It's time we accept Higuain is an elite striker

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Post by Robespierre on Mon Oct 19, 2015 10:51 pm

Well , he is a big games player in Serie A.
Scored against every big , away and home , and same thing yesterday

about the comparison cavani - higuain , we're comparing two different teams firstly.
that napoli was built to counterattack around cavani .. I 'm not sure if he 'd get same amount of goals now

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Re: It's time we accept Higuain is an elite striker

Post by izzy on Mon Oct 19, 2015 10:54 pm

@BarrileteCosmico wrote:ffs such grit



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Re: It's time we accept Higuain is an elite striker

Post by zizzle on Mon Oct 19, 2015 11:18 pm

@Curtinho wrote:What do you mean? Didn't they win a couple of historic trophies (one over Juventus no less where Higuain scored two goals)? Higuain was arguably the best player in the group when Napoli was in the CL against Arsenal and Dortmund, and was team of the tournament for the Europa last year.

He was on the same level as Benzema and Lewandowski in terms of production last year also:



And, last two years:

Luis Suarez: 56 goals, 48 assists (104)
Zlatan Ibrahimovic: 71 goals, 26 assists (97)
Sergio Aguero: 60 goals, 23 assists (83)
Robert Lewandowski: 53 goals, 28 assists (81)
Karim Benzema: 46 goals, 31 assists (77)
Gonzalo Higuain: 53 goals, 23 assists (76)
Diego Costa: 56 goals, 12 assists (68)
Edinson Cavani: 56 goals, 9 assists (65)

He came up big in some big games, and not so much in some others, but his first two seasons were definitely still at a very high level.


You are right about his first season, he was pretty good, but its last season that I'm talking about since it's still fresh in my memory. His performance in the EL semi finals are really disappointing, he just didnt step up and missed a couple of chances you'd expect him to convert, and again in the last game he wasted that penalty and I'm sure that was discussed to death. The criticism towards Higgy has always been about him disappearing in big games, and last year that was a common theme. This year he is doing a great job so far, but like i said, it all depends on how he delivers at crunch time, coz that's when he usually goes missing. It is probably the only reason why some of us dont rate him as elite.

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Post by ES on Mon Oct 19, 2015 11:19 pm

I'm with zizzle on this one

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Re: It's time we accept Higuain is an elite striker

Post by BarrileteCosmico on Mon Oct 19, 2015 11:49 pm

Speaking solely for Napoli, other than the EL semis, which big games did he go missing on? And before anyone brings up the missed penalty against Lazio, let's not forget that the only reason they were 2-2 in the first place is that Higgy scored a brace.

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Re: It's time we accept Higuain is an elite striker

Post by breva on Tue Oct 20, 2015 1:03 am

I may be dating myself, but in his new position Gonzalo reminds me of the great Giorgio Chinaglia who overpowered defenders and mid fielders in the midfield and scored lone goals. Chinaglia never got the respect he deserved, and that will probably be Higuain's legacy.

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Re: It's time we accept Higuain is an elite striker

Post by Robespierre on Tue Oct 20, 2015 1:24 am

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Interesting comparison tbh
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Re: It's time we accept Higuain is an elite striker

Post by M99 on Tue Oct 20, 2015 2:25 am

@Doc wrote:
@M99 wrote:Even though Higuain is playing really good, Cavani was far better for Napoli.

Very true but Higuain is better than him now so...Hala is still vindicated.


Being in university, my days of following all top 5 leagues are over so I really have not watched PSG outside of CL this season. However, according to stats Cavani has 8 goals in 10 games so as far as stats go, it does not seem fact that Higuain is currently better hmm

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Post by urbaNRoots on Thu Oct 22, 2015 10:15 pm



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OptaPaolo wrote:8 - Gonzalo Higuaín has now scored his 8th seasonal goal (in all competitions): more than any other Serie A player. Pipita.

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Re: It's time we accept Higuain is an elite striker

Post by El Blanco Madridista on Thu Oct 22, 2015 10:18 pm

8 goals and 2 assists in 11 matches. Already the best start in his career.


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Post by Pedram on Thu Oct 22, 2015 10:20 pm

Pipita, always believed in him. Proud

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Re: It's time we accept Higuain is an elite striker

Post by zizzle on Fri Oct 23, 2015 12:30 am

2 years left on his contract at the end of this season. Guess Napoli cant reject them 70m that Wenger will put on the table.

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Re: It's time we accept Higuain is an elite striker

Post by breva on Fri Oct 23, 2015 1:13 am

De Laurentis can reject anything he wants. He is a peculiar fellow.

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Re: It's time we accept Higuain is an elite striker

Post by Don't call me James on Fri Oct 23, 2015 2:56 am

Higuain is 28 soon and will be 29 next season. Doubt he's gonna go for that sort of money when he does leave.

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Re: It's time we accept Higuain is an elite striker

Post by zizzle on Fri Oct 23, 2015 3:23 am

@breva wrote:De Laurentis can reject anything he wants. He is a peculiar fellow.


With only two years left on the contract? he sold Cavani when that happened as well (or so i remember)


@Don't call me James wrote:Higuain is 28 soon and will be 29 next season. Doubt he's gonna go for that sort of money when he does leave.


Suarez was around the same age while factoring in the ban and he went for 80. Of course Suarez would cost more in general but Higgy wouldnt be that far behind

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Post by El Gunner on Fri Oct 23, 2015 6:19 am

*bleep* off Higuain isn't near worth that much, Laughing and you're deluded if you honestly think he's going to be sold for that amount of money

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Re: It's time we accept Higuain is an elite striker

Post by Don't call me James on Fri Oct 23, 2015 6:43 am

@zizzle wrote:
Suarez was around the same age while factoring in the ban and he went for 80. Of course Suarez would cost more in general but Higgy wouldnt be that far behind


Suarez was younger when sold (even if it was 1-2 years) while also being a much better player than Pipita on all accounts and also the best CF in world football in summer of 2014.

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Re: It's time we accept Higuain is an elite striker

Post by Cruijf on Fri Oct 23, 2015 11:26 am

70m is a stretch, but 50m is entirely possible.

This is nothing new btw, top class CFs have been rare for a while, and so everyone has to overpay to get one of the few that are available. I mean, who else would Arsenal buy?

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Re: It's time we accept Higuain is an elite striker

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Fri Oct 23, 2015 11:32 am

Who would pay 50m lol? That's right nobody.

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Re: It's time we accept Higuain is an elite striker

Post by Adit on Fri Oct 23, 2015 12:55 pm

Who thought Jackson Martinez would go for 35? Martial for 80?

Anything is possible.

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Re: It's time we accept Higuain is an elite striker

Post by Curtinho on Fri Oct 23, 2015 2:17 pm

Not to mention Higuain is miles better than either of those players.

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Re: It's time we accept Higuain is an elite striker

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Fri Oct 23, 2015 2:35 pm

1. Martial didn't cost 80m

2. Martial is 19 years old

3. No one with 50m to spend is going to spend it on Higuain at this stage of his career as they already have better or those with potential to be better

4. It's not that surprising someone will spend 35m on Jackson Martinez and the difference between 35m and 50m is drastic.... the amount of strikers that have gone for around 30m compared to the amount that have gone for 50m is also massive.

So no he won't.

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Re: It's time we accept Higuain is an elite striker

Post by Hapless_Hans on Fri Oct 23, 2015 3:02 pm

We're talking € Dear Leader. Benteke cost close to 45m €.
Makes no sense to proclaim noone would ever pay 50m for Higuain.
How much did United pay for a 30 year old RvP?
With the money flooding the PL, you'll see clubs like West Ham or Everton trying to sign players for that money. Tottenham. Etc pp.

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Re: It's time we accept Higuain is an elite striker

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Fri Oct 23, 2015 3:05 pm

Ah the old talk Euros because it suits your agenda has reared it's ugly head again i see Proud

RVP cost them less 25m if i recall, don't bring your bs Euros argument into this considering it was a transaction between two ENGLISH clubs.

Also no it won't happen because the clubs who could afford such a fee already have better so....

Also Benteke cost 32m, not 45m stop it. It was a transfer between two ENGLISH clubs so how and why Euros are even relevant is beyond me.

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Re: It's time we accept Higuain is an elite striker

Post by Hapless_Hans on Fri Oct 23, 2015 3:09 pm

LMAO what's the matter with you.

Martial cost 70m+10m EUROS. Martinez cost 35m EUROS.
Accordingly, Benteke didn't cost 32m, but 40+m.
And an aging Rvp on his last year cost 30+m years ago.

How else are you going to compare it. You realize different currencies are calculated with a certain rate?
It IS possible to express an amount paid in pound in Euros?

rofl rofl

'the old Euro talk to suit my agenda' rofl rofl

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Re: It's time we accept Higuain is an elite striker

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Fri Oct 23, 2015 3:14 pm

More what's the matter with you tbh.

Listing a transaction between two english clubs in Euros.

Seems entirely legit.

Also Martial cost 36m pounds, how that translate to 80m euros is beyond me lol. You realize that most of it is bonus related which hasn't been paid lol?

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