Is Cavani the biggest fraud of the decade?

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Re: Is Cavani the biggest fraud of the decade?

Post by BarrileteCosmico on Wed Sep 14, 2016 12:15 pm

Seriefaces need to stop living in  and glorifying the past. :whistle:

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Re: Is Cavani the biggest fraud of the decade?

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Wed Sep 14, 2016 12:48 pm

Not as much as we all need to stop acting like Serie A has gotten any better and hyping the now lol.

Cavani was lethal at Napoli and don't tell me it was because of the defenders in Italy ( as if it's got better anyway) considering he's missing chances for PSG with no defenders around him Laughing Laughing

I don't know why he's struggling so much now, but the issue seems to be he's constantly missing loads and loads of chances which never happened before.

Which has nothing to do with romanticism of Serie A or he apparently being a fraud, it's not like he's not getting himself into scoring positions and doing *bleep* all.

Then it would make sense, but no here he's getting loads of chances and missing them all when before he wasn't and in fact it was quite the opposite.

So the argument most are actually putting forth actually makes no sense what so ever.

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Re: Is Cavani the biggest fraud of the decade?

Post by BarrileteCosmico on Wed Sep 14, 2016 12:53 pm

Was he lethal (high finishing skills) or did he simply get a lot of chances to score a lot?

Edinson Cavani: Both scored (21) and missed (26) the most clear-cut chances in Serie A in 2012/13 #TBT

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Re: Is Cavani the biggest fraud of the decade?

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Wed Sep 14, 2016 12:56 pm

As if he doesn't get a lot of chances to score a lot at PSG lol.

Also those stats are pretty meaningless when you play for a team that creates a lot you are liable to miss a lot. It's basically a law of averages lol.

Messi, Suarez and Ronaldo are up there in missed chances every season.

Nobody would say those players aren't lethal though.

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Re: Is Cavani the biggest fraud of the decade?

Post by rincon on Wed Sep 14, 2016 1:02 pm

Why are people trying to rewrite the past? He is poor right now and has bad finishing and all that stuff. How does it change what he did before?

Ronaldinho in 2008 was not particularly great and didn't impact games a lot, does that mean that he wasn't godlike 3 years before?

Or was Fabregas shit at Arsenal because nowadays he is benched by Oscar and Matic at Chelsea?

No logic to this whatsoever.
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Re: Is Cavani the biggest fraud of the decade?

Post by futbol on Wed Sep 14, 2016 3:18 pm

@rincon wrote:Why are people trying to rewrite the past? He is poor right now and has bad finishing and all that stuff. How does it change what he did before?

Ronaldinho in 2008 was not particularly great and didn't impact games a lot, does that mean that he wasn't godlike 3 years before?

Or was Fabregas shit at Arsenal because nowadays he is benched by Oscar and Matic at Chelsea?

No logic to this whatsoever.


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Re: Is Cavani the biggest fraud of the decade?

Post by M99 on Wed Sep 14, 2016 4:09 pm

The best example would be Torres. His time post-Liverpool doesn't mean he was fraud at Liverpool and Atletico.

Cavani seems to have massive confidence problems. His movement is superb but his finishing and composure is worst I've seen since those lads trying to get laid in The Inbetweeners.

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Re: Is Cavani the biggest fraud of the decade?

Post by BarrileteCosmico on Wed Sep 14, 2016 4:46 pm

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:As if he doesn't get a lot of chances to score a lot at PSG lol.

Also those stats are pretty meaningless when you play for a team that creates a lot you are liable to miss a lot. It's basically a law of averages lol.

Messi, Suarez and Ronaldo are up there in missed chances every season.

Nobody would say those players aren't lethal though.


My point is that if you are making the argument that he was a great finisher that is not true and the stats will back me up. His shot conversion and shot accuracy stats are, at best, average for an elite striker during his best season there. That's not to say his technique was not great and he has some great goals, but I wouldn't call him "lethal".

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Re: Is Cavani the biggest fraud of the decade?

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Wed Sep 14, 2016 4:56 pm

Meh stats.

If we are going by conversion rates then the best 3 forwards in the world are not great finishers either.

I used to watch Serie A regularly back then, and it wasn't just Serie A as he performed in the CL too as well tbh and he definitely was one of the best forwards in Europe at the time.

Because he's struggling now and missing shit loads doesn't change that fact and no amount of history revisionist misleading stats will do it either.


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Re: Is Cavani the biggest fraud of the decade?

Post by Valkyrja on Fri Sep 16, 2016 8:35 pm

Holy shat he's scoring 7 today rofl

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Re: Is Cavani the biggest fraud of the decade?

Post by rincon on Fri Sep 16, 2016 8:36 pm

!!! 4 in 1 half so far
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Re: Is Cavani the biggest fraud of the decade?

Post by sportsczy on Fri Sep 16, 2016 8:47 pm

He got mad Laughing

Running even harder than against Arsenal and the defenders just can't keep up with his runs. Unreal if he gets his efficiency back.

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Re: Is Cavani the biggest fraud of the decade?

Post by Pip on Fri Sep 16, 2016 10:32 pm

Caen. Nothing more needs to be said. :coffee:

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Re: Is Cavani the biggest fraud of the decade?

Post by farfan on Sat Sep 17, 2016 12:48 pm

@Pip wrote:Caen. Nothing more needs to be said. :coffee:


Games like this are the reason why his stats at PSG are " ok " . Laughing

Let's see if he keeps it up .
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Re: Is Cavani the biggest fraud of the decade?

Post by sportsczy on Sat Sep 17, 2016 12:52 pm

Well Ibra made a living off of stat padding against teams like Caen. Same with most of the top CFs in Europe. I don't see why Cavani's goals against them should be looked down upon.

As I mentioned very early on... Cavani is either very hot or cold as ice. He runs his arse off every game. But if his confidence is low, he's an awful finisher. If he gets his efficiency/confidence back, I think he scores 50 this season given his work rate and if he stays healthy. He gets so many chances every game just on his movement alone.

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Re: Is Cavani the biggest fraud of the decade?

Post by Sushi Master on Sat Sep 17, 2016 3:27 pm

Still believe in him. Still think he can be a top 5 striker.

Here's to hoping he gets his confidence back and regains his top level.

Scoring is key to a striker's confidence. Be it against Caen, Rayo or Werder Bremen.

If a striker scores 30 goals a season, you don't go, "oh, he only scored 2 against Barcelona and the rest were league minors". You count every goal, because if those goals are winning you games, the striker is doing his job very well.
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Re: Is Cavani the biggest fraud of the decade?

Post by Gil on Sat Sep 17, 2016 3:31 pm

He's elite you fools and people claiming it's Caen like he didn't tear Arsenal a new one with his movement just couldn't finish.

The level of opposition isn't the problem unlike with Ibra, it's his composure in front of goal
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Re: Is Cavani the biggest fraud of the decade?

Post by Pip on Sat Sep 17, 2016 11:13 pm

Level of opposition is a fair complaint. Nobody cares if Cavani scores four goals against Caen. Even without Cavani, they would win. Look at the match against Metz: so you see even if Cavani plays bad, the team will compensate.

The problem is when Cavani plays bad against the better teams. And then when he misses important chances, the team suffers. Look at the match against Monaco or the match against Arsenal, the two good teams PSG plays this season.

So if he scores 30 goals in Ligue 1, should we be amazed? Not really, IMO. Every match offers him gift-wrapped chances. He is the only defined goalscorer for the best team in a weak league.

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Re: Is Cavani the biggest fraud of the decade?

Post by Pip on Sat Sep 17, 2016 11:21 pm

Cavani's movement is not the reason for the chances. Ibra moved only when he wanted to and he would get the most opportunities in Ligue 1. Laughing

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Re: Is Cavani the biggest fraud of the decade?

Post by Red Alert on Sun Sep 18, 2016 6:45 am

He has a very similar conversion rate from Serie A and Ligue 1.

He was wasteful at times with Napoli, too...

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Re: Is Cavani the biggest fraud of the decade?

Post by zizzle on Wed Sep 28, 2016 9:08 pm

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Re: Is Cavani the biggest fraud of the decade?

Post by farfan on Wed Sep 28, 2016 9:40 pm

Didn't watch the game,but it's safe to assume that psg created 45457787 scoring chances. hmm
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Re: Is Cavani the biggest fraud of the decade?

Post by Warrior on Wed Sep 28, 2016 9:46 pm

World class player ! A must-have when it comes to play against the likes of Ludogorets, Dijon and Montpellier.
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Re: Is Cavani the biggest fraud of the decade?

Post by Sri on Wed Nov 23, 2016 9:26 pm

What a scrub.

Should have had a hat trick tonight.
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Re: Is Cavani the biggest fraud of the decade?

Post by Don't call me James on Wed Nov 23, 2016 9:27 pm

LMAO he just missed another sitter.

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Re: Is Cavani the biggest fraud of the decade?

Post by urbaNRoots on Wed Nov 23, 2016 10:10 pm

Guy keeps scoring every game but he is a fraud amirite?
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