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Best Performances in Euro and Copa America.

Post by Harmonica on Thu Jul 09, 2015 5:50 am

Copa America MVP (1916-2015)

Goals
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CA15 Messi (arg) 10 (1 + 3 + 6) out of 10 team goals = 100% importance (+2 SO goals), runner-up
CA11 Suarez (uru) 6 (4 + 2 + 0) out of 9 team goals = 67% importance (+1 SO goal), champion
CA07 Robinho (bra) 10 (6 + 0 + 4) out of 15 team goals = 67% importance (+1 SO goal), champion
CA04 Adriano (bra) 9 (7 + 2 + 0) out of 13 team goals = 69% importance (+2 SO goals), champion
CA01 Guevara (hon) 5 (3 + 1 + 1) out of 7 team goals = 71% importance, 3rd
CA99 Rivaldo (bra) 8 (5 + 2 + 1) out of 17 team goals = 47% importance, champion
CA97 Ronaldo (bra) 9 (5 + 2 + 2) out of 22 team goals = 41% importance, champion
CA95 Francescoli (uru) 6 (2 + 1 + 3) out of 11 team goals = 55% importance (+1 SO goal), champion
CA93 Goycochea (arg) goalie, champion
CA91 Rodriguez (arg) 9 (0 + 6 + 3) out of 16 team goals = 56% importance, champion
CA89 Sosa (uru) 7 (4 + 2 + 1) out of 11 team goals = 64% importance, runner-up
CA87 Valderrama (col) 7 (1 + 3 + 3) out of 8 team goals = 88% importance, 3rd

Euro Best Player (1996-2012)

Goals (Scored + Assisted + Involved)

Euro12 Iniesta (spa) 7 (0 + 2 + 5) out of 12 team goals = 58% importance (+1 SO goal), champion
Euro08 Xavi (spa) 5 ( 1 + 2 + 2) out of 12 team goals = 42% importance, champion
Euro04 Zagorakis (gre) 1 (0 + 1 + 0) out of 7 team goals = dm, champion
Euro00 Zidane (fra) 6 (2 + 1 + 3) out of 13 team goals = 46% importance, champion
Euro96 Sammer (ger) 3 (2 + 1 + 0) out of 10 team goals = dm, champion

Copa America/Euro Others

Goals (Scored + Assisted + Involved)

CA07 Riquelme (arg) 13 (5 + 3 + 5) out of 16 team goals = 81% importance, runner-up
CA07 Messi (arg) 8 (2 + 3 + 3) out of 16 team goals = 50% importance, runner-up (Best Young Player)
Euro92 Schmeichel (den) goalie, champion
Euro92 Larsen (den) 3 (3 + 0 + 0) out of 6 team goals = 50% importance (+1 SO goal), champion
Euro88 Van Basten (ned) 7 (5 + 2 + 0) out of 8 team goals = 88% importance, champion
Euro84 Platini (fra) 11 (9 + 1 + 1) out of 14 team goals = 79% importance, champion
Euro80 Schuster (ger) 4 (0 + 3 + 1) out of 6 team goals = 67% importance, champion
Euro76 Bonhof (ger) 4 (0 + 4 + 0) out of 6 team goals = 67% importance (+1 SO goal), runner-up
Euro76 D.Müller (ger) 4 (4 + 0 + 0) out of 6 team goals = 67% importance, runner-up
Euro72 G.Müller (ger) 4 (4 + 0 + 0) out of 5 team goals = 80% importance, champion



Some additional statistics compared to CA15/Euro12 as these are only two tournaments with OPTA-statistics.

Name - Goals - Chances Created - Dribbles - Tackles

Messi CA15 - 1 - 14 - 43 - 6
Iniesta Euro12 - 0 - 5 - 12 - 7

I will collect these statistics and go through as much of the Copa as there's matches on video, and then move to Euro.


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Re: Best Performances in Euro and Copa America.

Post by McLewis on Thu Jul 09, 2015 5:52 am

Didn't know you could actually quantify importance. You learn something new every day Laughing

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Re: Best Performances in Euro and Copa America.

Post by zigra on Thu Jul 09, 2015 6:23 am

100% importance hmm


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Re: Best Performances in Euro and Copa America.

Post by Harmonica on Thu Jul 09, 2015 6:29 am

Added

Goals (Scored + Assisted + Involved)

CA89 Sosa (uru) 7 (4 + 2 + 1) out of 11 team goals = 64% importance, runner-up
CA87 Valderrama (col) 7 (1 + 3 + 3) out of 8 team goals = 88% importance, 3rd

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Re: Best Performances in Euro and Copa America.

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Re: Best Performances in Euro and Copa America.

Post by rwo power on Thu Jul 09, 2015 6:43 am

@Harmonica wrote:Copa America MVP
CA15 Messi (arg) 10 (1 + 3 + 6) out of 10 team goals = 100% importance (+2 SO goals), runner-up
CA11 Suarez (uru) 6 (4 + 2 + 0) out of 9 team goals = 67% importance (+1 SO goal), champion
CA07 Robinho (bra) 10 (6 + 0 + 4) out of 15 team goals = 67% importance (+1 SO goal), champion
CA04 Adriano (bra) 9 (7 + 2 + 0) out of 13 team goals = 69% importance (+2 SO goals), champion
100% important to become runner-up :bow:


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Re: Best Performances in Euro and Copa America.

Post by Highburied on Thu Jul 09, 2015 6:44 am

LOL

Thanks for your effort.

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Re: Best Performances in Euro and Copa America.

Post by Harmonica on Thu Jul 09, 2015 6:57 am

@rwo power wrote:
@Harmonica wrote:Copa America MVP
CA15 Messi (arg) 10 (1 + 3 + 6) out of 10 team goals = 100% importance (+2 SO goals), runner-up
CA11 Suarez (uru) 6 (4 + 2 + 0) out of 9 team goals = 67% importance (+1 SO goal), champion
CA07 Robinho (bra) 10 (6 + 0 + 4) out of 15 team goals = 67% importance (+1 SO goal), champion
CA04 Adriano (bra) 9 (7 + 2 + 0) out of 13 team goals = 69% importance (+2 SO goals), champion
100% important to become runner-up :bow:
Well, would have been 100% of champion if Lavezzi or Higuain finished the last chance. That's how football is a team game.

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Re: Best Performances in Euro and Copa America.

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Re: Best Performances in Euro and Copa America.

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Thu Jul 09, 2015 7:39 am

100% needs a GF.

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Re: Best Performances in Euro and Copa America.

Post by El Gunner on Thu Jul 09, 2015 8:01 am

No offense, but how old is Harmonica? Laughing

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Re: Best Performances in Euro and Copa America.

Post by M99 on Thu Jul 09, 2015 9:26 am

You gotta know something is wrong when literally everyone is laughing at this.

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Re: Best Performances in Euro and Copa America.

Post by Harmonica on Thu Jul 09, 2015 10:39 am

Added Iniesta.

Euro Best Player

Goals (Scored + Assisted + Involved)

Euro12 Iniesta (spa) 7 (0 + 2 + 5) out of 12 team goals = 58% importance (+1 SO goal), champion

Some additional statistics compared to Messi as these are only two tournaments with OPTA-statistics.

Name - Goals - Chances Created - Dribbles - Tackles

Messi CA15 - 1 - 14 - 43 - 6
Iniesta Euro12 - 0 - 5 - 12 - 7

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Re: Best Performances in Euro and Copa America.

Post by titosantill on Thu Jul 09, 2015 10:55 am

goodness gracious, rofl here we go again, "importance percentages", this is too much.....what are we going to start calculating next? "successful dribbles" in the last ten minutes of the game, "passes to shots that hit the crossbar", "dribbles completed in high temperatures"? :facepalm:
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Re: Best Performances in Euro and Copa America.

Post by Uncanny on Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:13 am

60% of the time works every time hmm
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Re: Best Performances in Euro and Copa America.

Post by terrance511 on Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:25 am

that meant it also 100% on him for being runner up? hmm

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Re: Best Performances in Euro and Copa America.

Post by Donuts on Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:26 am

i like this thread.

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Re: Best Performances in Euro and Copa America.

Post by Curtinho on Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:27 am

I like the 'involved' statistic. Tell me more about this one (as it seems to be the only way Messi stands out in production from the rest). Why does making a run off the ball to draw a defender away, but not actually touching the ball, not count as involved? What about the threat of a bite from Suarez on the defence keeping them from closing down space?

Every player on the pitch is involved all the time really. :coffee:

So clearly Messi was not as good this Copa as Suarez was last time around. 4 goals, 2 assists and champions >>> 1 goal, 3 assists as runners up. Especially since Argentina had a much better team too.

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Re: Best Performances in Euro and Copa America.

Post by Harmonica on Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:31 am

El Cujo wrote:I like the 'involved' statistic. Tell me more about this one
Involved in attacking move directly by passing or dribbling. As an example Messi was more important in Di Maria's goals collectively, but Di Maria registered 2 goals, and Messi didn't register even an assist.


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Re: Best Performances in Euro and Copa America.

Post by Donuts on Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:32 am

harmonica keep fighting the good fight don't let anyone turn you away!

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Re: Best Performances in Euro and Copa America.

Post by Valkyrja on Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:34 am

@El Gunner wrote:No offense, but how old is Harmonica? Laughing

He watched Maradona play, so probably around 40

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Re: Best Performances in Euro and Copa America.

Post by Harmonica on Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:35 am


@Donuts wrote:harmonica keep fighting the good fight don't let anyone turn you away!
It's not really a fight, but thread for recording database of performance's in football history. It should also educate people of the team game that is football too.

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Re: Best Performances in Euro and Copa America.

Post by Curtinho on Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:39 am

There is more to a goal than the direct pass leading up to the goal, or a dribble. Players on both sides are totally involved.

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Re: Best Performances in Euro and Copa America.

Post by Harmonica on Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:57 am

Added Xavi Euro08.

Euro08 Xavi (spa) 5 ( 1 + 2 + 2) out of 12 team goals = 42% importance, champion

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Re: Best Performances in Euro and Copa America.

Post by Kaladin on Thu Jul 09, 2015 11:58 am

@Donuts wrote:i like this thread.


When did you change your avatar to Bale, Donuts hmm

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