The Movie House - Part 4
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Adit wrote:Mad max was dire to me. Lot of action but the movie lacked script and suspense.
My buddies loved it but that's their taste...they love movies with absolute shet scripts .
You've obviously no idea what a script contains or how the development of a thing like that takes place. But keep going. What's wrong with the script?
This prejudice against anything action is so funny. To write a script where you can make actions tell entire stories and not rely on exposition in dialogue is amazing.
This film is one of the rare cases where it's an entirely visual form of storytelling, where nothing would be lost without the sound.
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What do you mean? The movie was complete suspense, I was on edge the entire timeAdit wrote:Mad max was dire to me. Lot of action but the movie lacked script and suspense.
My buddies loved it but that's their taste...they love movies with absolute shet scripts .
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Lacked script and suspense
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I'm on phone so can't type much. What lacked in the script? Story. Why should action and story be mutually exclusive? Why can't we have both.. This is were this movie failed. It had action but don't tell me there was an ounce of suspense or story. Most interesting character on that movie was Furiosa and then that Guitarist... Tom hardy should ask himself what was he doing in that movie.
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I understand why many like movies like that though. That's just not my taste though, I enjoy movies with a story mainly..
If its predictable which most action movies are now days then it gets really boring for me at least.
If its predictable which most action movies are now days then it gets really boring for me at least.
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Adit wrote:I'm on phone so can't type much. What lacked in the script? Story. Why should action and story be mutually exclusive? Why can't we have both.. This is were this movie failed. It had action but don't tell me there was an ounce of suspense or story. Most interesting character on that movie was Furiosa and then that Guitarist... Tom hardy should ask himself what was he doing in that movie.
Before you start throwing around your obviously very wrong complaints. You should get some facts straight. Story and plot are not the same. Story is something that isn't shown on screen at all times. Story is what you can read from actions that are now shown in film, things that are spoken.
There is a lot of subtle elements of story in the film throughout, you just have to intelligent enough to put them together without being forcefed this information.
Little girl example
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- The little girl in Max's vision is great example on story. This isn't a part of the plot what happened before the movie. We get a sense that Mad Max as a character has been unable to save persons multiple times in his past. Which is something that shows throughout the film. It is also the major characteristic in his character.
Mad Max's story overall is that he lost someone close to him. Now that he can see Furiosa and the other women are going in a direction that will not end well for them. He decides to redeem his past short comings by getting them back to the citadel.
Another great element of how George Miller has subtlety incorporated story elements is this
- The many mothers:
- You see here by the way they have mistrust placed in men (when they see Nux and Max) that men has done something awful to them. Most likely the men did this to them in the beginning of the apocalypse
The writing on the wall and Angharad.
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- Another example is how there was written in the vault where the brides were locked "Who killed the world?". This gives a story element that maybe Immortan Joe has had a big say in how the world went to shit. Which Angharad also said more to Nux "Then who killed the world"
There are so many story elements placed throughout the film. You're pretty much confusing Story and Plot with expositional dialogue, which is not the case in this film.
Mad Max has so much story in every image. It trust the viewer to form the story by themselves instead of letting the directer feed it to the viewer with a spoon.
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From what I gathered the plot of Fury Road is just Max helping Furiousa and some other slave women and leading them to safety from the evil guy, and they drive and fight around in the desert mainly.
So maybe that's all Adit felt he got from it?
So maybe that's all Adit felt he got from it?
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El Gunner wrote:From what I gathered the plot of Fury Road is just Max helping Furiousa and some other slave women and leading them to safety from the evil guy, and they drive and fight around in the desert mainly.
So maybe that's all Adit felt he got from it?
Plot =/= story
And if that's how you look at a film I feel sorry for you. All films can be said to be like that unless it only relies on plotheavy storytelling like Gone Girl does.
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Me n my mates were talking about the movie for a few hours at a bar. Felt it was insane but at the same time forgettable. Didn't regret watching the movie though.El Gunner wrote:From what I gathered the plot of Fury Road is just Max helping Furiousa and some other slave women and leading them to safety from the evil guy, and they drive and fight around in the desert mainly.
So maybe that's all Adit felt he got from it?
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ffs need to watch this and inception very soonDon't call me James wrote:Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Don't call me James wrote:Rewatched Inception. My 4th time Masterpiece.
I liked it but it's nowhere near as good as Shutter Island IMO.
Loved Shutter Island.
In fact, going to be re-watching that as well this weekend. I'm on a bit of a DiCaprio marathon. Do this every year.
But I can't say I agree that it's better than Inception. Inception is one of my favorite films of all time. It's extraordinary.
Holiday soon
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A simple plot does not equate to lacking a story. To be fair, you're far from the first or most prominent person to imply or suggest as much; I've seen fairly major reviewers follow that same line. However, a well executed but simple plot can still provide a compelling and engaging story, particularly if it contains strong unique characters who develop and evolve throughout the film. Fury Road pulled this off magnificently and certainly was not lacking a story.
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Freeza wrote:El Gunner wrote:From what I gathered the plot of Fury Road is just Max helping Furiousa and some other slave women and leading them to safety from the evil guy, and they drive and fight around in the desert mainly.
So maybe that's all Adit felt he got from it?
Plot =/= story
And if that's how you look at a film I feel sorry for you. All films can be said to be like that unless it only relies on plotheavy storytelling like Gone Girl does.
lol don't be so hasty to go on the attack, I haven't seen it yet.
I was just simply putting down the plot like I heard of it, and I didn't say plot = story. I know the difference between a plot and a story.
edit: think you misinterpreted my post
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In the most simplest terms, plot is what happens, story is what it (the film) is about.
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Yeah, the plot is basically the outline of how the story progresses.
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David Bordwell is probably the most regarded in film theory on this subject.
Plot = Explicitly presented events.
Story = Presumed and inferred events.
@ElGunner. Was more directed at Adit, but I commented on your post because it gave a good option to comment rather than his did. I know you haven't watched it yet, and I'm disappointed
Plot = Explicitly presented events.
Story = Presumed and inferred events.
@ElGunner. Was more directed at Adit, but I commented on your post because it gave a good option to comment rather than his did. I know you haven't watched it yet, and I'm disappointed
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Next week brah
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RedOranje wrote:A simple plot does not equate to lacking a story. To be fair, you're far from the first or most prominent person to imply or suggest as much; I've seen fairly major reviewers follow that same line. However, a well executed but simple plot can still provide a compelling and engaging story, particularly if it contains strong unique characters who develop and evolve throughout the film. Fury Road pulled this off magnificently and certainly was not lacking a story.
Your review?
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Wow.
Short version: "Wow"
Long(er) version: Fantastically crafted and well acted tour de force of practical effects and spectacle as a story-telling device. Not necessarily, in my opinion, the "greatest action film of the decade" or "one of the greatest action films of all time" as some have proclaimed, but a thoroughly enjoyable and extraordinarily well-made film nonetheless. Further, I personally felt there was more depth to it than some give it credit for and, ironically, some surprising opponents of it actually highlight some of the great (and overlooked) aspects of the films characters and themes.
That said, the scenes directly dealing with Max's breakdown/psychoses felt a bit out of place and there were a couple of surprising and disappointing moments where they clearly pandered to 3D. That the latter events were so rare so as to be surprising in the type of film that has recently had just about one such event every 15 minutes is a positive though.
RealGunner wrote:RedOranje wrote:A simple plot does not equate to lacking a story. To be fair, you're far from the first or most prominent person to imply or suggest as much; I've seen fairly major reviewers follow that same line. However, a well executed but simple plot can still provide a compelling and engaging story, particularly if it contains strong unique characters who develop and evolve throughout the film. Fury Road pulled this off magnificently and certainly was not lacking a story.
Your review?
Short version: "Wow"
Long(er) version: Fantastically crafted and well acted tour de force of practical effects and spectacle as a story-telling device. Not necessarily, in my opinion, the "greatest action film of the decade" or "one of the greatest action films of all time" as some have proclaimed, but a thoroughly enjoyable and extraordinarily well-made film nonetheless. Further, I personally felt there was more depth to it than some give it credit for and, ironically, some surprising opponents of it actually highlight some of the great (and overlooked) aspects of the films characters and themes.
That said, the scenes directly dealing with Max's breakdown/psychoses felt a bit out of place and there were a couple of surprising and disappointing moments where they clearly pandered to 3D. That the latter events were so rare so as to be surprising in the type of film that has recently had just about one such event every 15 minutes is a positive though.
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Yep, had the same 'wow' feeling while walking out. Still can't believe how amazing the stunts were. Agreed about the depth. At no point it felt hollow or weak.
I'd still insist that this was one of the best directed film in a long long time.
I'd still insist that this was one of the best directed film in a long long time.
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I just can't believe it was made at all. Not even Spielberg gets a 150m budget with complete creative freedom, and when we consider that Max was not even the protagonist, or main decision maker, and that George Miller had only made 3 children's movies in the past 20 years, it just seems like an incredibly rare thing. Oh, and it was successful too, which also seemed unlikely.
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Apparently George Miller has been developing the idea since 1998. And he originally wanted heath ledger to play mad max.
Hope this film makes enough for a sequel.
Hope this film makes enough for a sequel.
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Miller already has a script ready for the sequel. Mad Max: The Wasteland
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Yea, but he won't get the go ahead unless fury road makes a good enough profit.
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Unbelievable how much of the movie was not CGI
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One of those 6/10 films
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