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Re: Why doesn't Benzema leave Madrid?

Post by sportsczy on Sun Aug 09, 2015 7:32 pm

again, which CFs have performed better since 2010-2011 in terms of scoring and assists... anyone want to take a guess? Laughing

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Re: Why doesn't Benzema leave Madrid?

Post by Mr Nick09 on Sun Aug 09, 2015 7:37 pm

Well let me take a guess...Gomis?

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Re: Why doesn't Benzema leave Madrid?

Post by sportsczy on Sun Aug 09, 2015 7:38 pm

I'll start with Benz.
Goals since 2010-2011 (all comps):
-30
-35
-20
-33
-23
Assists:
- 9
- 17
- 19
- 19
- 15

http://www.footballdatabase.eu/football.joueurs.karim.benzema.11490.en.html

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Re: Why doesn't Benzema leave Madrid?

Post by sportsczy on Sun Aug 09, 2015 7:38 pm

Don't let facts get in the way of your arguments Laughing

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Re: Why doesn't Benzema leave Madrid?

Post by Mr Nick09 on Sun Aug 09, 2015 7:48 pm

Can you put those numbers up against Henry's? im sure Benzema has better stats, then try to convince us he is a better player too, just for the kicks

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Re: Why doesn't Benzema leave Madrid?

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Sun Aug 09, 2015 7:50 pm

Henry got more than 20 assists once no you can't hmm

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Re: Why doesn't Benzema leave Madrid?

Post by sportsczy on Sun Aug 09, 2015 7:54 pm

And just for more kicks... here are the top 10 scorers in Real Madrid history:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Real_Madrid_C.F._records_and_statistics#Goalscorers

Amaro sits at 10 with 155 and then Butragueno at 171 with Piri, etc.

Benz has 133 goals to date with Madrid:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karim_Benzema

So he'll get into the top 10 this season and pull ahead of Piri, Butragueno and Gento the season after. If he stuck around for 3 more seasons, he'd pull ahead of Hugo Sanchez who has 208.

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Re: Why doesn't Benzema leave Madrid?

Post by sportsczy on Sun Aug 09, 2015 8:02 pm

Btw, i'm not saying Benz is better than those players...  Just pointing out that statements such as "Benz doesn't score enough" and "he hasn't been an elite CF" are absurd.  Has he been on the same level as R9 or Raul?  Of course not.  Who has Laughing But he's carved himself a very good niche despite being restricted with playing next to CR and now Bale and CR... and his stats are on par with Madrid legends, whether you like it or not.  These are facts, not some subjective opinion or statement.

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Re: Why doesn't Benzema leave Madrid?

Post by chad4401 on Sun Aug 09, 2015 8:27 pm

wrong sports benzema will never do anything amazing cause, the media says he isn't intense enough, ever player other than benzema steps up and has done more cause their more popular.

i mean even jese has unbelievable movement and work rate which>>>>>>>>>>>Proud.

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Re: Why doesn't Benzema leave Madrid?

Post by terrance511 on Sun Aug 09, 2015 8:28 pm

benzema 1 of the top scorer in UCL all time list


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Re: Why doesn't Benzema leave Madrid?

Post by chad4401 on Sun Aug 09, 2015 8:34 pm

benz cl goals doesn't count, terrance have you not been following?

its only after he leaves madrid will his performances and goals will hold real weight... cause cr draws six defenders and benz misses all the 1v1 cr creates for him too, freaking twilight zone Laughing.

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Re: Why doesn't Benzema leave Madrid?

Post by Mr Nick09 on Sun Aug 09, 2015 8:36 pm

@sportsczy wrote:Btw, i'm not saying Benz is better than those players...  Just pointing out that statements such as "Benz doesn't score enough" and "he hasn't been an elite CF" are absurd.  Has he been on the same level as R9 or Raul?  Of course not.  Who has Laughing But he's carved himself a very good niche despite being restricted with playing next to CR and now Bale and CR... and his stats are on par with Madrid legends, whether you like it or not.  These are facts, not some subjective opinion or statement.
but who exactly has said that? Laughing

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Re: Why doesn't Benzema leave Madrid?

Post by chad4401 on Sun Aug 09, 2015 8:43 pm

I remember the days when being a cf for madrid was just about molesting barca and being tops in the cl, but when benzema started full filling those things, more and more categories keep opening up, new reasons and more angles.

even the freaking 10th wasn't good enough, why cause benz had to be the cf that lead us to it, shame Sad.

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Re: Why doesn't Benzema leave Madrid?

Post by Mr Nick09 on Sun Aug 09, 2015 8:45 pm

Benzema the CF that led us to la decima rofl

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Re: Why doesn't Benzema leave Madrid?

Post by Valkyrja on Sun Aug 09, 2015 8:46 pm

Nobody is saying that Benz isn't an elite player. He's one of the best around. But comparing him to Cristiano is taking it to far. The latter is an all time great and has been a top 2 player for 10 years while playing in the same era with a top 5 greatest player ever. The Frenchman simply is not.

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Re: Why doesn't Benzema leave Madrid?

Post by jibers on Sun Aug 09, 2015 8:50 pm

@Valkyrja wrote:Nobody is saying that Benz isn't an elite player. He's one of the best around. But comparing him to Cristiano is taking it to far. The latter is an all time great and has been a top 2 player for 10 years while playing in the same era with a top 5 greatest player ever. The Frenchman simply is not.


What?

Didn't realise CR was WC in 2005...

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Re: Why doesn't Benzema leave Madrid?

Post by futbol on Sun Aug 09, 2015 8:51 pm

@Valkyrja wrote:Nobody is saying that Benz isn't an elite player. He's one of the best around. But comparing him to Cristiano is taking it to far. The latter is an all time great and has been a top 2 player for 10 years while playing in the same era with a top 5 greatest player ever. The Frenchman simply is not.


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Re: Why doesn't Benzema leave Madrid?

Post by Valkyrja on Sun Aug 09, 2015 8:53 pm

@futbol wrote:
@Valkyrja wrote:Nobody is saying that Benz isn't an elite player. He's one of the best around. But comparing him to Cristiano is taking it to far. The latter is an all time great and has been a top 2 player for 10 years while playing in the same era with a top 5 greatest player ever. The Frenchman simply is not.



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Re: Why doesn't Benzema leave Madrid?

Post by chad4401 on Sun Aug 09, 2015 8:53 pm

@nick why do you guys make these things so easy for me?

remember what you guys said and like 90% of the sheepish madrid fans around the world, benzema as a starter will never lead madrid to any trophies.

now we won the trophies of all trophies, benzema involvement gets lowered again your a sheep, and argument are trash.

I bet everything i know as a madrid fan and footy fan in general, that if madrid won the 10th without benz, you guys would say benzema was the reason for not winning the freaking thing, and benzema scored key goal against bayern, that put the tie in our favor, to even get to the damn finals, dem memory lapses Proud.


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Re: Why doesn't Benzema leave Madrid?

Post by RealGunner on Sun Aug 09, 2015 8:54 pm

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Re: Why doesn't Benzema leave Madrid?

Post by Mr Nick09 on Sun Aug 09, 2015 8:58 pm

@chad4401 wrote:@nick why do you guys make these things so easy for me?

remember what you guys said and like 90% of the sheepish madrid fans around the world, benzema as a starter will never lead madrid to any trophies.

now we won the trophies of all trophies, benzema involvement gets lowered again your a sheep, and argument are trash.

I bet everything i know as a madrid fan and footy fan in general, that if madrid won the 10th without benz, you guys would say benzema was the reason for not winning the freaking thing, and benzema scored key goal against bayern, that put the tie in our favor, to even get to the damn finals, dem memory lapses Proud.
Im not lowering anything, again you with your mythomaniac tendencies, lying and inventing stuff through ur arse.

Just as i never said Benzema was irrelevant in winning la decima, i will never say that he is the one that led us to la decima.

you need help Laughing

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Re: Why doesn't Benzema leave Madrid?

Post by Gil on Sun Aug 09, 2015 9:04 pm

@RealGunner wrote:Last 8 years Valk.

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Re: Why doesn't Benzema leave Madrid?

Post by titosantill on Sun Aug 09, 2015 9:06 pm

wait, are those stats correct? cos benzema only hit the 30 goal margin once at madrid, not 3 times...oh i'm guessing you added national team goals. so many stats these days sometimes i get confused if its total club goals or club and national team. anyway back on topic, its not just that "benzema doesn't want to leave madrid", its also that madrid don't want to sell

if madrid are to sell him to arsenal, we are nearing the middle of august, there isn't ample time to go for someone who'll be a better replacement, so it isn't happening, and it isn't happening not because "benzema is comfortable" or "doesn't want a challenge", but cos he wants to stay, and the club doesn't want to sell....besides, who leaves a good job at say ibm to go and work at some local computer shop because they want to "challenge themselves"?

remember, henry had a crazy season in 03/04, imo the best performance by an epl player in a single season (maybe only comparable to cristiano's utd 07/08 season), and even then, he didn't win balon d'or....if you think benzema can join this arsenal side (which will still be a crap side compared to the invincibles) and produce that type of performance, u're joking....

not to mention, the usual suspects in the balon d'or race aren't retiring and will still be playing on stronger squads. the only individual accolade he could get from going to arsenal will be premier league player of the month, premier league player of the year or pfa player of the year....and even those aren't guaranteed...its not like chelsea, utd, city are asleep, and arsene is known to throw out naive tactics every now and again
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Re: Why doesn't Benzema leave Madrid?

Post by RealGunner on Sun Aug 09, 2015 9:06 pm

He wasn't top 2 in 2006

Top 5 probably

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Re: Why doesn't Benzema leave Madrid?

Post by sportsczy on Sun Aug 09, 2015 9:07 pm

@Mr Nick09 wrote:
@sportsczy wrote:Btw, i'm not saying Benz is better than those players...  Just pointing out that statements such as "Benz doesn't score enough" and "he hasn't been an elite CF" are absurd.  Has he been on the same level as R9 or Raul?  Of course not.  Who has Laughing But he's carved himself a very good niche despite being restricted with playing next to CR and now Bale and CR... and his stats are on par with Madrid legends, whether you like it or not.  These are facts, not some subjective opinion or statement.
but who exactly has said that? Laughing

Read back. Hala said it for sure... a couple of others i remember as well.

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Re: Why doesn't Benzema leave Madrid?

Post by futbol on Sun Aug 09, 2015 9:08 pm

Not even top 3 last season, let alone top 2 through the last 10 (or 8 ) years.

13 penalty goals (obviously choking the one that mattered as usual) + 5 goals against Granada in a meaningless 9-1 trashing + 6 goals after the league was already officially over = 24 goals that weren't worth a single dime which is almost half his total tally. Coupled with 0 tituli, disappearing act against Juventus, choking against Valencia and a whole lot of other statpadding without performing = top 2 performer last season. This forum. rofl

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