. Make other world class opponents look like fodder. I prefer the charismatic heavyweights of the past, but Mayweather put on a technical classic here.

How anyone could say Pacquiao should have won is beyond me. I guess since he was more aggressive it gives the illusion that he did better, but really Mayweather was always 2 steps ahead of him if not 3.

[The Franchise]

This fight really made me notice how many people dont know anything about boxing

I wont bother lecuturing on it, because its obviously gonna fall on deaf ears.

I gave Pacman 3 rounds, 2 he legit won and another 2 I could argue either way but ill split the difference and say 3 rounds. The rest was Floyd and it was easy for him, not even a top 5 toughest fight for him.

This is an I told you so moment, not from me, but from people like his dad who told everyone all around Manny isnt in his league..and he isnt.

Only Manny fans think in a fight you get hit twice as much you can win.

All this talk of running and holding is laughable. Floyd hits and holds in every fight, he even did it less in this fight than many of his others. And he moved less than the Maidana fight, he took 2 steps back when he did go back, but for the lion share of the fight he was parking in the middle of the ring beating Manny to the punch.

Easy work, like many of us already knew it would be.

[jibers]

This fight really made me notice how many people dont know anything about boxing

I wont bother lecuturing on it, because its obviously gonna fall on deaf ears.

I gave Pacman 3 rounds, 2 he legit won and another 2 I could argue either way but ill split the difference and say 3 rounds. The rest was Floyd and it was easy for him, not even a top 5 toughest fight for him.

This is an I told you so moment, not from me, but from people like his dad who told everyone all around Manny isnt in his league..and he isnt.

Only Manny fans think in a fight you get hit twice as much you can win.

All this talk of running and holding is laughable. Floyd hits and holds in every fight, he even did it less in this fight than many of his others. And he moved less than the Maidana fight, he took 2 steps back when he did go back, but for the lion share of the fight he was parking in the middle of the ring beating Manny to the punch.

Easy work, like many of us already knew it would be.

Exactly what I said to my friend. Boxing is the chess game of sports. The difference in ability was even bigger than I anticipated, which was already high enough. I think Pacman wanted to be aggressive but that tag he got in the 1st round created doubt.

[RealGunner]

Who you reckon Floyd will fight as his last Dani?

[izzy]

I've always thought there should be 15 rounds or 4 min rounds. Especially in the Welterweight, Middleweight etc division.

[Freeza]

Who you reckon Floyd will fight as his last Dani?

Broner. In a reading battle.

[The Franchise]

Floyd's best punches, no doubt give opponents problems. He doesnt have 1 punch KO power, but his right straight to the head (and in this fight to the body to some degree) were big problems.

I was disappointed Floyd didnt use the left hook more, he hit him with a ton of jabs and some of them he could have turned them over into hooks but I do think Floyd was even more cautious than usual in punch selection.

Usually he throws the jab to the body and the left hook up top alot, probably that and his right straight are his 3 best punches. He didnt throw the jab downstairs or the hook in respect to Manny's speed I think.

Floyd was aware of Manny's speed, I could see that, he looked more ready to go on the defensive and didnt use his "pull counter" because of it.

This was a fight I think all real fight fans enjoyed, wasnt exciting so to speak but it was a interesting fight. Joe Public obviously clueless and want a pub brawl, they need to go find something less complicated than boxing.

[The Franchise]

Who you reckon Floyd will fight as his last Dani?

No idea.

Maybe Khan, but who goes out fighting Khan? Its so underwhelming.

I dont get why he dont just retire if he isnt going for Marciano's record.

[Great Leader Sprucenuce]

I was just looking at the first thread

So many lulz comments and i have now reminded myself of all the Pacquaio KOed by Marquez memes

[jibers]

Floyd's best punches, no doubt give opponents problems. He doesnt have 1 punch KO power, but his right straight to the head (and in this fight to the body to some degree) were big problems.

I was disappointed Floyd didnt use the left hook more, he hit him with a ton of jabs and some of them he could have turned them over into hooks but I do think Floyd was even more cautious than usual in punch selection.

Usually he throws the jab to the body and the left hook up top alot, probably that and his right straight are his 3 best punches. He didnt throw the jab downstairs or the hook in respect to Manny's speed I think.

Floyd was aware of Manny's speed, I could see that, he looked more ready to go on the defensive and didnt use his "pull counter" because of it.

This was a fight I think all real fight fans enjoyed, wasnt exciting so to speak but it was a interesting fight. Joe Public obviously clueless and want a pub brawl, they need to go find something less complicated than boxing.

Thats why UFC is there brah. 2 drunk rednecks with 3 months 'martial arts' training beating the shit out of each other :lo:

On the hooks I think he was roo cautious about Manny catching him with a left so he used the jab to keep him on the outside. There were 3 moments where Manny was open to a left check hook but Floyd pulled back. For me it was a masterclass. I'm not sure what future generations will think though, that Floyd was either a textbook genius or the field was weak because the gap between him and the rest is bigger than the gap between Messi and Bebe.

[The Franchise]

I dont know.

I mean being undefeated is a big deal in that, Rocky Marciano must be respected because he was never defeated. But that alone wont do much for it when you start comparisons with other great.

Now he has beaten Manny so easily, I think it helps him in the regard your talking about. He beat him so clearly and "everyone" knows it, that you can only conclude he is the best of his time.

I think he has beaten some great fighters, Marquez,Cotto, Oscar, Manny and Mosely are 5 great names. None are Hagler, Hearns or Chavez but hall of famers and he beat all of them convincingly.

Floyd has to be top 3 Welterweight of all time with Sugar Ray Leonard and Robinson.

His resume is surely better than Hearns or Chavez after this. Though both of them would give Floyd as much as he could handle, thats for sure.

[El Gunner]

Who you reckon Floyd will fight as his last Dani?

No idea.

Maybe Khan, but who goes out fighting Khan? Its so underwhelming.

I dont get why he dont just retire if he isnt going for Marciano's record.

well he still has one match left on his contract with Showtime.

Also I agree with Jibers, it was a combonation of Manny's speed and the threat of his left which probably made Floyd cautious about using the left hook.

[M99]

This was a fight I think all real fight fans enjoyed, wasnt exciting so to speak but it was a interesting fight. Joe Public obviously clueless and want a pub brawl, they need to go find something less complicated than boxing.

I don't know about that. Did real fight fans, at least neutrals, enjoy this thoroughly one sided affair? Pac's gameplan was nothing, Mayweather schooled him.

And as for Mayweather's next fight, nope it's not gonna be a rematch. Both sides ruled it out. Could very well be against Khan.

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/boxing/32572073

[dmize]

This fight really made me notice how many people dont know anything about boxing

I wont bother lecuturing on it, because its obviously gonna fall on deaf ears.

I gave Pacman 3 rounds, 2 he legit won and another 2 I could argue either way but ill split the difference and say 3 rounds. The rest was Floyd and it was easy for him, not even a top 5 toughest fight for him.

This is an I told you so moment, not from me, but from people like his dad who told everyone all around Manny isnt in his league..and he isnt.

Only Manny fans think in a fight you get hit twice as much you can win.

All this talk of running and holding is laughable. Floyd hits and holds in every fight, he even did it less in this fight than many of his others. And he moved less than the Maidana fight, he took 2 steps back when he did go back, but for the lion share of the fight he was parking in the middle of the ring beating Manny to the punch.

Easy work, like many of us already knew it would be.

Yup Maidana gave him more of a fight.


Anyways I hear talk of Khan obviously but also Keith Thurman who intrigues me but I don't think he's as ready as Khan.

[Great Leader Sprucenuce]

They say that now M99 but can they really ignore the money involved? not sure tbh.

[RealGunner]

The match became a victim of its own hype lol.

[Tomwin Lannister]

If they want to make 500Mill each for their own pockets they'll agree to a bare knuckle last man standing rematch. Seems the obvious thing to do.

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