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Post by Valkyrja on Tue May 03, 2016 1:08 pm

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sign him up Embarassed

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Re: Dani Ceballos and Jesus Vallejo

Post by rincon on Tue May 03, 2016 3:04 pm

Praising a kid for calling Catalans and Basques dogs and wishing to bomb them :facepalm:

Comments like that should get you suspended from playing for the national team.
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Post by titosantill on Tue May 03, 2016 3:50 pm

sign him up cos of those two reckless tackles? then we'll have ramos getting sent off one week, and him getting sent off in another? we already have our hands full with ramos' rubbish
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Re: Dani Ceballos and Jesus Vallejo

Post by Valkyrja on Tue May 03, 2016 4:42 pm

@titosantill wrote:sign him up cos of those two reckless tackles? then we'll have ramos getting sent off one week, and him getting sent off in another? we already have our hands full with ramos' rubbish


I absolutely love Ramos.

#teamCeballos Proud

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Re: Dani Ceballos and Jesus Vallejo

Post by guest7 on Sat Sep 02, 2017 10:00 pm

How is Ceballos injury? Heard he got injured
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Post by Freeza on Sat Sep 02, 2017 10:16 pm

@guest7 wrote:How is Ceballos injury? Heard he got injured


Concussion

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Post by Valkyrja on Sat Sep 23, 2017 7:03 pm

A star was born today. Now im waiting for future captain Vallejo to make his debut Proud

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Re: Dani Ceballos and Jesus Vallejo

Post by Adit on Wed Apr 18, 2018 4:17 am

Are we really going to sell him?

I am actually very much impressed by ceballos . He has been nothing short of great in the limited time he got on the pitch this season.

Zidane has been pretty pathetic when it comes to dealing him.

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Wed Apr 18, 2018 4:37 am

I dont know in what form, whether loan, sell, or sell with buy back, but i think yes he will be out of the team next summer.

He was always a poor fit for the type of schemes we play and the number of stars we have in the team so not surprising it did not work out.

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Post by The Madrid One on Wed Apr 18, 2018 5:03 am

I don't think he will or should be sold as the jury (as far as i know) is still out on him. I was expecting good things from him but Zidane has done his best to make it seem like he doesn't exist and he also hasn't met my expectations during the little he has played. I'm guessing he's been bang average in Zidane's eyes in training. Was brought in to be a CM successor of Modric, if he was good enough creatively and technically he'd have enough without being a physical marvel imo, but alas.

I wish Llorente doesn't get sold, in any case i personally see in Federico Valverde someone more talented that Kovacic, Ceballos, or Llorente, so it's good to make space in case Valverde follows through.

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Post by Doc on Wed Apr 18, 2018 5:50 am

Valverde is in the same position Ceballos is in i.e there are more talented and experienced players ahead of them. I don't want either to be sold but Ceballos needs playing time, so does Valverde and they certainly won't get it in this version of Madrid.

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Re: Dani Ceballos and Jesus Vallejo

Post by futbol_bill on Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:14 pm

I don’t like defending Zidane, but the case of Ceballos and his lack of playing time is largely a result of an overstocked midfield. Dani is behind, Modric, Kroos, Isco, Kovacic, Asensio. That’s just too many to give a young talent opportunities. Nick is right when he said in another thread that club should have had him stay with Betis or some other loan. That plus the fact that club has 5 other kids begging for game time gave Zidane an impossible task.

All that said, the situation won’t change for next year, other than supposedly they will have less kids on squad next season.

So what’s best for Ceballos (and club actually) is lending him out to give him playing time. I would be really shocked if it is a sale, although it could be a sale with a buyback (today’s more practical version of loan deals). There also is a financial or business aspect of this! Zidane has kept Ceballos under radar this year which means his talents are not widely known (and thus low interest in him). So loaning or sale with buyback means as he has more playing time and develops so does his market interest and value. Club then in a couple of years has the choice of bringing a talent, hopefully experienced back to the club at a low price or selling him for a profit!

As to the other kids, Llorente not only is going, he is likely a straight sale given he is now 23. There’s not a lot of upside there. And Zidane consistently prefers Kroos or Kovacic when Casemiro is not available. I agree with MTO that Fede is a more talented option at some point.

The 2 unnecessary promotions (Achraf and Majoral) are likely gone. Given they are young, club will likely loan them out.

That leaves Theo and Vallejo. Theo I believe stays while a definite decision hasn’t yet been made re Vallejo. Biggest issues here are who do they get in his place and his ‘injury prone’ tag. IMO, if he continues to get the game time he recently got, he may well be retained for next season.
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Re: Dani Ceballos and Jesus Vallejo

Post by FalcaoPunch on Wed Apr 18, 2018 3:45 pm

@Doc wrote:Valverde is in the same position Ceballos is in i.e there are more talented and experienced players ahead of them. I don't want either to be sold but Ceballos needs playing time, so does Valverde and they certainly won't get it in this version of Madrid.


valverde is a double agent hmm

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Post by futbol_bill on Wed Apr 18, 2018 4:33 pm

I don't think Fede is anywhere close to coming back to Madrid. I just made the statement that Fede has more upside than Llorente. They are likely selling Llorente and leaving the backup (behind Casemiro) position empty instead maintaining what they have done past 2 years, use Kroos or Kovacic when needed.
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