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Re: Goodbye Xavi

Post by futbol on Fri May 22, 2015 3:28 pm

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Re: Goodbye Xavi

Post by Lord Spencer on Fri May 22, 2015 4:03 pm

I think its a great thing that the CL final will feature the absolute best midfielders in the last 10 or so years facing each other.

While I always preferred Pirlo over Xavi, I find it ridiculous that someone can appreciate one without equally appreciating the other.

Xavi is leaving as one of the pillars of the greatest Barca of all time, and simply cannot leave on a higher note.
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Re: Goodbye Xavi

Post by harhar11 on Fri May 22, 2015 4:31 pm

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Best midfielder i have ever seen, despite not playing much this year he still managers to make fools of much younger and fitter opponents.

There was a game this year where he was hounded by 3 players to the point they was basically hanging off him and he still managed to twist and turn around them and break through and make a pass.

Legend gets thrown around too often but for him it's more than justified.


Not just that, as you said, Xavi hasn't played that much this season but his role as a captain was HUUUUGELy important this season. Apparently it was he who calmed everyone down after the mini-crisis that erupted after the sociedad game, and helped improve Messi's and Enrique's relationship and thanks to that(but not just that) Barca is close to winning a treble..

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Re: Goodbye Xavi

Post by Socur Toxanarosa on Fri May 22, 2015 4:41 pm

@Lord Spencer wrote:I think its a great thing that the CL final will feature the absolute best midfielders in the last 10 or so years facing each other.

While I always preferred Pirlo over Xavi, I find it ridiculous that someone can appreciate one without equally appreciating the other.

Xavi is leaving as one of the pillars of the greatest Barca of all time, and simply cannot leave on a higher note.


There's no such thing.

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Re: Goodbye Xavi

Post by Lord Spencer on Fri May 22, 2015 5:09 pm

@Socur Toxanarosa wrote:
@Lord Spencer wrote:I think its a great thing that the CL final will feature the absolute best midfielders in the last 10 or so years facing each other.

While I always preferred Pirlo over Xavi, I find it ridiculous that someone can appreciate one without equally appreciating the other.

Xavi is leaving as one of the pillars of the greatest Barca of all time, and simply cannot leave on a higher note.


There's no such thing.


Yes there is.

They are called Xavi, Pirlo, Ineista, Seedorf, among others. Personally, I see Pirlo and Xavi at the top of midfielders in the last 10 years.
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Re: Goodbye Xavi

Post by Freeza on Fri May 22, 2015 5:17 pm



Some say he lived on his own until he turned 25 and moves back home hmm

Looks so serious as a youngster Laughing

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Re: Goodbye Xavi

Post by Socur Toxanarosa on Fri May 22, 2015 5:25 pm

@Lord Spencer wrote:Yes there is.

They are called Xavi, Pirlo, Ineista, Seedorf, among others. Personally, I see Pirlo and Xavi at the top of midfielders in the last 10 years.


You can see them as the best but they're not absolute, there are others at the same level or even superior for a lot of people like Gerrard, Lampard, Ballack, Kaká, Sneijder, Riquelme...
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Re: Goodbye Xavi

Post by Freeza on Fri May 22, 2015 5:28 pm

@Socur Toxanarosa wrote:
@Lord Spencer wrote:Yes there is.

They are called Xavi, Pirlo, Ineista, Seedorf, among others. Personally, I see Pirlo and Xavi at the top of midfielders in the last 10 years.


You can see them as the best but they're not absolute, there are others at the same level or even superior for a lot of people like Gerrard, Lampard, Ballack, Kaká, Sneijder, Riquelme...


Xavi is def better than all of those come on. Riquelme and Sneijder? That's disrespectful at the least.

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Re: Goodbye Xavi

Post by farfan on Fri May 22, 2015 5:28 pm

legendary player .

legendary obnoxious douchebag too .
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Re: Goodbye Xavi

Post by Winter is Coming on Fri May 22, 2015 5:37 pm

Xavi Crying or Very sad

This will be us next season



@Socur Toxanarosa wrote:
@Lord Spencer wrote:Yes there is.

They are called Xavi, Pirlo, Ineista, Seedorf, among others. Personally, I see Pirlo and Xavi at the top of midfielders in the last 10 years.

You can see them as the best but they're not absolute, there are others at the same level or even superior for a lot of people like Gerrard, Lampard, Ballack, Kaká, Sneijder, Riquelme...


Gerrard, Lampard, Ballack better then or as good as Xavi? Laughing Kaká, Sneijder, Riquelme were great, but they just weren't on top for as long.

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Re: Goodbye Xavi

Post by Socur Toxanarosa on Fri May 22, 2015 5:50 pm

@Freeza wrote:
@Socur Toxanarosa wrote:
@Lord Spencer wrote:Yes there is.

They are called Xavi, Pirlo, Ineista, Seedorf, among others. Personally, I see Pirlo and Xavi at the top of midfielders in the last 10 years.


You can see them as the best but they're not absolute, there are others at the same level or even superior for a lot of people like Gerrard, Lampard, Ballack, Kaká, Sneijder, Riquelme...


Xavi is def better than all of those come on. Riquelme and Sneijder? That's disrespectful at the least.


You're being the disrespectful one here.

Sneijder deserved the ballon d'oro in 2010 for a lot if not the majority of people, carried Holland to the final of a WC, best player in a CL Champions side (Milito for some, i know). Struggled a lot in his career due to bad teams and later with too much partying.

Riquelme you will probably play down his time with Boca, i don't even care though, he was one the most talented CAM's ever.

Xavi and Pirlo were not really big deals until late in their careers, Xavi was suited for the particular style of Pep's Barcelona and was great because of that. Pirlo while being great never really stood out as the absolute star of Milan and Italy until his Juve's days, if not Milan would not let him go in the first place. I think people overrated them a bit these days.

@Winter is Coming wrote:Gerrard, Lampard, Ballack better then or as good as Xavi? Laughing Kaká, Sneijder, Riquelme were great, but they just weren't on top for as long.


In a team that does not play tiki taka, they're better actually. Yeah, consistency x peak is a good debate.
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Re: Goodbye Xavi

Post by Freeza on Fri May 22, 2015 5:53 pm

Yeah, not going to bother with this. Xavi has skinned us every year for a decade. Sneijder had one great year. Riquelme was talented but never amounted to what he could've been, talent means shit.

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Re: Goodbye Xavi

Post by RealGunner on Fri May 22, 2015 5:59 pm

Great article (from last year)

Xavi has made an imprint on more high-end teams than Barcelona

http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2014/mar/14/xavi-barcelona-champions-league-spain?CMP=share_btn_tw
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Re: Goodbye Xavi

Post by Winter is Coming on Fri May 22, 2015 5:59 pm

@Socur Toxanarosa wrote:
@Winter is Coming wrote:Gerrard, Lampard, Ballack better then or as good as Xavi? Laughing Kaká, Sneijder, Riquelme were great, but they just weren't on top for as long.


In a team that does not play tiki taka, they're better actually. Yeah, consistency x peak is a good debate.


No they aren't.

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Re: Goodbye Xavi

Post by Socur Toxanarosa on Fri May 22, 2015 6:05 pm

@Winter is Coming wrote:No they aren't.


Yes they are, Xavi would not even be at the same bracket as them before 2008 (Xavi was 28 already).

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Re: Goodbye Xavi

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Fri May 22, 2015 6:09 pm

@Socur Toxanarosa wrote:
@Winter is Coming wrote:No they aren't.


Yes they are, Xavi would not even be at the same bracket as them before 2008 (Xavi was 28 already).


Ah this old tired argument which you could apply to every footballer to have ever existed.


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Re: Goodbye Xavi

Post by Kaladin on Fri May 22, 2015 6:14 pm

Rendered our midfield team useless everytime we faced him



Destroyed us that game, (before Jibers/jiopsi points out Nesta did nothing in that video, Aquilani was marking him)
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Re: Goodbye Xavi

Post by Socur Toxanarosa on Fri May 22, 2015 6:16 pm

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
@Socur Toxanarosa wrote:
@Winter is Coming wrote:No they aren't.


Yes they are, Xavi would not even be at the same bracket as them before 2008 (Xavi was 28 already).


Ah this old tired argument which you could apply to every footballer to have ever existed.



Which proves my point that he became great in a team that plays to his strenghts, otherwise he is "just" a very good footballer and not better than the mentioned names.

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Re: Goodbye Xavi

Post by zigra on Fri May 22, 2015 6:18 pm

@Socur Toxanarosa wrote:
@Lord Spencer wrote:Yes there is.

They are called Xavi, Pirlo, Ineista, Seedorf, among others. Personally, I see Pirlo and Xavi at the top of midfielders in the last 10 years.


You can see them as the best but they're not absolute, there are others at the same level or even superior for a lot of people like Gerrard, Lampard, Ballack, Kaká, Sneijder, Riquelme...

loooooool
Pls go.
From that list only Kaka comes close. I hope you're trolling.
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Re: Goodbye Xavi

Post by Winter is Coming on Fri May 22, 2015 6:18 pm

@Socur Toxanarosa wrote:
@Winter is Coming wrote:No they aren't.


Yes they are, Xavi would not even be at the same bracket as them before 2008 (Xavi was 28 already).


Just because he didn't get the hype as the English give to players in there league doesn't mean he was nothing before 2008 Laughing Considering Milan under Carlo and Bayern both wanted him.

By that logic Sterling > Hames, where was Hames at the age of 21?

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Re: Goodbye Xavi

Post by zigra on Fri May 22, 2015 6:21 pm

@Socur Toxanarosa wrote:
@Winter is Coming wrote:No they aren't.


Yes they are, Xavi would not even be at the same bracket as them before 2008 (Xavi was 28 already).

Only played 420 games for Barca before the 08/09 season, winning only 3 league titles and one CL Proud Basically nonexistent before 2008 Molenation
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Re: Goodbye Xavi

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Fri May 22, 2015 6:24 pm

@Socur Toxanarosa wrote:
@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
@Socur Toxanarosa wrote:

Yes they are, Xavi would not even be at the same bracket as them before 2008 (Xavi was 28 already).


Ah this old tired argument which you could apply to every footballer to have ever existed.



Which proves my point that he became great in a team that plays to his strenghts, otherwise he is "just" a very good footballer and not better than the mentioned names.


He was so good that the team was made to play to his strengths, like every other great player to ever exist.

Anyway i'm lost here, apparently Messi needed Xavi to do anything now and it's Xavi who is nothing without " tiki taka" which is a meaningless buzzword created by the media for casual novices to understand the game.

Should stop while your ahead before you look more stupid than you already do.

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Re: Goodbye Xavi

Post by Curtinho on Fri May 22, 2015 6:25 pm

Sneijder never gets any respect. Clowns.

:coffee:

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Re: Goodbye Xavi

Post by Socur Toxanarosa on Fri May 22, 2015 6:27 pm

@Winter is Coming wrote:Just because he didn't get the hype as the English give to players in there league doesn't mean he was nothing before 2008 Laughing Considering Milan under Carlo and Bayern both wanted him.

By that logic Sterling > Hames, where was Hames at the age of 21?


English hype? wtf? I watched them at the time, i'm not basing this in hype. And what's the problem with Milan or Bayern wanting him? I did not say he was a scrub before his glory days.

@zigra wrote:Only played 420 games for Barca before the 08/09 season, winning only 3 league titles and one CL Proud Basically nonexistent before 2008 Molenation


Yes i said that Laughing
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Re: Goodbye Xavi

Post by BarrileteCosmico on Fri May 22, 2015 7:11 pm

El Cujo wrote:Sneijder never gets any respect. Clowns.

:coffee:
Maybe because he went into retirement at 26? Laughing

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Re: Goodbye Xavi

Post by Socur Toxanarosa on Fri May 22, 2015 7:21 pm

@BarrileteCosmico wrote:
El Cujo wrote:Sneijder never gets any respect. Clowns.

:coffee:
Maybe because he went into retirement at 26? Laughing


He was unlucky, went to a shitty Real Madrid and got sold when things would start to improve because he was Calderon's purchase. Arrives at Mourinho's Inter, great team, perfect season, probably deserved balon d'oro, Mourinho leaves and he is in a shitty team again for another 3 years. Probably lost the motivation and choose to spend the rest of his career in a pool of Turkish money.
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