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Post by The Demon of Carthage Sat Sep 12, 2015 4:30 pm

Calm your horses, come back with this statement when we win a major trophy. As things stand, he still hasn't proven anything.

Last season we embarked upon a rampage slapping everybody left and right during the first half of the season (24 winning streak), only to succumb in the second half to injuries and poor form. Too early to start "shutting up" Rafa's critics.

As for the game, Bale has been tremendous and Ronaldo needs to set him up for a goal.

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Post by sportsczy Sat Sep 12, 2015 4:34 pm

Allowed to ease in this season. We usually play the supercup to start the season against Barca or Atleti and then have a key game early too... not this one. Easy opponents to start.

Didn't have to face trial by fire going in.
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Post by VanDeezNuts Sat Sep 12, 2015 4:39 pm

Has there ever been a question about how we do against weak opposition? No, this is just another throwaway game where Ronaldo can add to his goal tally.

It is gonna come down to the big matches. Atletico, Barcelona, Valencia, Sevilla, mainly he former 2. Not to mention CL and CDR when it gets closer to the final

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Post by Doc Sat Sep 12, 2015 4:42 pm

Well, we did question when we drew against Sporting and we would question when we drop points against weak opposition. So to answer the (rhetorical?) statement, yes, we question it.
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Post by VanDeezNuts Sat Sep 12, 2015 4:43 pm

But it shouldn't be a question with the amount of talent we have

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Post by halamadrid2 Sat Sep 12, 2015 5:14 pm

Excellent game, loved it from start to finish, the moment someone lost their concentration (Ramos) off they went and a fresh player came on. So kudos to Benitez for that.

Can this Bale as a CAM actually work??? I don't want to make conclusions but he has actually put two great performances in a row which has NEVER happened. Will judge after we have played at least 2 big teams away from home
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Post by Valkyrja Sat Sep 12, 2015 5:16 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:Excellent game, loved it from start to finish, the moment someone lost their concentration (Ramos) off they went and a fresh player came on. So kudos to Benitez for that.

Can this Bale as a CAM actually work??? I don't want to make conclusions but he has actually put two great performances in a row which has NEVER happened. Will judge after we have played at least 2 big teams away from home



That's not true and I'm the ultimate Bale hater. Bale was consistently good in his first season until ronaldo's injury
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Post by The Demon of Carthage Sat Sep 12, 2015 5:17 pm

Was going to say that Hala. He looks good as a CAM but let's wait for a big game to start drawing conclusions.
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Post by Pedram Sat Sep 12, 2015 5:28 pm

The Demon of Carthage wrote:Calm your horses, come back with this statement when we win a major trophy. As things stand, he still hasn't proven anything.

Last season we embarked upon a rampage slapping everybody left and right during the first half of the season (24 winning streak), only to succumb in the second half to injuries and poor form. Too early to start "shutting up" Rafa's critics.

As for the game, Bale has been tremendous and Ronaldo needs to set him up for a goal.

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Too early to judge us tbh, we always have this amazing form from September until December and then the team starts to deteriorate after the new year.
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Post by sportsczy Sat Sep 12, 2015 5:32 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:Excellent game, loved it from start to finish, the moment someone lost their concentration (Ramos) off they went and a fresh player came on. So kudos to Benitez for that.

Can this Bale as a CAM actually work??? I don't want to make conclusions but he has actually put two great performances in a row which has NEVER happened. Will judge after we have played at least 2 big teams away from home
The weaker teams have to drop off and leave some room because they can't cover the treats wide and on top without a lot of guys... the better team will just play up on Bale and that will end that.
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Post by halamadrid2 Sat Sep 12, 2015 5:36 pm

In 2 games time we will play Bilbao away. That'll be a better indication
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Post by sportsczy Sat Sep 12, 2015 5:40 pm

tbh, they're rotating who goes in the CAM with Benz and Ronaldo dropping in there.  Bale's not being dangerous when he plays in the middle...  all his good stuff comes when he ends up on a side.


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Post by chad4401 Sat Sep 12, 2015 5:40 pm

if rafa can sort out the soft goals the team normally concedes, then he already gonna have 1 up on carlo tbh.
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Post by halamadrid2 Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:30 pm

I think having Navas instead of Iker has helped alot too. That split second save he made today would've been a goal had Iker still been here. iirc this is the first time we have had a goalie with 3 clean sheets in a row, it's either the defence being finished/crap or the goalie. We are blessed to have both at the top of their peak this season. We should see alot more clean sheets imo

Next game is against Granada at home, that's another clean sheet with at least 5 goals scored
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Post by chad4401 Sat Sep 12, 2015 6:47 pm

yeah i agree, a lot of the goals we conceded last season was definitely iker fault 100% imo, navas been making saves i know for sure, iker would have let fly pass him like the one today and defense is much more organised can be a bit better still.

as i said before cut down on the soft goals titles are in the bag tbh, im not even that worries about this season i expect great things.
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Post by halamadrid2 Sat Sep 12, 2015 7:07 pm

As long as Benitez continues with his rotations we should be fine. Last two seasons we had alot of injuries which were as a direct result of no rotation which resulted in Barca and Atleti stealing the title from us. The more he plays the likes of Jese, Casemiro and Kovacic etc the sharper they'll look when we will need them
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Post by chad4401 Sat Sep 12, 2015 7:33 pm

true dat last 2 seasons the team needed some rotations and anybody who follows the team was begging for it, rafa is gonna make sure to rotate properly and maybe actually make the team a bit more competitive, so less sloppy plays and carefree attitudes.
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Post by Cyborg Sat Sep 12, 2015 9:15 pm

sportsczy wrote:tbh, they're rotating who goes in the CAM with Benz and Ronaldo dropping in there.  Bale's not being dangerous when he plays in the middle...  all his good stuff comes when he ends up on a side.


yea, bale didnt play as a central attacking player.

in fact the formation was a 4-3-3 with bale and ronaldo switching sides occasionally.

benzema is definitely the key to the system being functional and fruitful though.

on another note, lucas vazquez looked really good.

where is cherychev?
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Post by LeVersacci Sun Sep 13, 2015 2:50 pm

That Vazquez guy impressed me.
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Post by Thimmy Sun Sep 13, 2015 3:06 pm

LeVersacci wrote:That Vazquez guy impressed me.


Makes you wonder why he didn't play like that against "the almighty" Vålerenga Razz
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Post by Thimmy Sun Sep 13, 2015 3:59 pm

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Post by FalcaoPunch Sun Sep 13, 2015 5:39 pm

People keep mentioning Bale played as CAM but I swear it looked like a 4-3-3 with Bale on the right just changing sides ever so often and in a few instances he was in the center of the pitch when we were attacking.

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Post by The Demon of Carthage Sun Sep 13, 2015 7:55 pm

FalcaoPunch wrote:People keep mentioning Bale played as CAM but I swear it looked like a 4-3-3 with Bale on the right just changing sides ever so often and in a few instances he was in the center of the pitch when we were attacking.


The difference is that Bale under Ancelotti was pinned on the right which resulted in him not getting or seeing that much of the ball. Now, he's more involved because he's deployed behind the striker all while having the freedom to interchange with Ronaldo, so he can go from mediapunta to sneaking out wide. He didn't have that freedom under Ancelotti.



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Post by sportsczy Sun Sep 13, 2015 8:41 pm

Not keeping width by having people crash in is going to bite us in the arse against the better teams...
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