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Re: Roberto Firmino: Another Round of Brazilliance

Post by Art Morte on Sun Aug 30, 2015 12:46 pm

I just hope we haven't bought a round peg for a triangle hole.

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Re: Roberto Firmino: Another Round of Brazilliance

Post by iftikhar on Sun Sep 13, 2015 6:24 pm

Still too early to judge him, specially the way the teams have been set-up so far. But it seems he will need more time to adopt to the physicality of EPL. But he is talented for sure.

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Re: Roberto Firmino: Another Round of Brazilliance

Post by Art Morte on Sun Sep 13, 2015 9:10 pm

Nothing wrong with his physicality, he just doesn't look like a very good wide player, yet he's being played out wide even when both Coutinho and Lallana are missing... Looking so far about as good a fit to our team as Balotelli.

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Re: Roberto Firmino: Another Round of Brazilliance

Post by Helmer on Sun Sep 13, 2015 9:26 pm

@Art Morte wrote:Nothing wrong with his physicality, he just doesn't look like a very good wide player, yet he's being played out wide even when both Coutinho and Lallana are missing... Looking so far about as good a fit to our team as Balotelli.

that was harsh but it is on ROdgers as well as that he is still new in this league.

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Re: Roberto Firmino: Another Round of Brazilliance

Post by Art Morte on Sun Sep 13, 2015 9:40 pm

I don't know, "new league", "different manager", these are excuses that truly good players don't need. Look at Andre Ayew, absolutely beasting it in a new league under an inexperienced manager.

It's only five games, so I could very well be wrong with this, but right now I don't think Firmino is ever going to be a good wide player. To me, it's getting to a point where he should be played behind the striker or not played at all.

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Re: Roberto Firmino: Another Round of Brazilliance

Post by Helmer on Sun Sep 13, 2015 9:48 pm

too early to compare Ayew to Firmino imo but you are right, all those players performing at the level of ayew are better than Firmino.

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Re: Roberto Firmino: Another Round of Brazilliance

Post by iftikhar on Mon Sep 14, 2015 6:44 am

@Art Morte wrote:Nothing wrong with his physicality, he just doesn't look like a very good wide player, yet he's being played out wide even when both Coutinho and Lallana are missing... Looking so far about as good a fit to our team as Balotelli.
I agree with your other points. But have you seen how exhausted he looked when he was subbed-off?

Also, I can't understand if you want some width; why not play Ibe and Markovic instead???

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Re: Roberto Firmino: Another Round of Brazilliance

Post by Art Morte on Mon Sep 14, 2015 7:53 am

@iftikhar wrote:
@Art Morte wrote:Nothing wrong with his physicality, he just doesn't look like a very good wide player, yet he's being played out wide even when both Coutinho and Lallana are missing... Looking so far about as good a fit to our team as Balotelli.
I agree with your other points. But have you seen how exhausted he looked when he was subbed-off?

Also, I can't understand if you want some width; why not play Ibe and Markovic instead???


I didn't pay attention did he look exhausted or not, but stamina aside, he isn't producing any moments that you'd expect a £29m signing to produce. There haven't been even glimpses that "wow, this guy is good". I'm worried.

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Re: Roberto Firmino: Another Round of Brazilliance

Post by Red Alert on Mon Sep 14, 2015 9:08 am

He's playing in a role he's not accustomed too in a team that's disjointed and has no interest at all, not too mention under a manager that has the same tactical nous as Roy F******* Hodsgon so yeah I can't really fault him at all.

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Re: Roberto Firmino: Another Round of Brazilliance

Post by ExtremistEnigma on Mon Sep 14, 2015 6:16 pm

@Art Morte wrote:I don't know, "new league", "different manager", these are excuses that truly good players don't need. Look at Andre Ayew, absolutely beasting it in a new league under an inexperienced manager.
Well said.

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Re: Roberto Firmino: Another Round of Brazilliance

Post by Don't call me James on Mon Oct 05, 2015 6:09 pm

Firmino will benefit a lot if we appoint Klopp.

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Re: Roberto Firmino: Another Round of Brazilliance

Post by iftikhar on Mon Oct 05, 2015 6:15 pm

@Don't call me James wrote:Firmino will benefit a lot if we appoint Klopp.
No need to buy Reus then hmm

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Re: Roberto Firmino: Another Round of Brazilliance

Post by Red Alert on Tue Oct 06, 2015 8:53 am

@iftikhar wrote:
@Don't call me James wrote:Firmino will benefit a lot if we appoint Klopp.
No need to buy Reus then hmm





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Re: Roberto Firmino: Another Round of Brazilliance

Post by iftikhar on Tue Oct 06, 2015 10:48 am

@Red Alert wrote:
@iftikhar wrote:
@Don't call me James wrote:Firmino will benefit a lot if we appoint Klopp.
No need to buy Reus then hmm







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Re: Roberto Firmino: Another Round of Brazilliance

Post by donttreadonred on Tue Oct 06, 2015 9:11 pm

@iftikhar wrote:
@Don't call me James wrote:Firmino will benefit a lot if we appoint Klopp.
No need to buy Reus then hmm

Could fit both into the same side.

That said, I'd rather find the new Reus... Perhaps, we already have him... hmm

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Roberto Firminho

Post by Helmer on Sun Nov 22, 2015 3:45 pm

I had honestly not expected that he would raise to such levels so early in the season. Such cases make me think all the heck I know as a fan about a player. Is he the Suarez's most likely replacement, excluding the biting Smile



he has started putting brilliant performances. Firmino is involved in 3 goals so far in Prmier League alone in this season. Firmino is raising levels of the player around him also. Since he is there, the creativity work is shared between him, Lallana and Coutinho. So Coutinho is under less pressure to play right passes all the time. Of course, he needs to improve his finishing if he wants to play the Front Man role/False Nine Role; but I am quite happy with his progress till now. He also works so hard for a player with such flair and skills. You can see in that video he recovered the ball many number of times. Well his performance in such a big game has also raised questions whether when Sturridge is not fit, should we play him there rotate with Big Benteke or even ahead of Benteke.

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Re: Roberto Firmino: Another Round of Brazilliance

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Re: Roberto Firmino: Another Round of Brazilliance

Post by Don't call me James on Sun Nov 22, 2015 10:32 pm

@Don't call me James wrote:Firmino will benefit a lot if we appoint Klopp.


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Re: Roberto Firmino: Another Round of Brazilliance

Post by Art Morte on Sun Nov 22, 2015 10:47 pm

He's definitely been better than at the start. First he didn't seem to know what to do on the pitch, but now he's starting to click with the rest of the team.


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Re: Roberto Firmino: Another Round of Brazilliance

Post by Unique on Sun Nov 22, 2015 11:02 pm

@Art Morte wrote:He's definitely been better than at the start. First he didn't seem to know what to do on the pitch, but now he's starting to click with the rest of the team.

its all about confidence mate. at the start he couldent hold the ball. on Saturday he was flicking the ball over the city players head. the lad has talent. now we are starting to see it. Thumbs up

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Re: Roberto Firmino: Another Round of Brazilliance

Post by Helmer on Sun Nov 22, 2015 11:13 pm

why is it always difficult for me to find a thread using search of GL Mad

anyways, I am so much enjoying watching Firmino right now. About holding the ball, he cant hold the ball like a striker does but he just picks it up for a second, protect it and give it to a free teammate. He did that so many times and brilliantly. I am sure that was how it was planned, amazing stuff :bow:

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Post by Unique on Mon Nov 23, 2015 12:15 am

@Helmer wrote:why is it always difficult for me to find a thread using search of GL Mad

anyways, I am so much enjoying watching Firmino right now. About holding the ball, he cant hold the ball like a striker does but he just picks it up for a second, protect it and give it to a free teammate. He did that so many times and brilliantly. I am sure that was how it was planned, amazing stuff :bow:
yeah mate I get what your saying. but at the start he was to slow when he got the ball. he was always under pressure when he got the ball. but that's to be expected he was new to the lge. but I like the way he didn't drop his head. that's why I think markovic will never make it. he lets things get him down.

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Re: Roberto Firmino: Another Round of Brazilliance

Post by Art Morte on Mon Nov 23, 2015 9:16 am

It'll be interesting to see what our line-up is going to be in attack in the next few games. I think Benteke would have been fit to start against City, but Klopp just opted for Firmino, which is a surprise in itself. Now there's Sturridge coming back, too.

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Re: Roberto Firmino: Another Round of Brazilliance

Post by Nishankly on Mon Nov 23, 2015 9:28 am

Firmino upfront again, We've played as striker against Chelsea and City and we've won 3-1 and 4-1 respectively.

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Re: Roberto Firmino: Another Round of Brazilliance

Post by Helmer on Mon Nov 23, 2015 9:52 am

well it is simple, the strategy is to create 'clear cut and quality' chances when Firmino plays upfront ! I think Where as against Palace, the quality of our chances when Benteke played up front was not so good, almost all were half chances.

That was hilarious when Ibe played Benteke clear through and Benteke was moving like a lump and could not finish that chance !

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Re: Roberto Firmino: Another Round of Brazilliance

Post by Red Alert on Mon Nov 23, 2015 11:02 am

He's not replacing Suarez but he's quality. So glad to see him have more of a free role and he can roam. Wasted under Rodgers.

@Helmer wrote:well it is simple, the strategy is to create 'clear cut and quality' chances when Firmino plays upfront ! I think Where as against Palace, the quality of our chances when Benteke played up front was not so good, almost all were half chances.

That was hilarious when Ibe played Benteke clear through and Benteke was moving like a lump and could not finish that chance !


To be fair, Benteke played that right as he played to his strengths. If he ran off and tried to break the lines he would of A) been offside 'cause he would of had to start his run way earlier and B) he most likely would of lost control of the ball / Mangala (or whichever defender it was now I forget) would of ran him down. Instead, he slowed down, pushed the defender off to get that extra space and unfortunately Hart made a good save.

@Unique wrote:yeah mate I get what your saying. but at the start he was to slow when he got the ball. he was always under pressure when he got the ball. but that's to be expected he was new to the lge. but I like the way he didn't drop his head. that's why I think markovic will never make it. he lets things get him down.


No he wasn't.

He was adapting to a new country / lifestyle, new league, and was mismanaged being played out of position. He was always going to under perform. He can still barely speak English... lmao.

Markovic was never going to make it under Rodgers. I still stand by what I said and state that it was a stupid signing but he DOES have talent. He'll perform under Klopp if given the chance.

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