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Re: Has Allegri been vindicated for his last season at Milan?

Post by McLewis on Fri Mar 20, 2015 3:11 pm

I still maintain that virtually any coach worth his footballing salt could've done what Allegri's done so far. He walked into a team already constructed to win titles. His only challenge has been keeping them motivated and he's done that with ease.

Allegri should be judged next season when he actually starts molding this squad into his own image, tactics and priniciples.

If it's not broke, don't fix it....Allegri knows this and adhered to it. Simple as that.

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Re: Has Allegri been vindicated for his last season at Milan?

Post by windkick on Fri Mar 20, 2015 3:37 pm

I agree with McLewis

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Re: Has Allegri been vindicated for his last season at Milan?

Post by Don't call me James on Fri Mar 20, 2015 3:55 pm

So do I

Even if they get to the CL semis they would have had one of the easiest paths to get there in a very long time.

All they needed was to get ahead of Malmo and Olympiakos to qualify from the group Laughing

And then face the worst Dortmund side in half a decade. And now Monaco in the quarters who, by many, were considered the easiest draw for the quarters.

I think Conte would have been able to do the same thing and get them to where they are today.

Allegri deserves praise of course, can't just completely take all the credit away from him but this Juve side are too good and it wouldn't matter who is in charge as long as they have a brain they could do well.

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Re: Has Allegri been vindicated for his last season at Milan?

Post by dronte on Fri Mar 20, 2015 4:41 pm

We shouldn't be speaking about the results here solely. Allegri was capable of changing formations and rotating players almost perfectly, which was nowhere to be seen last year. His tactical movements are well above Conte's standards, and this hugely contributed to our great fitness level for the spring (you could see against Dortmund, while in Serie A it was mostly just resting and grinding out results).

I seriously doubt Conte would have been able to get this far. Fatigue would have killed us already, and come on, we didn't have a harder group last year in CL either, and still crashed out with shameful performances..

Not to mention we are plagued by injuries this year, unlike the last 3 years, and still performing well when we have to.

I'm not saying he has done an extraordinary job (I think we can surely evaluate at the end of the season) but he definitely exceeded the expectations (at least mine).

Also it will be a huge job to mentally prepare the team for the quarters. We haven't been in the semis for a loooong time, great pressure on our shoulders. Not to mention Allegri has to make sure the team does not underestimate Monaco, as Arsenal did. It IS a huge challenge.


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Post by T0tti on Fri Mar 20, 2015 4:45 pm

Conte failed to qualify from a group of Galatasaray and Copenhagen last year..

as for Allegri, the only time Ibra failed to win the league was under him in his last year at Milan Very Happy
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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Wed Mar 25, 2015 11:07 am

Lippi: 'I see myself in Allegri'

http://www.football-italia.net/64320/lippi-i-see-myself-allegri

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Re: Has Allegri been vindicated for his last season at Milan?

Post by BarcaJuve on Wed Mar 25, 2015 11:39 am

@BarrileteCosmico wrote:Us Allegri suppporters (and by "us" I really mean "me" since I can't recall anyone else defending his Milan haydays) have been proved right in the end Proud


he's an underrated manager. He doesn't have the media charm of a Klopp or the attention-grabbing nature of Mourinho

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Re: Has Allegri been vindicated for his last season at Milan?

Post by farfan on Wed Mar 25, 2015 12:54 pm

@BarcaJuve wrote:
@BarrileteCosmico wrote:Us Allegri suppporters (and by "us" I really mean "me" since I can't recall anyone else defending his Milan haydays) have been proved right in the end Proud


he's an underrated manager. He doesn't have the media charm of a Klopp or the attention-grabbing nature of Mourinho


he also doesn't have the accomplishments that warrant putting him in the same category as the guys you just mentioned .
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Post by Tomwin Lannister on Wed Mar 25, 2015 2:21 pm

I am pleasantly surprised at Allegri's willingness to mix things up. Unlike Conte who had one idea, executed it almost perfectly but it was one god damn idea nonetheless.

We WILL play 3-5-2 we WILL grind out results and we WILL soak up pressure without a counter attacking threat.

Now go get 'em boys.


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Re: Has Allegri been vindicated for his last season at Milan?

Post by breva on Wed Mar 25, 2015 3:40 pm

I think that if you compare his performance with Milan to the performance of the managers that came after him at Milan, he is either a genius comparatively, or the managers that came after were/are absolute morons.
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Re: Has Allegri been vindicated for his last season at Milan?

Post by Kaladin on Wed Mar 25, 2015 3:51 pm

You mean Seedorf, the guy who spontaneously quit playing in Brazil and flew to Italy to coach Milan without a coaching license, and Pippo who had a year and a half experience at Primavera?

No yardsticks for me here, at least not in Seedorf's case, you can make an argument for Pippo but he still had a better start to our season and was in a better state than when Allegri left, since we were hovering around 13-11th at that time.

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Re: Has Allegri been vindicated for his last season at Milan?

Post by DeviAngel on Wed Mar 25, 2015 5:39 pm

Allegri deserves a lot of praise especially for tactical flexibility ( Conte had none), rotating players and having the guts to change formations when it most mattered. Plus he always fixes what he sees wrong in the team and learns from every game. His interviews are awesome. Trust me you have to be Juventus fan to see these things. Plus he managed almsot whole season with shitty Pirlo, Off form Vidal, Injured Barzagli and Asamoah.

Pirlo,Vidal and Barzagli are key players for us. And its not easy to just take a team that won 3 scudetti in a row and keep it motivated, you all know examples which failed.

So far 10/10 from me.

If we had Conte our players would be fatigued in December.

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Re: Has Allegri been vindicated for his last season at Milan?

Post by Kaladin on Wed Mar 25, 2015 6:06 pm

This thread is in the context of acquitting Allegri from his last season at Milan, not his current tenure.

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Re: Has Allegri been vindicated for his last season at Milan?

Post by DeviAngel on Wed Mar 25, 2015 6:28 pm

El Shaarawy wrote:This thread is in the context of acquitting Allegri from his last season at Milan, not his current tenure.

I was referring to other comments Smile

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Re: Has Allegri been vindicated for his last season at Milan?

Post by BarrileteCosmico on Tue May 05, 2015 9:38 pm

Let's add "Beat Real Madrid 2-1 at home in the CL semis" to the what has he done list.

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Re: Has Allegri been vindicated for his last season at Milan?

Post by RealGunner on Tue May 05, 2015 9:43 pm

LOL ANY Manager would have beaten Madrid. He got lucky. I mean Big sam would have pulled this off as well. With Carlton cole replacing Morata.

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Seriously, his gameplan was really good. Invited pressure from Madrid while tried to win the ball as high as Juve could. The over the top balls worked really well as Madrid tried to move forward. They really should have scored more than 2 goals.

But Juve did get lucky on few occasions. Think Pirlo was quite hit n miss. Pogba can't come soon enough.
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Re: Has Allegri been vindicated for his last season at Milan?

Post by Kaladin on Tue May 05, 2015 9:46 pm

El Shaarawy wrote:
@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
@Robespierre wrote:But who chose to sell Andrea Pirlo in place of midfielder destroyers ?


Laughing

Besides I don't see how being average at Juve means he did a great job at Milan, he can win the *bleep* CL at Juve and still don't change the fact he wasn't good at Milan.

Don't see why Milan fans should change their minds because he happens to be doing OK with his new team. It means absolutely nothing.



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Re: Has Allegri been vindicated for his last season at Milan?

Post by BarrileteCosmico on Tue May 05, 2015 9:46 pm

Juve were also unlucky (think mostly Llorente). It evened out imo.

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Re: Has Allegri been vindicated for his last season at Milan?

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Tue May 05, 2015 9:48 pm

He'll never be vindicated as i said but at the end of the day he's doing great for Juve right now and that's all that matters.

Good luck to him, although it doesn't escape the fact he was poor at Milan.

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Re: Has Allegri been vindicated for his last season at Milan?

Post by Casciavit on Tue May 05, 2015 9:51 pm

Is it really that hard to admit he's done well at Juventus, but made many faults at Milan?

Congrats to him, but it doesn't take away the fact he's made some questionable decisions in the past.

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Re: Has Allegri been vindicated for his last season at Milan?

Post by BarrileteCosmico on Tue May 05, 2015 9:59 pm

El Shaarawy wrote:This thread is in the context of acquitting Allegri from his last season at Milan, not his current tenure.


It wasn't really about acquitting him but rather about restoring his reputation after leaving a club in disgrace.

Tbf some of the posts here have opened my eyes about just how bad his 3rd season at Milan was, and about how his previous 2 were not as good as I thought they were.

Still fun to bump though :coffee:

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Re: Has Allegri been vindicated for his last season at Milan?

Post by Tomwin Lannister on Tue May 05, 2015 10:16 pm

Well judging both Milan and SexxxLlegri's time after they parted ways, I'd say it was more Milans fault than Allegri's so he's not only vindicated, he is a hero. The hero Milan deserved, not the one it needed right then.

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Re: Has Allegri been vindicated for his last season at Milan?

Post by RealGunner on Wed May 13, 2015 9:43 pm

Outclassed Ancelotti over 2 legs Laughing

Where are the haters now?

Great great tactician.
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Re: Has Allegri been vindicated for his last season at Milan?

Post by The Franchise on Wed May 13, 2015 9:50 pm

Did a great job, I am on record as one of his biggest fans...but he almost messed this up with his subs.

Pirlo should have came off about 15 minutes earlier than he did.

Pogba was begging to get taken off.

They needed something, anything up front to keep the waves of Madrid attacks off...Llorente came late and had that impact, just by bringing down 3-4 balls. Should have came sooner.
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Re: Has Allegri been vindicated for his last season at Milan?

Post by RealGunner on Wed May 13, 2015 10:00 pm

@The Franchise wrote:Did a great job, I am on record as one of his biggest fans...but he almost messed this up with his subs.

Pirlo should have came off about 15 minutes earlier than he did.

Pogba was begging to get taken off.

They needed something, anything up front to keep the waves of Madrid attacks off...Llorente came late and had that impact, just by bringing down 3-4 balls. Should have came sooner.


Yea agreed there. Was asking for Sturaro/Pereyra to come on for Pirlo even in the first half because I thought he had quite a poor match overall. His passing was hit n miss most of the time.

Not a big fan of Llorente but he did well late on.

Wonder if he sticks with the same team in the final
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Re: Has Allegri been vindicated for his last season at Milan?

Post by Casciavit on Wed May 13, 2015 10:00 pm

ugh

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