#WengerOut - This is definitely the definitive opinion

Wenger wrote:If we finish outside the top four, it will maybe be down to one point. One point would be difficult to swallow but that should not as well change the judgment on the quality of the team to a way where you think you have absolutely to change everything.
"It will mean just keep the same focus to try to strengthen the squad. We know where it has to be and that’s what the club will have to do.

urbaNRoots wrote:We won't change the manager and we won't make major changes in the squad-- what is there to look forward to as a fan?

Sina wrote:

Wenger wrote:If we finish outside the top four, it will maybe be down to one point. One point would be difficult to swallow but that should not as well change the judgment on the quality of the team to a way where you think you have absolutely to change everything.
"It will mean just keep the same focus to try to strengthen the squad. We know where it has to be and that’s what the club will have to do.

link:https://t.co/vy9MGoFD91

we could get relegated and Wenger would stay and same quote would apply    

urbaNRoots wrote:Not very encouraging but fair. It's some change at least.

Europa League should be more exciting than our CL performances. At least we have a chance of winning it, if Wenger takes it seriously.

'Perhaps Arsene thought I might be too challenging for him.

'He seemed to like an assistant such as Pat Rice or Steve Bould, both great club men who were not going to ruffle feathers.

'Arsene is so dominant that he was probably not going to like it if I said, 'We're conceding bad goals, I'm going to take the back four today and organise them'.

'Because Arsene is essentially not a coach - and that is the second reason why I believe he didn't want me. Back in the day I said in an interview coaching wasn't Arsene's strong point.

'Actually in the original draft, I said he couldn't coach his way out of a paper bag. And though I modified that in the final article, it didn't go down well.

urbaNRoots wrote:Why isn't Wenger's future sorted out yet?

Or Özil's?

Or Alexis'?

Or Oxlade-Chamberlain's?

This club is in shambles.

Jeremy Wilson (Telegraph) wrote:
Arsene Wenger + Arsenal moving to agreement on structural changes and new contract. Finals talks after Cup final. Kroenke also not selling: https://t.co/nI1bXwdX3d

growing confidence that agreement can be reached on a head of operations/sporting director role.

This situation has become pivotal to deciding Wenger’s future – with the Frenchman adamant both that he must retain control over football and that the departure of any of his core backroom team against his will would represent a red line.

Sri wrote:

urbaNRoots wrote:Not very encouraging but fair. It's some change at least.

Europa League should be more exciting than our CL performances. At least we have a chance of winning it, if Wenger takes it seriously.

Lol. I can't wait for no name smaller teams playing exciting football to school Wenger in tactics and desire.

To pretend that we'd actually have a chance of winning EL is being massively complascent and disrespectful to the tournament.

We're as likely to win it as we are to win the League Cup. Because I can be absolutely sure that it is exactly how AW will treat the competition - as a Youth Champions League expedition.

And he'll crow about how it was a great learning experience for the reserves to crash out of the competition in the Round of 16.

urbaNRoots wrote:In recent years Liverpool, Man Utd, Chelsea have all reached the final of the Europa League, I don't see why we wouldn't be one of the favourites to reach the semi final at least.

And no, Wenger won't play super weak teams after the group stages. Wenger played his first team against Lincoln City at home ffs. He is desperate for any kind of trophy let alone a European Cup.

If Arsenal beats Chelsea tonight (18:30) at Wembley, Wenger will become the first coach to win the prestigious competition seven times.

The 67-year old Frenchman's contract runs out this summer. Many Arsenal-supporters would like to see him leave. There have been anti-Wenger protest-marches for months. "Nobody knows if he'll stay or if he goes, not even Wenger" is what David Ornstein, Arsenal-reporter of the BBC, said. "But I think Wenger will stay".

It's almost unimaginable that a coach, who's been protested against for months, would extend his contract. "Yet that is the way things are, Arsenal is a bit of a mess at the moment" says Ornstein.

"There are many different opinions inside the club, for example between the biggest shareholders Alisher Usmanov and Stan Kroenke. Because of this a stalemate has been reached and the time for intervention has passed."

En what about Wenger himself? "Wenger wants to stay, but only on his terms. That means total control over the club, like he's used to having. The club however wants change so the question remains wether or not Wenger wants to stay on as a manager if structural changes take place. The club is weighing up appointing a technical director (I think that's a director of football in English lingo), but that's not something Wenger is particularly fond of. A big-name technical director isn't even something he wants to talk about. He won't tolerate someone like Marc Overmars."

Before Wenger came to London the club was known as 'Boring Arsenal'. Ornstein knows exactly what that means. "1-0 to the Arsenal!" was the main chant for Arsenal-supporters at the start of the 90's. And they were proud of that. When Wenger came, everything changed. He made his team an attractive attacking machine and won silverware with it too.

Arsenal won the league three times in ten years, three times the FA Cup and reached the Champions League final in 2006. "Many coaches in Europe mirrored themselves to Wenger. Arsenal was the standard for modern and good football".

"The problem is that Wenger himself still believes that his methods are unmatched. He's not open for innovation. The club has invested in a data-system, video-analysis and other modern tools. But Wenger only uses those things he sees as useful. He trusts himself fully."

"The last couple of years the club has been overtaken by Chelsea, Manchester, but also Liverpool and Tottenham Hotspur. En that's not just on a financial level, but also tactically and technically. Arsenal is far behind Maurico Pochettino at Tottenham Hotspur and Antonio Conte at Chelsea."

Why are the protests this heavy? "The fans have seen the same pattern all too often. Arsenal starts the season well, dips in form around november and after the winter they're behind on all fronts. It's a form of boredom."

Ornstein thinks the resistance against Wenger is mostly prominent in a minority of supporters. "Ofcourse you'll see just the 'loud minority', the supporters who shout the hardest. De supporters who support Wenger aren't seen or heard. They've been spoiled by stars such as Thierry Henry, Patrick Vieira, Robert Pires and Dennis Bergkamp. Those solved problems on the pitch by themselves, something you won't see nowadays."

Say Arsenal loses at Wembley this saturday and the departure of Wenger is announced. Ornstein: "I don't think there have been any talks with possible successors. But there is a shadowlist ofcourse. The first name on that list is Leonardo Jardim. The coach of AS Monaco, Wenger's old club. Arsenal would kill to have a team like Monaco's these days."