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Post by Hapless_Hans on Tue Aug 04, 2015 4:30 pm

Disclaimer: Haven't ever really seen him play. My interest in watching Everton, awoken by their late 2013 win at Old Trafford, faded after Moyes got sacked as Utd manager. Just thought I'd make this thread as a peace offering to the Dear Leader.

Anyway, one can hear great things about this kid. For now, this quote suffices to let me hop onboard :bow:

Daniel Taylor wrote:Stones is undoubtedly a grade-A player in the making, a potential England international for the next 10 years, and if Luke Shaw was worth £30m a year ago and Raheem Sterling is now valued at £49m, Everton are fully entitled to think Chelsea have come in pretty low.
http://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2015/aug/01/john-stones-everton-chelsea-right-price

Thoughts?

What will his future bring?

Should he move?

If so, where? Manchester United, or Chelsea? I.e., the devil or the deep blue sea?

Would he look good in Lederhosen?

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Re: John Stones Watch

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Tue Aug 04, 2015 4:36 pm

He should stay but he is THAT good.

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Post by Jay29 on Tue Aug 04, 2015 5:07 pm

The guy barely has 50 appearances in the Premier League. He absolutely needs to stay at Everton right now.

He probably is the best young centre back England have at the moment, but he gets extra hype for being a ball-playing defender. That's where the Ferdinand comparisons come from. Unfortunately, he has a bad habit of hanging onto the ball for too long and overplaying a bit, and can be caught out.

Chelsea, United and City will be his options if he develops well.
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Post by Hapless_Hans on Tue Aug 04, 2015 5:09 pm

Why not Arsenal?

Would be better for the English NT too if he can gel with his the majority of his England teammates in everyday club football hmm

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Re: John Stones Watch

Post by Don't call me James on Tue Aug 04, 2015 5:10 pm

Ilori >>>

But I rate him quite highly, one of the very few Everton players I rate.

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Tue Aug 04, 2015 5:11 pm

Who is Ilori?

Sorry, honest question.

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Post by Jay29 on Tue Aug 04, 2015 5:12 pm

Why not Arsenal?

We've already got Calum Chambers, and likely wouldn't be willing to spend £30mil+ on a centre back unless Wenger rates him really, really, really highly.
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Post by Hapless_Hans on Tue Aug 04, 2015 5:13 pm

Is Chambers planned as a CB?

If I remember right, even in midst a central defense crisis situation Wenger played Monreal there last season while Chambers was used to fill in at RB? hmm

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Post by Jay29 on Tue Aug 04, 2015 5:17 pm

He's going to be a centre back now because of Bellerin. It's his best position, anyway.

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Tue Aug 04, 2015 5:18 pm

Would you have preferred to get Stones over Chambers (availability/money aside) ?
I.e. who do you think is better?

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Post by Sri on Tue Aug 04, 2015 5:45 pm

Chambers >>>>

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Post by Art Morte on Tue Aug 04, 2015 5:51 pm

Stones is overrated, hoping he goes to ManU to continue their tradition of buying promising English center-backs who never seem to come quite as good as expected.
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Post by Don't call me James on Tue Aug 04, 2015 6:01 pm

@Hapless_Hans wrote:Who is Ilori?

Sorry, honest question.




Porbably second best CB at Liverpool behind Sakho, if only Rodgers wasn't in loved with Skrtel or Lovren.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Tue Aug 04, 2015 6:13 pm

@Art Morte wrote:Stones is overrated, hoping he goes to ManU to continue their tradition of buying promising English center-backs who never seem to come quite as good as expected.


Says the guy who rates Leroy Fer and Steven Caulker. (:

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Post by Curtinho on Tue Aug 04, 2015 6:38 pm

Fer is a good player.

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Re: John Stones Watch

Post by Onyx on Tue Aug 04, 2015 6:44 pm

John Rock >>> hmm

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Tue Aug 04, 2015 6:44 pm

Just like Colback is i suppose? amirite.

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Post by Curtinho on Tue Aug 04, 2015 7:08 pm

No Fer is actually a good player.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Tue Aug 04, 2015 7:13 pm

Good players don't get relegated two seasons running and have absolutely zero impact while the team goes to shit i'm afraid.

He's crap.

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Re: John Stones Watch

Post by Hapless_Hans on Tue Aug 04, 2015 7:50 pm

@Don't call me James wrote:
@Hapless_Hans wrote:Who is Ilori?

Sorry, honest question.




Porbably second best CB at Liverpool behind Sakho, if only Rodgers wasn't in loved with Skrtel or Lovren.


Ok, thanks.

How many games has he played for Liverpool?

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Post by Don't call me James on Tue Aug 04, 2015 7:54 pm

Loaned out the last 2 seasons to Granada and Bordeaux. He's a bit injury but otherwise is yet to make his debut for us outside of friendlies.

This summer was a good chance for him to get a shot at the starting XI in preseason but his wife had a kid and he was at the U21 Euros so missed the whole preseason :facepalm:

Anyways I've seen enough of him to know he's better than donkeys like Skrtel and Lovren.

Sakho is very clearly our best CB but Rodgers has him playing second fiddle to Lovren so with that idiot in charge not playing doesn't really tell much about a players quality.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Tue Aug 04, 2015 7:55 pm

In other words he's an overrated kid who won't amount to anything (:

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Re: John Stones Watch

Post by Unique on Tue Aug 04, 2015 7:59 pm

@Hapless_Hans wrote:Who is Ilori?

Sorry, honest question.
@Art Morte wrote:Stones is overrated, hoping he goes to ManU to continue their tradition of buying promising English center-backs who never seem to come quite as good as expected.
I thought jones was gonna turn out a good player. made of blu-tac though

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Post by Don't call me James on Tue Aug 04, 2015 8:01 pm

Gtfo Moal, you couldn't spot talent if it slapped you in the face a la David Brent.

Hans, check out his thread in our section

http://www.goallegacy.net/t32651-tiago-ilori

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Post by Unique on Tue Aug 04, 2015 8:02 pm

@Hapless_Hans wrote:
@Don't call me James wrote:
@Hapless_Hans wrote:Who is Ilori?

Sorry, honest question.




Porbably second best CB at Liverpool behind Sakho, if only Rodgers wasn't in loved with Skrtel or Lovren.


Ok, thanks.

How many games has he played for Liverpool?
hardly any. at the time we signed him he was classed as a very good up and coming cb. lots of teams were looking at him. but like lots of others before him. didn't turn out as good as first thought. another player that don't fit well in the EPL.

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