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Re: Thomas Tuchel Appreciation Thread

Post by Robespierre on Mon Mar 26, 2018 12:07 am

He'd do well to Arsenal imo
But he'd be another Emery to PSG

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Re: Thomas Tuchel Appreciation Thread

Post by BarrileteCosmico on Mon Mar 26, 2018 3:12 am

INB4 Wenger renews for 5 more years

IMO a ploy by the Arsenal board to help bring Wenger's salary down

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Re: Thomas Tuchel Appreciation Thread

Post by Hapless_Hans on Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:18 am

He's not going to Arsenal

I know better than kicker, and so does everyone else

He's got a verbal agreement with a club since 2 weeks.

Has to be PSG or Chelsea

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Re: Thomas Tuchel Appreciation Thread

Post by iftikhar on Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:19 am

@BarrileteCosmico wrote:INB4 Wenger renews for 5 more years

IMO a ploy by the Arsenal board to help bring Wenger's salary down
Is he paid that much???
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Re: Thomas Tuchel Appreciation Thread

Post by Robespierre on Mon Mar 26, 2018 10:28 am

I like Tuchel, probably one of few non Germans to do it
Confirmed that he made a sort of miracle in Dortmund
Entertaining coach that 'd be good to watch in Premier League
I haven't read for much time @Sri , but I am sure he is working to take him in Arsenal

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Re: Thomas Tuchel Appreciation Thread

Post by RealGunner on Mon Mar 26, 2018 5:59 pm

Absolutely don't want this fraud anywhere near Arsenal.


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Re: Thomas Tuchel Appreciation Thread

Post by urbaNRoots on Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:07 pm

How is he a fraud again?

And why do better and bigger clubs want him?
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Re: Thomas Tuchel Appreciation Thread

Post by Firenze on Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:07 pm

I'd take Howe and Dyche over him any day of the week.
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Post by urbaNRoots on Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:09 pm

@Firenze wrote:I'd take Howe and Dyche over him any day of the week.


I‘d take them over Mourinho as well Laughing Laughing
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Re: Thomas Tuchel Appreciation Thread

Post by Firenze on Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:11 pm

@urbaNRoots wrote:How is he a fraud again?

And why do better and bigger clubs want him?


I don't think he's ncessarily a fraud but he hasn't done anything to warrant the hype he gets. Mentioned in the same breath as proven  great managers. I wouldn't want my club taking a chance on him. Big clubs should stay away IMO. Think PSG might take a chance on him though, he can comfortably dominate the league there.
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Re: Thomas Tuchel Appreciation Thread

Post by urbaNRoots on Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:14 pm

@Firenze wrote:
@urbaNRoots wrote:How is he a fraud again?

And why do better and bigger clubs want him?


I don't think he's ncessarily a fraud but he hasn't done anything to warrant the hype he gets. Mentioned in the same breath as proven  great managers. I wouldn't want my club taking a chance on him. Big clubs should stay away IMO. Think PSG might take a chance on him though, he can comfortably dominate the league there.


PSG, Chelsea, Arsenal, Bayern all want him as their manager, I‘m sure they know better than you or me.
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Re: Thomas Tuchel Appreciation Thread

Post by Hapless_Hans on Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:14 pm

Absolutely *bleep* gutted Hoeness *bleep* this up. Tuchel had been waiting for us to make an offer for months now. He even moved to *bleep* MUNICH. We're well on our way to becaome a 2nd tier club again. I'm in a really, really bad mood. This is unacceptable stuff.
Just hope Neymar's ego pushes him back to us soon.

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Re: Thomas Tuchel Appreciation Thread

Post by BarrileteCosmico on Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:30 pm

@urbaNRoots wrote:How is he a fraud again?

And why do better and bigger clubs want him?
No debate about better, but Chelsea and PSG are now bigger than Arsenal? How so?

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Re: Thomas Tuchel Appreciation Thread

Post by El Gunner on Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:35 pm

@BarrileteCosmico wrote:
@urbaNRoots wrote:How is he a fraud again?

And why do better and bigger clubs want him?
No debate about better, but Chelsea and PSG are now bigger than Arsenal? How so?


Because in the last 10 years they've both performed to a better recognition and esteem than Arsenal hmm

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Re: Thomas Tuchel Appreciation Thread

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:42 pm

@urbaNRoots wrote:
@Firenze wrote:
@urbaNRoots wrote:How is he a fraud again?

And why do better and bigger clubs want him?


I don't think he's ncessarily a fraud but he hasn't done anything to warrant the hype he gets. Mentioned in the same breath as proven  great managers. I wouldn't want my club taking a chance on him. Big clubs should stay away IMO. Think PSG might take a chance on him though, he can comfortably dominate the league there.


PSG, Chelsea, Arsenal, Bayern all want him as their manager, I‘m sure they know better than you or me.


1. I hate this Attitude

2. There's almost zero proof this is the case

3. Let's not act like any of these teams have spotless records when it comes to hiring managers.

Firenze is absolutely right when he says he hasn't earned the pedestal you and others have placed on him.

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Re: Thomas Tuchel Appreciation Thread

Post by rincon on Mon Mar 26, 2018 6:50 pm

PSG hiring and sticking with Emery is proof enough that you can't make the argument of them knowing best by default when it comes to managers.
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Re: Thomas Tuchel Appreciation Thread

Post by Unique on Mon Mar 26, 2018 7:43 pm

klopp could teach this guy how to defend as a team thats all you need to know about him. rofl

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Re: Thomas Tuchel Appreciation Thread

Post by urbaNRoots on Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:02 pm

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
@urbaNRoots wrote:
@Firenze wrote:


I don't think he's ncessarily a fraud but he hasn't done anything to warrant the hype he gets. Mentioned in the same breath as proven  great managers. I wouldn't want my club taking a chance on him. Big clubs should stay away IMO. Think PSG might take a chance on him though, he can comfortably dominate the league there.


PSG, Chelsea, Arsenal, Bayern all want him as their manager, I‘m sure they know better than you or me.


1. I hate this Attitude

2. There's almost zero proof this is the case

3. Let's not act like any of these teams have spotless records when it comes to hiring managers.

Firenze is absolutely right when he says he hasn't earned the pedestal you and others have placed on him.


There's proof, you don't want to see it. No one talks about Brendan Rodgers joining PSG or Bayern.

All these teams (bar Arsenal) have won major trophies in last few years so I'm pretty sure they are doing something right when it comes to selecting managers.
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Re: Thomas Tuchel Appreciation Thread

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:17 pm

Yeah don't agree, I hate that attitude as well.

The whole football club has some success so they can't be questioned is *bleep* stupid. Especially when football is full of absolute morons running the show.

It's every bit as stupid as the you don't know anything because you didn't play argument people fall back on.

As for Tuchel, what's the argument? because his career undoubtedly hasn't reached the success worthy of the praise you are giving him, it's been mixed at best so far.

I'm afraid the argument of papers link him with big clubs means he's earned his reputation isn't cutting it.

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Re: Thomas Tuchel Appreciation Thread

Post by Robespierre on Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:22 pm

Imagine to loathe Tuchel when you have Arsene Wenger
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Re: Thomas Tuchel Appreciation Thread

Post by urbaNRoots on Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:28 pm

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Yeah don't agree, I hate that attitude as well.

The whole football club has some success so they can't be questioned is *bleep* stupid. Especially when football is full of absolute morons running the show.

It's every bit as stupid as the you don't know anything because you didn't play argument people fall back on.

As for Tuchel, what's the argument?  because his career undoubtedly hasn't reached the success worthy of the praise you are giving him, it's been mixed at best so far.

I'm afraid the argument of papers link him with big clubs means he's earned his reputation isn't cutting it.


It's not just papers, he has literally held interviews with both PSG and Bayern. I mean you can ignore these things if you want but I suggest keeping an open mind. There has to be something about him if two clubs that want to win the biggest trophy (and one of them has won it recently) want this dude who hasn't even managed a club for a year.

Look man, you have to understand that there's a reason me and many other people rate him highly and it's because of his success in his previous two clubs at both European and domestic level. I can explain it for you if you want in another post if you are interested (I imagine not).
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Re: Thomas Tuchel Appreciation Thread

Post by Unique on Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:30 pm

@urbaNRoots wrote:
@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Yeah don't agree, I hate that attitude as well.

The whole football club has some success so they can't be questioned is *bleep* stupid. Especially when football is full of absolute morons running the show.

It's every bit as stupid as the you don't know anything because you didn't play argument people fall back on.

As for Tuchel, what's the argument?  because his career undoubtedly hasn't reached the success worthy of the praise you are giving him, it's been mixed at best so far.

I'm afraid the argument of papers link him with big clubs means he's earned his reputation isn't cutting it.


It's not just papers, he has literally held interviews with both PSG and Bayern. I mean you can ignore these things if you want but I suggest keeping an open mind. There has to be something about him if two clubs that want to win the biggest trophy (and one of them has won it recently) want this dude who hasn't even managed a club for a year.

Look man, you have to understand that there's a reason me and many other people rate him highly and it's because of his success in his previous two clubs at both European and domestic level. I can explain it for you if you want in another post if you are interested (I imagine not).
lets be honest here pardiola would win the title at bayern and PSG.

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Re: Thomas Tuchel Appreciation Thread

Post by urbaNRoots on Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:35 pm

@Unique wrote:
@urbaNRoots wrote:
@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Yeah don't agree, I hate that attitude as well.

The whole football club has some success so they can't be questioned is *bleep* stupid. Especially when football is full of absolute morons running the show.

It's every bit as stupid as the you don't know anything because you didn't play argument people fall back on.

As for Tuchel, what's the argument?  because his career undoubtedly hasn't reached the success worthy of the praise you are giving him, it's been mixed at best so far.

I'm afraid the argument of papers link him with big clubs means he's earned his reputation isn't cutting it.


It's not just papers, he has literally held interviews with both PSG and Bayern. I mean you can ignore these things if you want but I suggest keeping an open mind. There has to be something about him if two clubs that want to win the biggest trophy (and one of them has won it recently) want this dude who hasn't even managed a club for a year.

Look man, you have to understand that there's a reason me and many other people rate him highly and it's because of his success in his previous two clubs at both European and domestic level. I can explain it for you if you want in another post if you are interested (I imagine not).
lets be honest here pardiola would win the title at bayern and PSG.

Go back to debating Big Sam and Klopp mate.
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Re: Thomas Tuchel Appreciation Thread

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:44 pm

Says who? Fair enough if he has but I see no legitimate proof.

Also it's irrelevant if they are interested or not with relation to him having something about him.

Clubs make terrible decisions with regards to management choices ALL THE TIME.

Also you are acting like I never watched his Dortmund team, I did with regularity and consistently gave him praise for getting performances out of Mkhitaryan that nobody else really has.

I understand why people rate him but I like to live in reality of performances not in ability and potential and the reality is up till now he hasn't earned the level he's being placed in this thread.

I just don't like praising anyone at a level that I don't feel they have yet earned, talent and potential means absolutely nothing to me.

Although to be clear I find the idea of clubs or players automatically knowing better to be stupid not you as I don't want you to feel like I was offending you Smile

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Re: Thomas Tuchel Appreciation Thread

Post by Unique on Mon Mar 26, 2018 8:50 pm

@urbaNRoots wrote:
@Unique wrote:
@urbaNRoots wrote:


It's not just papers, he has literally held interviews with both PSG and Bayern. I mean you can ignore these things if you want but I suggest keeping an open mind. There has to be something about him if two clubs that want to win the biggest trophy (and one of them has won it recently) want this dude who hasn't even managed a club for a year.

Look man, you have to understand that there's a reason me and many other people rate him highly and it's because of his success in his previous two clubs at both European and domestic level. I can explain it for you if you want in another post if you are interested (I imagine not).
lets be honest here pardiola would win the title at bayern and PSG.

Go back to debating Big Sam and Klopp mate.

tuchel record.

Borussia Dortmund
DFB-Pokal: 2016–17

wenger record.

Monaco
Ligue 1: 1987–88
Coupe de France: 1990–91

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FA Premier League (3): 1997–98, 2001–02, 2003–04
FA Cup (7): 1997–98, 2001–02, 2002–03, 2004–05, 2013–14, 2014–15, 2016–17
FA Community Shield (7): 1998, 1999, 2002, 2004, 2014, 2015, 2017

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Re: Thomas Tuchel Appreciation Thread

Post by Unique on Mon Mar 26, 2018 9:00 pm

@urbaNRoots wrote:
@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
@urbaNRoots wrote:


PSG, Chelsea, Arsenal, Bayern all want him as their manager, I‘m sure they know better than you or me.


1. I hate this Attitude

2. There's almost zero proof this is the case

3. Let's not act like any of these teams have spotless records when it comes to hiring managers.

Firenze is absolutely right when he says he hasn't earned the pedestal you and others have placed on him.


There's proof, you don't want to see it. No one talks about Brendan Rodgers joining PSG or Bayern.

All these teams (bar Arsenal) have won major trophies in last few years so I'm pretty sure they are doing something right when it comes to selecting managers.


tuchel record.

Borussia Dortmund
DFB-Pokal: 2016–17

rodgers record

Swansea City

Football League Championship play-offs: 2010–11[32]

Celtic

Scottish Premiership: 2016–17[86]
Scottish Cup: 2016–17[91]
Scottish League Cup: 2016–17,[83] 2017–18[115]
went unbeaten all season.

plus a 2nd place finish in the EPL cheers


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