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Post by Doc on Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:02 pm

It's not a bad idea but it clearly was an idea that was not part of his initial thoughts. In my own cynical point of view, I think after he saw us actually put down a good performance vs Redbull, he is now going with a 3 man backline. Don't mind we are only equipped for a 2 man backline for an entire season.

I expect another CB signing or at least a loan option.

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Post by futbol_bill on Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:13 pm

@Mr Nick09 wrote:what the fuck is he doing playing with a 3 man backline, we dont even have enough CBs to sustainably do that



Calma Lol, it’s preseason, he’s experimenting.

You criticize him for no tactics, nothing new, borrowing formations, tactics from Ancelotti and Mourinho! So for once he has used his futbol head to try something different and you criticize him for that!!
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Post by sportsczy on Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:18 pm

welll..... we look terrible lol.

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Post by sportsczy on Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:19 pm

But it's perfect for Marcelo...

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Post by Perucho21 on Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:20 pm

Nacho has regressed immensely. Walking traffic cone

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Post by sportsczy on Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:25 pm

Carvajal and Nacho are literally horrible now...

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Post by Thimmy on Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:36 pm

Perotti goal..

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Post by sportsczy on Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:37 pm

Nacho with that stupid risky charge up opened it up... literally all our problems defensively are down to Nacho lol. He's been that bad all preseason.

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:39 pm

i dont see what Zidane thinks he is improving by playing 3 at the back, shape is just as bad

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Post by sportsczy on Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:40 pm

Nacho is the problem, not the shape. He should be banned from playing.

Carvajal is playing horribly too.

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Post by Thimmy on Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:41 pm

Casemiro header 2-1 Madrid. Brilliant cross by Marcelo.

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Post by Thimmy on Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:42 pm

Dzeko 2-2 Jeez

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Post by Doc on Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:46 pm

I mean, Eriksen and De Beek cannot come soon enough tbh. And we really gave up Llorente to keep Valverde who does and/or brings nothing notable.

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Post by sportsczy on Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:46 pm

It still comes down to the midfield and corner defense.  Guys have too much time and space to pick the pass or cross.  Doesn't matter much who's defending the box when the guys making the final pass have so much freedom. We need to pressure the ball a WHOLE LOT better.


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Post by halamadrid2 on Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:46 pm

Imagine going into the s3ason even remotely thinking 34 year old Modric is starting material .

Where has Valverde been while Roma has ran over our midfield. Rubbish

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Post by Doc on Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:49 pm

@halamadrid2 wrote:Imagine going into the s3ason even remotely thinking 34 year old Modric is starting material .

Where has Valverde been while Roma has ran over our midfield. Rubbish

I do not know what exactly is Valverde's role at the moment. He isn't helping in attack nor is he covering anyone. He's just...there. Do I blame Zizou for that or is it on the young man? Just so confused at the moment.

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:50 pm

Zidane has not done anything productive this off season

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Post by Doc on Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:52 pm

I wouldn't say that. He helped strengthen Atletico by green lighting the sale of both Llorente and Hermoso. That's productivity right there. He also helped strengthen the resolve of the Utd board while chasing Pogba.

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Post by halamadrid2 on Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:52 pm

Marcelo has been excellent yet again. Too bad Nacho and the midfielders bar Casemiro have been rubbish. Varane is getting owned by Dzeko so badly. Militao poor on both goals. He needs to move to Marcelo's side ffs

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Post by Robespierre on Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:59 pm

Christ, after this 1st half Roma aren't going to give us Dzeko anymore

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Post by Thimmy on Sun Aug 11, 2019 8:01 pm

It doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things, as of yet, but I've been disappointed in Militao's performance so far. He's lost his marker more than I'm comfortable with, and hasn't timed his headers very well. Obviously, the rest of our defence haven't been good either.

In contrast, Man United's Wan Bissaka has looked like an absolute brick wall since pre-season. I'd never imagined he'd be as reliable defensively, as he has been. He must be a nightmare to play against. Never lets anything go past him.


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Post by rincon on Sun Aug 11, 2019 8:09 pm

Is the ship steady?
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Post by Freeza on Sun Aug 11, 2019 8:17 pm

@Thimmy wrote:It doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things, as of yet, but I've been disappointed in Militao's performance so far. He's lost his marker more than I'm comfortable with, and hasn't timed his headers very well. Obviously, the rest of our defence haven't been good either.

In contrast, Man United's Wan Bissaka has looked like an absolute brick wall since pre-season. I'd never imagined he'd be as reliable defensively, as he has been. He must be a nightmare to play against. Never lets anything go past him.



Also in contrast,

They play different positions.

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Post by Thimmy on Sun Aug 11, 2019 8:20 pm

@Freeza wrote:
@Thimmy wrote:It doesn't mean much in the grand scheme of things, as of yet, but I've been disappointed in Militao's performance so far. He's lost his marker more than I'm comfortable with, and hasn't timed his headers very well. Obviously, the rest of our defence haven't been good either.

In contrast, Man United's Wan Bissaka has looked like an absolute brick wall since pre-season. I'd never imagined he'd be as reliable defensively, as he has been. He must be a nightmare to play against. Never lets anything go past him.



Also in contrast,

They play different positions.


I am aware of that hmm They're both new, defensive acquisitions by their respective teams, and our RB has been a weak point for some time now. Regardless of their positions, from what I can tell so far, Wan Bissaka is much faster and looks substantially more solid 1v1.

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Sun Aug 11, 2019 8:42 pm

@sportsczy wrote:Nacho is the problem, not the shape.


Agreed. Shape looks good AFAIK

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Post by halamadrid2 on Sun Aug 11, 2019 8:55 pm

Vinicious for the love of God. Practice shots. He is so good. The final ball is sorely lacking however

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