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Re: Do we need De Gea right now?

Post by Valkyrja on Tue Sep 01, 2015 12:07 am

Iker is 5'11, DDG around 6'3 and Navas around 6'1

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Re: Do we need De Gea right now?

Post by Doc on Tue Sep 01, 2015 12:33 am

Well, things have gotten interesting...

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Re: Do we need De Gea right now?

Post by FennecFox7 on Tue Sep 01, 2015 12:37 am

its not like ddg is 6'5. because he is 6'2 max. lol @ us using a players wingspan to justify a useless 35m transfer.

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Re: Do we need De Gea right now?

Post by chad4401 on Tue Sep 01, 2015 1:42 am

@FennecFox7 wrote:its not like ddg is 6'5. because he is 6'2 max. lol @ us using a players wingspan to justify a useless 35m transfer.
typical madrid fan(majority) behavior when a new player is on the way, any player in their position is lacking and without that new player, we won't win anything or be as competitive.

no matter how you slice it, DDG is a luxury signing than a need.

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Re: Do we need De Gea right now?

Post by Thimmy on Tue Sep 01, 2015 2:03 am

@vanDEEZ wrote:Iker is 6'1" Navas is 6'0" and De Gea is 6'4"

Not to mention De Gea's wingspan is immense

I'll be the first to say height isn't everything but De Gea is more talented and can cover more space, so it can certainly help us it our biggest weakness: set pieces/corners
I've seen both Iker and Ramos in person. Ramos is slightly taller than Iker, but he looked like he was just a tad shorter than me and I'm roughly 6'1... so that doesn't quite make sense to me. Either way, I don't think a few modest inches is going to make a lot of difference when comparing De Gea to our current and past GKs in terms of ability or competence. Having a wide wing span is pretty neat, though Razz

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Re: Do we need De Gea right now?

Post by vanDEEZ on Tue Sep 01, 2015 3:22 am

@FennecFox7 wrote:its not like ddg is 6'5. because he is 6'2 max. lol @ us using a players wingspan to justify a useless 35m transfer.


You say that as if height is the only criteria Pro-DDG posters are mentioning.

He is a clear upgrade, end of.
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Re: Do we need De Gea right now?

Post by chad4401 on Tue Sep 01, 2015 5:32 am

he is an upgrade but not that much a difference, between the two as far as abilities goes, i always wanted to see navas start for us week in and out, always felt iker was major part of us not winning much, navas level is a nice indicator to see how many goals conceded before was truly down to the defense or iker.

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Re: Do we need De Gea right now?

Post by halamadrid2 on Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:25 pm

lol at blamng united for our incompetence. i am happy we didnt overspend. now we can get ddg for free and make unted buy navas
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Re: Do we need De Gea right now?

Post by Rebaño Sagrado on Tue Sep 01, 2015 8:53 pm

What makes you think they have to buy Navas? This was a a last minute deal, and they weren't going to go the whole year with Romero starting lmao. They have a full year to decide their new keeper, and it doesn't have to be him.

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Re: Do we need De Gea right now?

Post by Donuts on Tue Sep 01, 2015 9:28 pm

they will probably go for bravo or something, with MaTS soon to take over if not this year then the one after.

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Re: Do we need De Gea right now?

Post by B-Mac on Wed Sep 02, 2015 1:12 am

or we will go for Lloris or a young keeper like we did with De Gea when Van Der Sar retired

or Navas will cement his place as Madrid #1 and De Gea will sign a new contract at United :coffee: Proud
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Re: Do we need De Gea right now?

Post by halamadrid2 on Wed Sep 02, 2015 11:04 am

DDG is Spanish even if Navas singlehandly wins us the treble we will still go for DDG only because of his nationality

Lloris will most definately go to PSG, Navas will be the only great keeper availabe to United next summer. So buying him will be the most logical thing to do
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Re: Do we need De Gea right now?

Post by vanDEEZ on Thu Sep 03, 2015 12:08 am

Then how do we explain choosing Danilo over Carvajal?
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Re: Do we need De Gea right now?

Post by Adit on Thu Sep 03, 2015 8:52 am

Except we didnt chose Danillo over Carvajal. We chose both of them. We need rotation in RB not in GK.

We will definitely get De Gea regardless of Keylor Navas status imo.

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Re: Do we need De Gea right now?

Post by halamadrid2 on Thu Sep 03, 2015 12:59 pm



hmm If DDG wasn't Spanish would we go for him??
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Re: Do we need De Gea right now?

Post by LeVersacci on Thu Sep 03, 2015 1:46 pm

Lol no

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Re: Do we need De Gea right now?

Post by Claudio84 on Thu Sep 03, 2015 3:08 pm

I think De Gea will end up renewing his contract, Del Bosque said he won't be in the Euros if he doesn't play for United, Casillas went to the Confederation Cup and he didn't play for Madrid that year, of course Casillas is Del Bosque's Favourite

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Re: Do we need De Gea right now?

Post by Mr Nick09 on Thu Sep 03, 2015 3:46 pm

it wasnt about bein vdb favorite, iker is the greatest keeper in spain history, fact. you dont threaten him like 23 yo de gea who has done nothing with the NT

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Re: Do we need De Gea right now?

Post by halamadrid2 on Thu Sep 03, 2015 4:35 pm

DDG has no competition. Valdez has been ostracised and Lopez didn't even get called up when he started for us. Even if DDG only plays Carling Cup he should be called up. But not getting him has put him in a very delicate situation. United will try to do a Bayern and bully him into signing an extension or face a whole season in the cold that is if LVG hasn't gotten his marching orders by then
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Re: Do we need De Gea right now?

Post by futbol_bill on Thu Sep 03, 2015 5:00 pm

Man U, in particular, Van Gaal. will definitely bully him and try to get him to renew, but I have a sense that De Gea will hold his cool at least until January. Van Gaal will need him. Romero is not good enough. He may play only liga or CL initially. Actually the best thing that Van Gaal can do is play him in CL even if only once. That way a move to Madrid in January doesn't work as he will not be able to play CL for Madrid. That then makes De Gea available for the whole year and he can bully him all year long.
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Re: Do we need De Gea right now?

Post by futbol_bill on Thu Sep 03, 2015 5:03 pm

I don't know where this De Gea being Spanish is coming from, as it is pretty obvious he is already one of the top 5 porteros. Navas is also good, but De Gea is definitely an upgrade. And Romero, is definitely a notch or two below Navas.
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Re: Do we need De Gea right now?

Post by halamadrid2 on Thu Sep 03, 2015 5:11 pm

I think playing in CL would be the worst thing for DDG because as you said a whole season of bullying can take its toll on players

be honest if DDG was playing for us and Navas for United with reputations reversed do you honestly believe we would be getting rid of DDG and buy Navas instead??

For me getting DDG is just a luxury. We don't need him. My opinion would've been diffierent had we had Iker as a starter and Lopez as back ups though because both today are many levels below both Navas and DDG. I rate DDG a little higher than Navas but not enough to be crazy about him. We can make do with Navas no problem. I'd even be confident with Casilla who I rate really highly too
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Re: Do we need De Gea right now?

Post by FennecFox7 on Thu Sep 03, 2015 6:56 pm

i think im the only one who says navas is not a level lower then de gea. what he showed in brazil was nothing short of incredible

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Re: Do we need De Gea right now?

Post by halamadrid2 on Thu Sep 03, 2015 7:48 pm

I think sitting on the bench for a whole season damaged his reputation not to mention playing for a team like Levante which nobody watches. If DDG was making similar saves at a team like Malaga for example I dont think anyone would care
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Re: Do we need De Gea right now?

Post by Doc on Thu Sep 03, 2015 8:20 pm

@FennecFox7 wrote:i think im the only one who says navas is not a level lower then de gea. what he showed in brazil was nothing short of incredible

Um, no you're not. I also don't see Navas as inferior to De Gea. De Gea definitely has better aerial abilities but that's about it in my honest opinion. Also agree with HalaAtletico, Navas rep was shot to shit when he spent a whole season watching Iker not do anything of any note except foul throw in a semis.

We have a lovely goalie that even the Bernabeu knows.

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Re: Do we need De Gea right now?

Post by LeSwagg James on Sun Sep 06, 2015 7:33 am

I didn't see a need for De Gea at all.. Just another big name

Navas is pretty great tbh

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