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Re: Copa América 2015

Post by Casciavit on Sun Jul 05, 2015 1:20 am

Have to give it to Sampaoli, Chile looked much better than Arg during the game. Set up his team amazingly well in terms of defending against Leo. His team talk pre-shootout must have worked wonders too, considering the players had a cocky swagger and were extremely confident while Argentina and Masche were crying.

Deserved win.

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Re: Copa América 2015

Post by breva on Sun Jul 05, 2015 1:20 am

Maradona is Maradona, only Pele is comparable. Messi is a great player, but no Maradona (or Pele). In a game like this Maradona would have had the ball nearly continuously until an Argentina goal was scored. Sanchez, though much less talented than Maradona, looked more like Maradona in this game.
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Re: Copa América 2015

Post by breva on Sun Jul 05, 2015 1:22 am

@Lord Awesome wrote:Messi is a bit more skilled than Maradona, I think. Maradona just had more mental ability, tho. Mainly tenacity. That's the real difference between the 2, really. I still consider Messi Argentna's all time best tho.


Maradona was far more talented than Messi is today. He also displayed his talent with defenders that took no prisoners and could foul at will.
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Re: Copa América 2015

Post by ahmad25 on Sun Jul 05, 2015 1:30 am

@breva wrote:Maradona is Maradona, only Pele is comparable. Messi is a great player, but no Maradona (or Pele). In a game like this Maradona would have had the ball nearly continuously until an Argentina goal was scored. Sanchez, though much less talented than Maradona, looked more like Maradona in this game.
that why maradona never won copa america? "He would had the ball untill argentina scored" Laughing
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Re: Copa América 2015

Post by jibers on Sun Jul 05, 2015 1:32 am

@Casciavit wrote:Have to give it to Sampaoli, Chile looked much better than Arg during the game. Set up his team amazingly well in terms of defending against Leo. His team talk pre-shootout must have worked wonders too, considering the players had a cocky swagger and were extremely confident while Argentina and Masche were crying.

Deserved win.


Agreed. Argentina should sack Tata and try and to hire him.

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Re: Copa América 2015

Post by Lord Awesome on Sun Jul 05, 2015 1:39 am

The real MVP is the guy who decided to spare Vidal his punishment. Laughing

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Re: Copa América 2015

Post by guest_07 on Sun Jul 05, 2015 1:45 am

@guest_07 wrote:can messi repeat what riquelme have done to claudio bravo & his gang in almost single handedly manner despite did not played any official match for several months?

riquelme vs chile, 2010 wc qualifying:





i still waiting the answer for this.....................

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Re: Copa América 2015

Post by RealGunner on Sun Jul 05, 2015 2:02 am

Answer is no

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Re: Copa América 2015

Post by guest_07 on Sun Jul 05, 2015 2:12 am

@RealGunner wrote:Answer is no



thanks for the answer, rg

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Re: Copa América 2015

Post by RealGunner on Sun Jul 05, 2015 2:17 am

It's okay

Wish questions like these came up in my exams

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Re: Copa América 2015

Post by guest_07 on Sun Jul 05, 2015 2:18 am

@RealGunner wrote:It's okay

Wish questions like these came up in my exams



lol

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Re: Copa América 2015

Post by guest_07 on Sun Jul 05, 2015 2:48 am

which performance was better?

messi vs chile, 2015 copa america final



or

riquelme vs brazil, 2007 copa america final


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Re: Copa América 2015

Post by DeviAngel on Sun Jul 05, 2015 2:49 am

@guest_07 wrote:which performance was better?

messi vs chile, 2015 copa america final



or

riquelme vs brazil, 2007 copa america final



If I say Riquelme would you stop comparing him with Messi Very Happy ?

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Re: Copa América 2015

Post by guest_07 on Sun Jul 05, 2015 2:50 am

@DeviAngel wrote:
@guest_07 wrote:which performance was better?

messi vs chile, 2015 copa america final



or

riquelme vs brazil, 2007 copa america final



If I say Riquelme would you stop comparing him with Messi Very Happy ?


lol, probably not Smile

in order to be the best , we should compare them with the best

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Re: Copa América 2015

Post by titosantill on Sun Jul 05, 2015 3:15 am

its a bit ridiculous to compare two losing finalists, what is there to compare? who played worse?
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Re: Copa América 2015

Post by DeviAngel on Sun Jul 05, 2015 3:16 am

@guest_07 wrote:
@DeviAngel wrote:
@guest_07 wrote:which performance was better?

messi vs chile, 2015 copa america final



or

riquelme vs brazil, 2007 copa america final



If I say Riquelme would you stop comparing him with Messi Very Happy ?


lol, probably not Smile

in order to be the best , we should compare them with the best

peace


I was joking mate, two different years, philosophies, team, etc. You can never ever compare two matches Smile

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Re: Copa América 2015

Post by guest_07 on Sun Jul 05, 2015 3:26 am

@titosantill wrote:its a bit ridiculous to compare two losing finalists, what is there to compare? who played worse?


to show who played better despite his team lose

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Re: Copa América 2015

Post by titosantill on Sun Jul 05, 2015 3:32 am

this Argentina problem is probably mental. in my opinion their fans should consider it a disgrace they didn't win, the worst Brazil side in years, a depleted Uruguay, there's no excuse. and on paper this is probably one of the best Argentine sides, a lot of top players at top clubs but they mostly look human for their national team. aguero has been a shadow of himself for argentina, higuain smh (although lets be fair, had higuain scored that chance he got and they won, he'd probably not get any praise, people will probably put up messi's "dribble" stats), tevez? that tevez gets ignored for argentina is a mystery, the guy's attitude is probably what they need when everyone is so lukewarm



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Re: Copa América 2015

Post by titosantill on Sun Jul 05, 2015 3:34 am

there is no need to show who played better in a loss imo. a loss is a loss, you don't win the silver, you lose the gold
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Re: Copa América 2015

Post by Cruijf on Sun Jul 05, 2015 3:37 am

Putting on Higuain was a stupid move in a long list of stupid moves by Tata. You're struggle to create anything and you put on a poacher?

Not to mention his history of choking.

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Re: Copa América 2015

Post by breva on Sun Jul 05, 2015 3:44 am

@ahmad25 wrote:
@breva wrote:Maradona is Maradona, only Pele is comparable. Messi is a great player, but no Maradona (or Pele). In a game like this Maradona would have had the ball nearly continuously until an Argentina goal was scored. Sanchez, though much less talented than Maradona, looked more like Maradona in this game.
that why maradona never won copa america? "He would had the ball untill argentina scored" Laughing


Every player has bad games nobody is unstoppable


How does the fact that Maradona's Argentina didn't win a Copa America (they won a World Cup after all) affect my point that Maradona would have had the ball nearly continuously until Argentina scored a goal? I am trying to understand the point you are making.
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Re: Copa América 2015

Post by guest_07 on Sun Jul 05, 2015 3:45 am

@titosantill wrote:there is no need to show who played better in a loss imo. a loss is a loss, you don't win the silver, you lose the gold


when you evaluate some player, you need to, unless you only concern about trophy

no trophy, no football ( if that's what you want to apply here)

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Re: Copa América 2015

Post by jibers on Sun Jul 05, 2015 3:45 am

For me Riquelme is more complete than Messi (:

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Re: Copa América 2015

Post by Casciavit on Sun Jul 05, 2015 3:49 am

Messi is a smart player, but I really am surprised as to why he refused to change up his game when it clearly wasn't working. Chile were making sure his back was facing the goal and when he did regain his balance and faced forward they slide tackled the ball off him.

Should have switched it up with off the ball runs or stay wide and actually play as a winger.

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Re: Copa América 2015

Post by Ganso on Sun Jul 05, 2015 3:50 am

Valdivia asked a minute of silence for Argentina at the celebrations Laughing you legend
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Re: Copa América 2015

Post by guest_07 on Sun Jul 05, 2015 3:51 am

@jibers wrote:For me Riquelme is more complete than Messi (:


for me, riquelme actually a combination of xavi + iniesta + messi

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