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Post by RealGunner Thu Mar 19, 2015 11:35 pm

This season was the first time since 92 that an English club failed to make beyond R16 in either El/CL. Anomaly at this point. If this happens again, which is unlikely, then there is a cause of worry.

Top 3 spots doesn't really matter since they all get the same Cl spots. But it's important to keep the distance from the 4th placed team.


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Post by elitedam Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:04 am

This thread is premature as hell. First time in five years that Italy has a higher number of points than England and we're already projecting when they'll take over?

If anything the EPL will just buy Serie A and take it's European spots if it feels threatened enough.
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Fri Mar 20, 2015 2:44 am

We are not really projecting when they will take over, but what would be required for it. I think most people here don't think that Serie a will outperform the EPL for the next 2 seasons.
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Post by Tomwin Lannister Fri Mar 20, 2015 2:55 am

BarrileteCosmico wrote:We are not really projecting when they will take over, but what would be required for it. I think most people here don't think that Serie a will outperform the EPL for the next 2 seasons.


Only chance is if Serie A do another Europa league mop up, PL teams seem to resent playing in it now, ironically that's how Serie A phucked up originally.
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Post by B-Mac Fri Mar 20, 2015 5:13 am

pls we will be back next season stunting on these fools :coffee:

pride of england will return
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Post by futbol Fri Mar 20, 2015 5:17 am

B-Mac wrote:pls we will be back next season stunting on these fools :coffee:

pride of england will return


Do you have an idea in which pot Yanited will land if they make top 4? Defo not seeded anymore so you might end up in a group with Bayern, Mehdrid etc. hmm

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Post by McAgger Fri Mar 20, 2015 5:52 am

Meh not worried, while all this speculation is good, we (mule leaguers) have got major dough coming our way with the new TV deal. Gonna keep buying all the goat Serie A players that keep the league afloat.
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Post by futbol Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:08 am

Don't call me James wrote:Meh not worried, while all this speculation is good, we (mule leaguers) have got major dough coming our way with the new TV deal. Gonna keep buying all the goat Serie A players that keep the league afloat.


Gervinho back to Arsenal and Seydou Keita replacing Yaya confirmed. Molenation

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Post by Hapless_Hans Fri Mar 20, 2015 6:25 am

BarrileteCosmico wrote:Update:

If over the remainder of this season and the following Serie A outperforms the PL by 5.93 coefficient points it will get the 4th spot back in 2016/17

If over the remainder of this season and the following 2 Serie A outperforms the PL by 2.04 coefficient points it will get the 4th spot back in 2017/18.



A bit misleading. Italy would overtake England in the ranking, but would get the 4th CL team back only a year later respectively, 2017/18 or 2018/19
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Post by BORUSSIA!! Fri Mar 20, 2015 7:34 am

EPL had a record breaking TV deal from 2013-2016 (only to be broken again for 2016-2019) which everyone thought would bring lots of quality to the league.

So EPL fans shouldn't be entirely confident that more money will keep them safe.

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Post by breva Fri Mar 20, 2015 10:09 am

The EPL generates almost three times the revenue of the other top 4 leagues, which have about equal earnings. Spain, Italy and Germany have about the same money (revenue) to play with now, but Italy will probably show more growth as more clubs build their own stadiums. So, those three leagues compete on a relatively even pitch money wise, pardon the pun. It does not seem, however, that money alone makes a league successful in Europe. Ukraine has two teams remaining in Europe, for example, while Portugal has only one. Not to mention that England has none with all that money. So, national style of play, tactics and coaching, conducive to Europe, has a lot to do with success in Europe. There are only a finite number of quality players that the EPL can warehouse, there are many quality players available worldwide.
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Post by Helmer Fri Mar 20, 2015 10:53 am

Fußball wrote:
Don't call me James wrote:Meh not worried, while all this speculation is good, we (mule leaguers) have got major dough coming our way with the new TV deal. Gonna keep buying all the goat Serie A players that keep the league afloat.


Gervinho back to Arsenal and Seydou Keita replacing Yaya confirmed. Molenation

yes Liverpool will buy Pjanic and other Teams like Southampton, WestHam, Spurs will buy loads of other talent from Serie A hmm das Strategie for coeff Points Proud

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Post by B-Mac Fri Mar 20, 2015 8:09 pm

Fußball wrote:
B-Mac wrote:pls we will be back next season stunting on these fools :coffee:

pride of england will return


Do you have an idea in which pot Yanited will land if they make top 4? Defo not seeded anymore so you might end up in a group with Bayern, Mehdrid etc. hmm


1 year out after 2 decades in and we are unseeded...what Neutral
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Post by sportsczy Fri Mar 20, 2015 8:19 pm

Only 3 quarterfinalists from EPL since 2011. From 2008-2011, EPL had 11... so it isn't just a one year thing. When Chelsea won CL, you couldn't call it inspiring Laughing
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Post by Hapless_Hans Fri Mar 20, 2015 8:27 pm

B-Mac wrote:
Fußball wrote:
B-Mac wrote:pls we will be back next season stunting on these fools :coffee:

pride of england will return


Do you have an idea in which pot Yanited will land if they make top 4? Defo not seeded anymore so you might end up in a group with Bayern, Mehdrid etc. hmm


1 year out after 2 decades in and we are unseeded...what Neutral


you went from 6th to 10th place so I guess you will be in pot 2.

wait, make that 'would be' instead of 'will be' Smile
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Post by breva Sun Mar 22, 2015 8:15 am

League------2014-2015 Points----------Teams in Europe

Spain---------16,357-------------------------4/7
Italy----------16,166-------------------------3/6
Germany-----15,000-------------------------2/7
England------13,571-------------------------0/7

With four teams left in the competitions, Spain should widen its lead over the other leagues.
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Post by jibers Sun Mar 22, 2015 9:22 am

http://www.goallegacy.net/t37489-champions-league-places-top-4-to-top-3-for-england

Please ensure that the threads you make are not already in existence. It makes my job as a moderator much easier (:

And welcome to the forum! cheers

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Post by breva Sun Mar 22, 2015 10:58 am

Will do.
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Post by rwo power Sun Mar 22, 2015 10:59 am

Okay, threads merged, title modified a bit and original title put into the first post as headline so that the discussion still makes sense.

Oh, and welcome to the forum, breva Very Happy
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Post by breva Sun Mar 22, 2015 11:23 am

France is at 10.750 pts. so if the 2 French teams manage to get 2 wins out of the 4 quarter final games (4 points to 14.750), they will leapfrog England for 2014-2015, probably for the first time they have ever done so, at least since the last 2 decades.
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Post by rwo power Sun Mar 22, 2015 11:29 am

By the way, this is my favourite coefficient overview:
http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/data/method4/crank2015.html

Here you can nicely see how many points each club made for the overall coefficient:
http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/data/method4/ccoef2015.html
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Post by Helmer Sun Mar 22, 2015 12:54 pm

France ahead of England :coffee:

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Post by rwo power Sun Mar 22, 2015 3:26 pm

HEIL MEIN REDS wrote:France ahead of England :coffee:
breva means the isolated numbers for 2014/15 that you can see here:
http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/data/method4/ccoef2015.html

It will only take 2.822 Points for France to go ahead.
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Post by Lord Awesome Sun Mar 22, 2015 6:40 pm

Ligue 1 :bow:
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Post by BarrileteCosmico Thu Apr 23, 2015 10:17 pm

http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/data/method4/crank2016.html

UEFA coefficient gap between England and Italy is now less than 4 points going into the next season, potential for it to decrease further depending on the results of Juve, Napoli and Fiorentina.

Serie Zzzz now has more coefficient points this season than the Bayern Training and Feeder league in the year of the Dortmund-Bayern final, highlighting the importance of the EL for these rankings.

The La Liga gap with everyone else is just monstrous Laughing


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Post by rwo power Thu Apr 23, 2015 10:25 pm

FC Basel #14 in next year's team ranking :bow:
http://kassiesa.home.xs4all.nl/bert/uefa/data/method4/trank2016.html
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