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Post by rincon on Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:09 pm

@Tomwin Lannister wrote:
@Lord Spencer wrote:This only exploited his absolutely terrible tactics and lack of courage last week.

Mandazukic should have started last week.


That's pure hindsight
Mandzukic has been looking absolutely shit against Serie A fodder. He's also been fluffing headers left, right and centre.


He was also injured so there's that. He raced to fitness to make the bench.

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Post by urbaNRoots on Wed Apr 11, 2018 10:11 pm

Mourinhoesque performance from Allegri tonight. Just when you need the goal to finish off the game you decide to be cowardly.
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Post by rincon on Thu Apr 12, 2018 9:25 am

You are acting like Madrid is Benevento. After Matuidi's goal we continued pressing forward for a few minutes and then Madrid woke up and pushed us back.
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Post by Hapless_Hans on Thu Apr 12, 2018 9:27 am

Genuinely not sure whether Mourinho ever was up 3:0 in a CL knockout with any team in his career.

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Post by rincon on Thu Apr 12, 2018 9:38 am

Mourinho goes away to Sevilla and plays for a 0-0. That's a Mourinho-esque performance right there.
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Post by Hapless_Hans on Thu Apr 12, 2018 9:39 am

tbf 0-0 away at Sevilla is a good result

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Post by Vlad the Impaler on Thu Apr 12, 2018 9:50 am

@Hapless_Hans wrote:tbf 0-0 away at Sevilla is a good result


Yep. The home game was the biggest and the only real problem. Allegri would've killed that Sevilla side on Old Trafford.
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Post by Robespierre on Thu Apr 12, 2018 9:56 am

There are 2 Champions League won of difference between those 2 , calma.

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Post by Luca on Thu Apr 12, 2018 12:44 pm

Best Italian manager

Hope he stays with us as long as possible
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Post by Mr Nick09 on Sun Apr 29, 2018 2:58 am

fantastic video, i love how honest he is with his ideas. this is the same school Zidane subscribe to, organize the defense and let your attackers free to play as they want and score goals



For those who dont understand Italian or dont read french, he is essentially saying that the debate about tactics in football is getting too complicated, because tactics alone are not enough to win games. he takes the example of basketball and says at the end, when there are 5 seconds left, you give the ball to the best player. So he argues that tactics dont need to be too complicated, and youth football must focus on developing individual technique because that's why messi, CR, Higuain cost in the hundreds of millions. So his philosophy is to keep things simple, organize the defensive side of the game and to leave freedom to his attackers to go make the difference.

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Post by adun101 on Sun Apr 29, 2018 12:14 pm

About Ronaldo, Messi and Higuain: he actually said they wpuldn't be worth those hundreds of millions if the scheme is what wins you the match

Anyway, its' a shit philosophy: you're not paid to coach only the defense and if your squad talent is inferior then you're *bleep*. See Juve in Serie A vs UCL
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Post by Art Morte on Sun Apr 29, 2018 1:06 pm

There's definitely a tendency among football fans and pundits to over-analyze tactics and formations.
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Post by Mr Nick09 on Sun Apr 29, 2018 1:34 pm

Until Guardiola and the barca doctrine, no one was talking about philosophy. They are the ones who introduced this notion that they have a better style than everyone hence they are the best in the world. Luckily they had Messi in his prime so that helped. And now it's a train of thought that has expanded to the point where even certain teams are convinced that playing better (whatever that is) = they are deserving to win. Case in point, Bayern players (Muller) saying he doesnt understand how they lost because they were better... well no, you lost because you were not better actually, that's why you lost.

Pragmatism vs beauty of the game, it's the heart of Mou vs Pep, Madrid vs Barca debate of late.

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Post by guest7 on Sun Apr 29, 2018 2:03 pm

@Art Morte wrote:There's definitely a tendency among football fans and pundits to over-analyze tactics and formations.


I agree, because most football players didn't even finish school and can barely sit through a lecture
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Post by Mr Nick09 on Sun Apr 29, 2018 2:39 pm

so you are correlating finishing school with one's ability to sit through a lecture and learn? that's asinine

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Post by Kaladin on Sun Apr 29, 2018 2:51 pm

@Mr Nick09 wrote:Until Guardiola and the barca doctrine, no one was talking about philosophy. They are the ones who introduced this notion that they have a better style than everyone hence they are the best in the world. Luckily they had Messi in his prime so that helped. And now it's a train of thought that has expanded to the point where even certain teams are convinced that playing better (whatever that is) = they are deserving to win. Case in point, Bayern players (Muller) saying he doesnt understand how they lost because they were better... well no, you lost because you were not better actually, that's why you lost.

Pragmatism vs beauty of the game, it's the heart of Mou vs Pep, Madrid vs Barca debate of late.


Beautiful

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Post by S on Sun Apr 29, 2018 3:02 pm

@Mr Nick09 wrote:Until Guardiola and the barca doctrine, no one was talking about philosophy. They are the ones who introduced this notion that they have a better style than everyone hence they are the best in the world. Luckily they had Messi in his prime so that helped. And now it's a train of thought that has expanded to the point where even certain teams are convinced that playing better (whatever that is) = they are deserving to win. Case in point, Bayern players (Muller) saying he doesnt understand how they lost because they were better... well no, you lost because you were not better actually, that's why you lost.

Pragmatism vs beauty of the game, it's the heart of Mou vs Pep, Madrid vs Barca debate of late.


Let's not forget you were subscribing to that thought not so long ago as well until Zippo made you look organized at the back and won you multiple CL's
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Post by Mr Nick09 on Sun Apr 29, 2018 5:07 pm

You are mistaking I don't subscribe to the Guardiola ideology about football. I like certain aspects of it. I believe in organized attacking football so a coach like Zidane or Allegri i will never like. What I hate is the dictature of thinking.

Zidane is just like Allegri to me, not surprised they share the same Italian heritage. This Madrid team is the most Italian team in Europe right now.

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