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Re: Iniesta

Post by Hapless_Hans on Thu Sep 10, 2015 12:47 pm

@Harmonica wrote:Yes.


So how is this then.

The Sicilian defense makes black statistically strong against e4 openings, while white still has the overall edge due to d4?

That more correct?

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Re: Iniesta

Post by Harmonica on Thu Sep 10, 2015 12:52 pm

@Hapless_Hans wrote:
@Harmonica wrote:Yes.


So how is this then.

The Sicilian defense makes black statistically strong against e4 openings, while white still has the overall edge due to d4?

That more correct?
White has statistical edge with e4.

http://www.becomeawordgameexpert.com/stats.htm

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Re: Iniesta

Post by Hapless_Hans on Thu Sep 10, 2015 12:54 pm

Damn. The Sicilian defense isn't as strong as I thought I remembered reading.

Are you any good? Stupid question, read: Do you play a lot? Online? Real life? Have you learned it in a club etc?

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Re: Iniesta

Post by Harmonica on Thu Sep 10, 2015 12:59 pm

Some, not a lot. I know theory very well, but never bothered learning enough openings which you need to advance.

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Thu Sep 10, 2015 1:05 pm

Yeah. I played as a kid and then not for a long time. Now I play again with friends who are similarly amateurish but against good, or schooled, players my lack of internalized openings will always hurt me.

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Re: Iniesta

Post by Harmonica on Thu Sep 10, 2015 1:14 pm

It's really bothersome to play advanced player because the opening. Even most of top GM's ever are known for their "opening scouting", brute forcing different variations with other GM's trying to get an edge for a single match. I think chess stops then being a game of mind.

Do you watch chess? Although I don't play anymore much, I still watch a lot of chess on youtube, it's pretty good/interesting learning platform.

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Thu Sep 10, 2015 1:20 pm

Nah. I watched a bit of the last two World Championships.
Other than that, I can't focus my attention. I'll try that youtube tip though, thanks.
That's also why I have a hard time playing a computer, I lack thinking discipline when I'm not sitting there facing somebody.

I think I even play better the longer my opponent takes to think because I'm forced to use that time too Laughing

I won't get any substantially better because I don't make the committment. It's great fun though.

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Post by Harmonica on Thu Sep 10, 2015 1:24 pm

That's true, can't play computer without instamoving, with a person it's easier. And I also watch only about 6-10 min videos, seldomly longer. If you're interested there a lot good chess channels on youtube that show old games, new games, own games without them being too long.

https://www.youtube.com/user/MatoJelic
https://www.youtube.com/user/kingscrusher

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Re: Iniesta

Post by Hapless_Hans on Thu Sep 10, 2015 1:32 pm

If you could pm me the one or two channels you like best I'd be much obliged, I do have developed SOME ambition to get better again recently Thumbs up

edit: Thanks!

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Re: Iniesta

Post by titosantill on Thu Sep 10, 2015 5:52 pm

wow!! deisler, totally forgot about him....injuries can be so cruel
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Re: Iniesta

Post by billy_gr on Fri Sep 11, 2015 5:47 am

if Inesta was a chess piece what would he be?
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Re: Iniesta

Post by Valkyrja on Fri Sep 11, 2015 6:01 am

@billy_gr wrote:if Inesta was a chess piece what would he be?


Bishop at best

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Re: Iniesta

Post by FennecFox7 on Fri Sep 11, 2015 8:33 am

benzema would be a pawn
ronaldos pawn :coffee:

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Post by billy_gr on Fri Sep 11, 2015 10:29 am

dat diagonal runs
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Re: Iniesta

Post by futbol on Sun Sep 13, 2015 2:25 pm



What a lad.

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Re: Iniesta

Post by Lucifer on Tue Sep 15, 2015 4:00 am

Guess who was mom
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Re: Iniesta

Post by jibers on Tue Sep 15, 2015 4:26 am

Pirloisjesus wrote:Guess who was mom


Messi (:

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Re: Iniesta

Post by Lucifer on Tue Sep 15, 2015 4:33 am

@jibers wrote:
Pirloisjesus wrote:Guess who was mom


Messi (:
not funny bro really not funny Mad
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Re: Iniesta

Post by Gil on Thu Sep 24, 2015 12:13 pm

Someone explain to me in depth why Barca's midfield has been subpar for the last 2 seasons ever since Xavi's role was reduced. Where is Iniesta who's supposedly the best in his position to dictate the tempo, control the game & create chances like Xavi did for over a decade. Busquets too for that matter. Why are Barca suffering their worst ever defeats since pre-Pep & why are they getting dominated by the likes of Celta & Bilbao?

Are these two actually as good as advertised or have Xavi & Messi just made them look far better than they actually are.

I've heard Barca fans blame Fabregas for years but the problems still remain long after his departure.
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Re: Iniesta

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Thu Sep 24, 2015 12:15 pm

Yet when it mattered nobody could dominate them.

Treble winners and you still searching lol.

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Post by Gil on Thu Sep 24, 2015 12:20 pm

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Yet when it mattered nobody could dominate them.

Treble winners and you still searching lol.


Eh? Madrid & Bayern both dominated them. Messi & co were just too good last season.
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Post by Valkyrja on Thu Sep 24, 2015 12:24 pm

@Gil wrote:
@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Yet when it mattered nobody could dominate them.

Treble winners and you still searching lol.


Eh? Madrid & Bayern both dominated them. Messi & co were just too good last season.


After winning the treble many fanboys are trying to give credit to non-factors. Iniesta last season was a non-factor. And don't come to me with his defensive work, if it hadn't for Messi and Nerman they wouldn't have gone past R16.

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Re: Iniesta

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Thu Sep 24, 2015 12:28 pm

@Gil wrote:
@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Yet when it mattered nobody could dominate them.

Treble winners and you still searching lol.


Eh? Madrid & Bayern both dominated them. Messi & co were just too good last season.


Madrid only dominated them when Mascherano was in midfield , once Busquets came on they completely controlled the game and created loads.

As for Bayern, the only time Bayern got any sort of control was when they were like 4 goals down Laughing

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Thu Sep 24, 2015 12:29 pm

@Valkyrja wrote:
@Gil wrote:
@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Yet when it mattered nobody could dominate them.

Treble winners and you still searching lol.


Eh? Madrid & Bayern both dominated them. Messi & co were just too good last season.


After winning the treble many fanboys are trying to give credit to non-factors. Iniesta last season was a non-factor. And don't come to me with his defensive work, if it hadn't for Messi and Nerman they wouldn't have gone past R16.


Non factor when he was great in every CL KO? seems legit.

I'm no fanboy, i'm just not a blind hater like you two are. Quite the difference.

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Thu Sep 24, 2015 12:31 pm

I am about up there with Gil, very disappointed in Iniesta in the past couple of seasons

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Re: Iniesta

Post by halamadrid2 on Thu Sep 24, 2015 12:36 pm

Barca made us look in form when we played them in March. Best football we'd played since the Clasico in November and we were pretty awful in March Laughing

Busquets can't control pass from 2 yards let alone a midfield battle against us

They have Suarez and Iker to thank for their win. I am pretty sure if we'd played in the final Barca would've made us look like we were in form again and the best we'd played since March and in turn since November all against the same opposition

Please spare me the bs. Busquets is crap. Iniesta has been in decline for a while, he needs someone talented as his back up
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