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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Fri Oct 23, 2015 5:14 pm

More what's the matter with you tbh.

Listing a transaction between two english clubs in Euros.

Seems entirely legit.

Also Martial cost 36m pounds, how that translate to 80m euros is beyond me lol. You realize that most of it is bonus related which hasn't been paid lol?

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Fri Oct 23, 2015 5:20 pm

Ok, so let's take it step by step, since you seem a bit retarded today.

So how much POUND, changed into Euros, would an English club have to pay to Napoli to acquire Higuain for 50m?

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Fri Oct 23, 2015 5:25 pm

That's fair enough, not the point though. You are listing prices in Euros which two english clubs agreed upon in pounds and the transfer was paid upon in pounds.

All you are doing with that is listing the higher number because it looks better even when Euros never changed hands during said transfer.

My point was no one will pay 50m euros or otherwise because the only teams who can afford such amounts already have better.

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Fri Oct 23, 2015 5:32 pm

You can't say 'that's fair enough' after I call you retarded ffs. That's no fun Sad

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Fri Oct 23, 2015 5:34 pm

It's a fair allegation hmm

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Re: It's time we accept Higuain is an elite striker

Post by Hapless_Hans on Fri Oct 23, 2015 6:05 pm

Nah.

You just can't admit to being wrong :coffee:

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Fri Oct 23, 2015 6:12 pm

I can lol, you just haven't be able to do so yet hmm

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Post by Curtinho on Fri Oct 23, 2015 9:46 pm

There are not many better strikers out there than Higuain period, so I don't see how most of the rich clubs already have better. He would be an improvement on every striker in the PL minus Aguero and even then City could use him because Aguero is almost as injury prone as Sturridge.

I could definitely see him go for 50m.

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Post by El Blanco Madridista on Fri Oct 23, 2015 11:40 pm

@Don't call me James wrote:Higuain is 28 soon and will be 29 next season. Doubt he's gonna go for that sort of money when he does leave.
Higuain is 27yo, not 28.

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Post by BarrileteCosmico on Sat Oct 24, 2015 1:04 am

No way he goes for over 40m, he only has 3-4 years left of top football in him. That being said, a lower valuation doesn't make him bad by any means.

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Re: It's time we accept Higuain is an elite striker

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Sat Oct 24, 2015 1:20 am

@Curtinho wrote:There are not many better strikers out there than Higuain period, so I don't see how most of the rich clubs already have better. He would be an improvement on every striker in the PL minus Aguero and even then City could use him because Aguero is almost as injury prone as Sturridge.

I could definitely see him go for 50m.


Of the clubs who have 50m to spend who would buy him?

City wouldn't, Bayern wouldn't, Barca wouldn't, Man Yoo wouldn't, Arsenal wouldn't ( as proven), Real wouldn't, Chelsea wouldn't, PSG wouldn't etc etc.

You can live in your fantasy land of him being better than certain players and that means they would pay it but the reality is different and the reality none of those clubs would pay 50m for him.

Either they have better, players who will be better or they would plain refuse to pay it.

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Re: It's time we accept Higuain is an elite striker

Post by zizzle on Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:15 am

Let's do some wikipedia backed fact checking, shall wel?

Suarez turns 29 in a few months
Higuain turns 28 in a few months
When Suarez made his Barcalona debut he was almost 28
Higuain will be 29 mid way through next season
A technically 28 year old Suarez cost 93.7 million Euros, GL tax not included

Now lets consider a few other facts:
-Higuain's release clause is something like 90 million
-Higuain is having a monster season (so far)
-De Laurentiis is an asshole
-If Napoli makes the CL they will have no reason to sell
-The EPL is set for one grand pay day

I donno about you but 60-70 millions doesnt seem like a lot of money these days for a player who is considered elite by many.

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Post by futbol on Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:21 am

Suarez' official fee was € 81M. € 93.7 million is already with GL tax.

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Re: It's time we accept Higuain is an elite striker

Post by zizzle on Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:22 am

This must be wikipedia tax then

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Post by futbol on Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:24 am


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Re: It's time we accept Higuain is an elite striker

Post by zizzle on Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:27 am

Wikipedia lists The Independent and the Guardian as their sources, never mind

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:27 am

Suarez is miles better lol, why are you pretending that isn't factor.

What he did at his last season at Liverpool Higuain couldn't dream of doing on his playstation.

@zizzle wrote:L
-The EPL is set for one grand pay day

I donno about you but 60-70 millions doesnt seem like a lot of money these days for a player who is considered elite by many.


Who in the PL would pay that lol? City? got Aguero, Arsenal? already turned him down for a lot less, Man Yoo? just spent obscene amounts on Martial so will go with him until he proves hes not good enough and Chelsea? they have Costa so again no it isn't happening lol.

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Post by Kaladin on Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:33 am

@futbol wrote:Suarez' official fee was € 81M. € 93.7 million is already with GL tax.


Its 100m. GL tax is always rounded to the nearest hundred mio
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Post by zizzle on Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:55 am

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Suarez is miles better lol, why are you pretending that isn't factor.

What he did at his last season at Liverpool Higuain couldn't dream of doing on his playstation.

@zizzle wrote:L
-The EPL is set for one grand pay day

I donno about you but 60-70 millions doesnt seem like a lot of money these days for a player who is considered elite by many.


Who in the PL would pay that lol? City? got Aguero, Arsenal? already turned him down for a lot less, Man Yoo? just spent obscene amounts on Martial so will go with him until he proves hes not good enough and Chelsea? they have Costa so again no it isn't happening lol.


Say that Suarez is the best striker in the world, people complain, dont say that Suarez is the best striker in the world and other people complain...

Yes Suarez is better, i already mentioned that in this thread, but let's not act like the market is about who's better, its about supply and demand and for the supply part there isnt anyone better on the market.
Now when it comes to demand you're simply ignoring football logic. PSG will have to replace Ibra soon, Costa is misfiring, United doesnt have a STRIKER, and Arsenal has Giroud (and Wenger but you get the point). That's not taking into consideration Tottenham who always spend big and the possibility that Liverpool starts buying quality not quantity.

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Post by El Gunner on Sat Oct 24, 2015 10:52 am

I'm with Mole all the way on this discussion.

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Re: It's time we accept Higuain is an elite striker

Post by S on Sat Oct 24, 2015 12:46 pm

@BarrileteCosmico wrote:No way he goes for over 40m, he only has 3-4 years left of top football in him. That being said, a lower valuation doesn't make him bad by any means.

Never underestimate the retardation of EPL clubs.

From next yr , even mid-table English clubs will receive €200m a yr from the domestic deal so you can just imagine how high the fees for acquiring players within the league or even abroad are going to be.

With the kind of season he's having I won't be one bit surprised to see an EPL club hugely overpay.

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Re: It's time we accept Higuain is an elite striker

Post by Hapless_Hans on Sat Oct 24, 2015 12:49 pm



FC Barcelona always seeks clarity. It’s one of the values that define the club and this has been reflected with the honest way that the costs for the 2014-2015 season have been revealed to the members on the day after the finalisation of the summer transfer window.

rofl rofl rofl

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Re: It's time we accept Higuain is an elite striker

Post by Adit on Sat Oct 24, 2015 12:57 pm

Chelsea could very well buy Higuain.

Costa is a scrub compared to him.

Why cant Arsenal buy him? its not like Giroud and Walcott are better than him. They didnt buy him when he was available for less ? may be because they had other priorities on the squad.They brought Ozil for big money that season if i remember correctly.They didnt buy him then so they wont buy him now is a lazy excuse for not looking at things objectively.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:52 pm

@Adit wrote:Chelsea could very well buy Higuain.

Costa is a scrub compared to him.

Why cant Arsenal buy him? its not like Giroud and Walcott are better than him. They didnt buy him when he was available for less ? may be because they had other priorities on the squad.They brought Ozil for big money that season if i remember correctly.They didnt buy him then so they wont buy him now is a lazy excuse for not looking at things objectively.


Wenger obviously doesn't rate him lol ( at least not enough to pay that amount of money), he made that pretty clear when he rejected him the first time around.

Chelsea won't either, at least until Mourinho goes. You are clutching at straws here, there isn't a team in England who would pay 50m for him and i explained why already.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Sat Oct 24, 2015 2:58 pm

@zizzle wrote:
@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Suarez is miles better lol, why are you pretending that isn't factor.

What he did at his last season at Liverpool Higuain couldn't dream of doing on his playstation.

@zizzle wrote:L
-The EPL is set for one grand pay day

I donno about you but 60-70 millions doesnt seem like a lot of money these days for a player who is considered elite by many.


Who in the PL would pay that lol? City? got Aguero, Arsenal? already turned him down for a lot less, Man Yoo? just spent obscene amounts on Martial so will go with him until he proves hes not good enough and Chelsea? they have Costa so again no it isn't happening lol.


Say that Suarez is the best striker in the world, people complain, dont say that Suarez is the best striker in the world and other people complain...

Yes Suarez is better, i already mentioned that in this thread, but let's not act like the market is about who's better, its about supply and demand and for the supply part there isnt anyone better on the market.
Now when it comes to demand you're simply ignoring football logic. PSG will have to replace Ibra soon, Costa is misfiring, United doesnt have a STRIKER, and Arsenal has Giroud (and Wenger but you get the point). That's not taking into consideration Tottenham who always spend big and the possibility that Liverpool starts buying quality not quantity.


PSG are going to replace Ibra with Higuain when they already have Cavani? now whose ignoring football logic lol.

United does have a striker, they spent 50+ on one who is 19 years old and will stay with him until he proves he's shit. As long as Mourinho is manager there is no way in hell Chelsea sign him and they have no reason to buy a striker at the moment.

Wenger has already rejected him for like 15m less Laughing

The fact is most of footballs elite already have strikers who are either better, with potential to be better or in general they are just happy with like Costa.

There is a reason when Higuain left Madrid he went to Napoli lol, you don't choose to go to Napoli.... he went there because the better teams already had a first team striker they were happy with or they were Wenger.

Seems like to me that i'm the only one using logic tbh hmm

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Post by Casciavit on Sat Oct 24, 2015 3:02 pm

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
@zizzle wrote:
@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Suarez is miles better lol, why are you pretending that isn't factor.

What he did at his last season at Liverpool Higuain couldn't dream of doing on his playstation.



Who in the PL would pay that lol? City? got Aguero, Arsenal? already turned him down for a lot less, Man Yoo? just spent obscene amounts on Martial so will go with him until he proves hes not good enough and Chelsea? they have Costa so again no it isn't happening lol.


Say that Suarez is the best striker in the world, people complain, dont say that Suarez is the best striker in the world and other people complain...

Yes Suarez is better, i already mentioned that in this thread, but let's not act like the market is about who's better, its about supply and demand and for the supply part there isnt anyone better on the market.
Now when it comes to demand you're simply ignoring football logic. PSG will have to replace Ibra soon, Costa is misfiring, United doesnt have a STRIKER, and Arsenal has Giroud (and Wenger but you get the point). That's not taking into consideration Tottenham who always spend big and the possibility that Liverpool starts buying quality not quantity.


PSG are going to replace Ibra with Higuain when they already have Cavani? now whose ignoring football logic lol.

United does have a striker, they spent 50+ on one who is 19 years old and will stay with him until he proves he's shit. As long as Mourinho is manager there is no way in hell Chelsea sign him and they have no reason to buy a striker at the moment.

Wenger has already rejected him for like 15m less Laughing

The fact is most of footballs elite already have strikers who are either better, with potential to be better or in general they are just happy with like Costa.

There is a reason when Higuain left Madrid he went to Napoli lol, you don't choose to go to Napoli.... he went there because the better teams already had a first team striker they were happy with or they were Wenger.

Seems like to me that i'm the only one using logic tbh hmm


Exactly. No top player chooses to go to Napoli of all places Laughing
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