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Re: Champions League campaign 2015/2016

Post by Tomwin Lannister on Wed Nov 04, 2015 5:46 pm

We got absolutely dominated in the first half, it was pathetic. We genuinely struggle to string 3 passes together against mediocre opposition, we look harmless in attack and our defence is making idiotic judgement calls and mistakes.

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Re: Champions League campaign 2015/2016

Post by lucianomoggi on Wed Nov 04, 2015 5:52 pm

RED CARDS happen,
I have no problem with RED CARDS

what I am uncomfortable with is that HERNANES was never accepted as a Juventus player from the fans because some reasons and as soon as this guy makes a mistake everyone be like:

" I KNEW HE IS NOT GOOD "
" I KNEW HE IS NOT TRUSTWORTHY "
" we lost the game because of that RED-CARD "

the RED-CARD was never a problem,
for the first 45 minutes players could not string 3 passes together, and that is not how you win the game

when you play such a terrible game sure there will be yellow cards, red cards, penalties
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Re: Champions League campaign 2015/2016

Post by Luca on Wed Nov 04, 2015 5:53 pm

It's no wonder why
Midfield links the defense and attack and can cover up weaknesses in both

What we have:
1 world class midfielder in Marchisio
1 under-performing wonder kid in Pogba
1 broken Khedira

several depth players that are good for rotational purposes
(talking central midfielders so Cuadrado does not apply here)
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Re: Champions League campaign 2015/2016

Post by salmano9 on Wed Nov 04, 2015 8:37 pm

I do agree with you guys Luca and Tom, the team basically lacks chemistry. Allegri is trying to create something new with those youngsters. I think that we can see how vidal was effective last year even though he didn't have lots of touches.

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Re: Champions League campaign 2015/2016

Post by sportsczy on Wed Nov 04, 2015 9:35 pm

I think Pogba is coming along really well now tbh... picking up a lot of form. He just doesn't have Tevez to lean on who would fall back from the front... so the spacing between attack and midfield is too big so he's been trying to do too much. In a perfect role, you'd want Dybala to play that role. But Dybala isn't good at that at this point.

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Re: Champions League campaign 2015/2016

Post by Cassius on Wed Nov 04, 2015 10:25 pm

The performance was dire to be honest.

We were lucky to get out of that match with a draw, with or without the red. The way we constantly gave possession away through holding on to the ball or running into walls or wasted it completely was embarrassing. I could go on and on with how wasteful we were.

The best moment of the match was Lichts goal, and I wouldn't have celebrated it half as much as I would have normally if he hadn't just come back from heart surgery. It's actually incredible if you stop and think about it. Guys a legend.

The Germans just wanted it more than us from the get go. Their pressing, although not hugely impressive caused us massive problems. We couldn't pass our way forward through the middle to save our lives lol.
Our play is really slow and predictable
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Re: Champions League campaign 2015/2016

Post by BoBo on Wed Nov 04, 2015 10:57 pm

Pogba was the only light in the dark as he clearly has way to much pressure but seems more and more capable of handling it.

I think Allegri is really on the edge and Lippi is lurking Shocked

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Re: Champions League campaign 2015/2016

Post by GIGItheBest on Thu Nov 05, 2015 1:16 am

I don't know why you guys are saying we played bad, near the end of the first half and until Hernanes got red carded, we were actually playing well. I do agree that the team needs a bit more chemistry, and hopefully it will come soon.
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Re: Champions League campaign 2015/2016

Post by Tomwin Lannister on Thu Nov 05, 2015 2:37 am

The 30odd minutes before that we got absolutely dominated by a team that's supposedly inferior to us. We have no gameplan, no Chemistry and a pretty shit attack.

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Re: Champions League campaign 2015/2016

Post by Luca on Thu Nov 05, 2015 3:41 am

Too many individuals, there is only one ball on the field. We've seen so much selfishness this year that we haven't seen in previous years.

It looks like you have several players who think they're better than everyone else, at times.

This season is looking more and more disappointing. I see some promising pieces there, but not a finished product, not a complete team by any stretch.

In hindsight, we could re-visit the summer market. Forget the departures, let's pretend, for arguments sake, that they were all inevitable. The players brought in were handpicked and, if this is the result, someone *bleep* up

This team is screaming for a midfielder of real top quality (possibly two if you do not count on Khedira)

Cuadrado, Sandro and even Dybala are pieces that even last year's Juventus could have improved from. A midfielder like Lemina does stand out too. The rest, not so much.

It's a start, just not nearly enough
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Re: Champions League campaign 2015/2016

Post by juvealbanian on Thu Nov 05, 2015 8:58 am

We don't have any chance to win anything this season...CL qualify spot would be our title this year.

If we don't play CL next season it will be a disaster.I can see a few overpriced January signigs in panic.

All we needed was a top playmaker,what we need now is much more.
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Re: Champions League campaign 2015/2016

Post by Cassius on Thu Nov 05, 2015 11:14 pm

We'll easily finish in a CL spot, I don't see this bad form lasting much longer. Things have improved tenfold from match day 1.

The title isn't impossible either but I wouldn't bet on it.
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Re: Champions League campaign 2015/2016

Post by Luca on Fri Nov 06, 2015 4:24 am

@Cassius wrote:We'll easily finish in a CL spot, I don't see this bad form lasting much longer. Things have improved tenfold from match day 1.

The title isn't impossible either but I wouldn't bet on it.


I'm not sure I would go that far
Defense looks better obviously, but creating chances has not improved
Whenever Juventus concedes first I cringe, I never feel like they'll do anything better than a draw from that point forward. It's discouraging. They certainly look better than they did on matchday 1, but they are not in the top 3 in Italy right now for a reason.

With the point differential already, we would really need to see them pick up form and others fall off
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Re: Champions League campaign 2015/2016

Post by S on Fri Nov 06, 2015 9:20 am

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Re: Champions League campaign 2015/2016

Post by lucianomoggi on Fri Nov 06, 2015 3:24 pm

when players become +30 years old is time to surrender on them unless someone is extreme talented and you want to keep for LEADERSHIP such as BUFFON, MALDINI, PIRLO, NEDVED, DEL PIERO
however, you don't want too many of that because you want to compensate for STAMINA and INTENSITY of the team

this is the reason why INTER dropped from the TOP to the bottom, because players was getting old and the transition took them too long so they was hopeless for so many years

I love the fact that JUVENTUS has reacted a little bit faster to the transition; bringing some U22 players + CUADRADO and ALEX SANDRO

you need to understand that there is a time that the club should surrender on players before it gets too late; and a good example for that is MANCHESTER UNITED who kicked out players like VIDIC, EVRA, as soon as they became +30 years old; did not extend the contracts or whatsoever

JUVENTUS should focus on the transition and sacrifice has to be made, we have to experiment with players such as RUGANI, LEMINA, STURARO,

because soon we have to surrender on players such as EVRA, CHIELLINI, BARZAGLI, LICHTAINER, MARCHISIO
and than there will be even more serious problems
than the situation will be even worse than today
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Re: Champions League campaign 2015/2016

Post by salmano9 on Tue Nov 24, 2015 4:29 pm

16:46 - COMPLETED TRAINING - Juventus have finished your training before the match against Manchester City. They took part in today's meeting is that Evra Caceres, at this point the French is a candidate for a jersey holder. It was not, however, in the group with fellow Lemina. Massimiliano Allegri in the coming hours will decide whether to rely on the 3-5-2 or 4-3-3. In attack should return Morata, if trident with him there will Cuadrado and Mandzukic, if instead, Allegri will choose the two points, along with Spanish play Dybala.

15:16 - TRAINING IN PROGRESS - Juventus is in the field for training for the match against Manchester City. They are training with his teammates also Caceres and Evra, while Pereyra and Padoin are working separately. In the current session Massimiliano Allegri melt the last doubts of formation. In fact, the coach from Livorno will decide whether, against the English, will field the 3-5-2 or 4-3-3. Tomorrow, certainly will miss Khedira and Hernanes. The number 6 will be replaced by Juventus Sturaro that play with Pogba and Marchisio. Juventus, through its official Twitter profile, shared some pictures of the training course in: "Under a pale sun, the Bianconeri are in the field for the final training session on the eve of #JuveCity. Https://t.co / 0RfEzH4G7q, "wrote the Juventus who also posted a photo of Allegri's team in the field in Vinovo.
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I love how Sturaro is being used in the big games Smile He does so well in these games like vs RM last year and Man City in the first leg.

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Re: Champions League campaign 2015/2016

Post by salmano9 on Tue Nov 24, 2015 6:41 pm


“I have four players available in attack, I think two will play. We could have three at the back, we could use Juan Cuadrado wide, I have not yet decided. We have the option to play with three in defence or four.

“I am not worried by a trial by media if I don’t play Dybala. I am worried about all the praise for a 21-year-old who is doing well, but needs to be given the time and space to grow calmly. At his age he cannot have all the responsibility for Juventus success on his shoulders.

“Mario Mandzukic will score his tally of goals by the end of the season. At the moment Dybala is on strong form, but a striker tends to have highs and lows during a campaign.”
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So I think that we will see a 352 formation being used with morata and mandzukic upfront. Cuadrado on the right wing.

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Re: Champions League campaign 2015/2016

Post by DeviAngel on Tue Nov 24, 2015 7:17 pm

@salmano9 wrote:
“I have four players available in attack, I think two will play. We could have three at the back, we could use Juan Cuadrado wide, I have not yet decided. We have the option to play with three in defence or four.

“I am not worried by a trial by media if I don’t play Dybala. I am worried about all the praise for a 21-year-old who is doing well, but needs to be given the time and space to grow calmly. At his age he cannot have all the responsibility for Juventus success on his shoulders.

“Mario Mandzukic will score his tally of goals by the end of the season. At the moment Dybala is on strong form, but a striker tends to have highs and lows during a campaign.”
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So I think that we will see a 352 formation being used with morata and mandzukic upfront. Cuadrado on the right wing.


Play the formation we have most width with, 3-5-2 it is than... please god no 4-3-3

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Re: Champions League campaign 2015/2016

Post by DeviAngel on Tue Nov 24, 2015 8:18 pm

“You just have to see how Alex Sandro, Dybala, Mario Lemina and others have improved over time. During this process, we dropped some points by the wayside in Serie A.

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Re: Champions League campaign 2015/2016

Post by salmano9 on Tue Nov 24, 2015 9:41 pm

I hope for a stable 352 too.

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Re: Champions League campaign 2015/2016

Post by salmano9 on Wed Nov 25, 2015 4:21 pm

17:05 - ballot EVRA - ALEX SANDRO - Juventus finished the afternoon rest for the match against Manchester City. Soon the team will make the technical meeting. Massimiliano Allegri should rely on the 3-5-2: Buffon will be in port. They will play in defense Barzagli, Bonucci and Chiellini. In midfield, on the right we will move Cuadrado, in between there will be Sturaro, Marchisio and Pogba, on the left when Evra appears favorite Alex Sandro. In attack should play Morata and Dybala.

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Re: Champions League campaign 2015/2016

Post by juvealbanian on Wed Nov 25, 2015 6:05 pm

JUVE (3-5-2): Buffon; Barzagli, Bonucci, Chiellini; Cuadrado, Sturaro, Marchisio, Pogba, Evra; Dybala, Morata
MANCHESTER CITY (4-2-3-1): Hart; Sagna, Otamendi, Demichelis, Kolarov; Fernandinho, Delph; De Bruyne, Yaya Touré, Sterling; Aguero
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Re: Champions League campaign 2015/2016

Post by juvealbanian on Wed Nov 25, 2015 6:09 pm

I would start Lemina instead of Sturaro as he is more safe on passes.
As for LB I would like to see Sandro come on second half and get more than just those final minutes.

Pretty much that's the best and safer formation we can field atm.Hope Allegri doesn't make some pointless moves.
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Re: Champions League campaign 2015/2016

Post by salmano9 on Wed Nov 25, 2015 7:30 pm

Officilia lineups:
Buffon; Barzagli, Bonucci, Chiellini; Lichtsteiner, Sturaro, Marchisio, Pogba, Alex Sandro; Mandzukic, Dybala

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Re: Champions League campaign 2015/2016

Post by salmano9 on Wed Nov 25, 2015 8:04 pm

Alex Sandro says hi to allegri Smile 3rd assist in 3rd game

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Re: Champions League campaign 2015/2016

Post by lucianomoggi on Wed Nov 25, 2015 9:22 pm

@salmano9 wrote:Alex Sandro says hi to allegri Smile 3rd assist in 3rd game


This is really good
Alex Sandro can add extra energy in the team we need him to do good, we need him to be successful
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