Messi case ongoing

by free_cat Tue Oct 06, 2015 3:59 pm

Charges against Messi for tax fraud have been dropped. His father continues to be charged though.
We are very fast to cry wolf, and we should also be fast to restore someone's dignity when he is proven innocent.

Edit: It seems it is not dropped.

by Harmonica Tue Oct 06, 2015 4:13 pm

When does Fifa restore him the Ballon d'Or 2013 winner?

by farfan Tue Oct 06, 2015 4:28 pm

a rich , famous person got away scot-free ? shocking .

by Harmonica Tue Oct 06, 2015 5:09 pm

farfan wrote:a rich , famous person got away scot-free ? shocking .

Schadenfreude

by RealGunner Tue Oct 06, 2015 6:09 pm

Would have been a shock if he was actually convicted

by Hapless_Hans Tue Oct 06, 2015 6:32 pm

Harmonica wrote:
farfan wrote:a rich , famous person got away scot-free ? shocking .
Schadenfreude

Not quite the right context for this word

by Harmonica Tue Oct 06, 2015 6:43 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:
Harmonica wrote:
farfan wrote:a rich , famous person got away scot-free ? shocking .
Schadenfreude

Not quite the right context for this word

Actually it is, for the motive of that post.

by Mr_Puyol Tue Oct 06, 2015 7:01 pm

farfan wrote:a rich , famous person got away scot-free ? shocking .

http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/images/2008/01/24/wesleysnipes_2.jpg

by Hapless_Hans Tue Oct 06, 2015 7:04 pm

Harmonica wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:
Harmonica wrote: Schadenfreude

Not quite the right context for this word
Actually it is, for the motive of that post.

Nope it isn't. The right context would be if Messi had been convicted (damaged) to farfan's enjoyment.

by Hapless_Hans Tue Oct 06, 2015 7:05 pm

Mr_Puyol wrote:
farfan wrote:a rich , famous person got away scot-free ? shocking .

http://taxprof.typepad.com/taxprof_blog/images/2008/01/24/wesleysnipes_2.jpg

being black nullifies part of the rich and famous though

by Harmonica Tue Oct 06, 2015 7:09 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:
Harmonica wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:

Not quite the right context for this word
Actually it is, for the motive of that post.

Nope it isn't. The right context would be if Messi had been convicted (damaged) to farfan's enjoyment.

Actually no, the result doesn't change it.

by Hapless_Hans Tue Oct 06, 2015 7:21 pm

Harmonica wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:
Harmonica wrote: Actually it is, for the motive of that post.

Nope it isn't. The right context would be if Messi had been convicted (damaged) to farfan's enjoyment.
Actually no, the result doesn't change it.

You going to tell me how to speak German now? Laughing

by Harmonica Tue Oct 06, 2015 7:30 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:
Harmonica wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:

Nope it isn't. The right context would be if Messi had been convicted (damaged) to farfan's enjoyment.
Actually no, the result doesn't change it.

You going to tell me how to speak German now?

No I'm showing you logic.

by LeVersacci Tue Oct 06, 2015 8:19 pm

Hapless_Hans wrote:
Harmonica wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:

Nope it isn't. The right context would be if Messi had been convicted (damaged) to farfan's enjoyment.
Actually no, the result doesn't change it.

You going to tell me how to speak German now?

by Kick Wed Oct 07, 2015 12:41 am

Harmonica wrote:
Hapless_Hans wrote:
Harmonica wrote:
Actually no, the result doesn't change it.

You going to tell me how to speak German now?
No I'm showing you logic.

Where are the stats to back it up? :coffee:

by free_cat Wed Oct 07, 2015 9:05 am

farfan wrote:a rich , famous person got away scot-free ? shocking .

There's a lot of rich and famous persons in jail. Spanish justice sucks, but if the case is bad they just can't do anything else than convict the famous rich person.

by farfan Wed Oct 07, 2015 11:11 am

yeah , it's the same justice system that was behind the biggest cover up in doping history .
an athlete of Messi's magnitude going to jail for tax evasion was never an option . it was obvious from the get go that he'll either get a slap on the wrist , or blame would be deflected to someone else .

by futbol_bill Wed Oct 07, 2015 4:16 pm

Isn't it the same in all countries? When you sign your tax declaration submission, you are responsible regardless if the accountant has manipulated the figures. In this case, the father is the accountant and certainly he should be penalized for this, but also the individual who submitted a false tax declaration is also accountable for that. He would likely get a much reduced sentence, but there should be no doubt about this whether he is a celebrity or not. Interesting that Barca have their president, ex president and their two star players all in legal trouble. Messi looks like he is getting away with this, but to say he is innocent is a stretch. More likely it is just not enough evidence to get him sentenced.

by Harmonica Wed Oct 07, 2015 5:40 pm

Spain is corrupt and nationalistic, it's common place that foreigners get haunted, even more common when it's enemy of the Real Madrid number one. Meanwhile nobody investigates Perez, Real Refdrids nor FIFA connection considering 2013 Ballon d'Or and how much it cost to Perez. In practice Franco is still alive.

by futbol_bill Wed Oct 07, 2015 6:16 pm

Harmonica wrote:Spain is corrupt and nationalistic, it's common place that foreigners get haunted, even more common when it's enemy of the Real Madrid number one. Meanwhile nobody investigates Perez, Real Refdrids nor FIFA connection considering 2013 Ballon d'Or and how much it cost to Perez. In practice Franco is still alive.

Pretty blanket statement. No where is the corruption more evident than with the Catalan politicians!!!

Are you saying that Messi submitting a false tax declaration is a a case of corruption, a foreigner being haunted?

by Harmonica Wed Oct 07, 2015 6:42 pm

futbol_bill wrote:
Harmonica wrote:Spain is corrupt and nationalistic, it's common place that foreigners get haunted, even more common when it's enemy of the Real Madrid number one. Meanwhile nobody investigates Perez, Real Refdrids nor FIFA connection considering 2013 Ballon d'Or and how much it cost to Perez. In practice Franco is still alive.

Pretty blanket statement. No where is the corruption more evident than with the Catalan politicians!!!

Are you saying that Messi submitting a false tax declaration is a a case of corruption, a foreigner being haunted?

Tax office already did settle the charges, like they do with every Spanish person. Last year prosecutor already asked judge to drop the case against Messi with no evidence, but he didn't. Now year after he does the same again, when there's no evidence of Messi knowing abou ti. So he dragged the trial one year on, because Messi is foreign and doesn't represent Real Refdrid and is enemy of them.

Neymar is on the investigation, Mascherano is on the investigation. Meanwhile no Real Refdrid players are under investigation. Do you honestly think Messi, or Neymar were in this situation if they played in Real Madrid? All logical points in the direction of corrupted system, nationalistic system, Franco system.

And I don't care about Catalonia or Spain, I say this as concerned citizen of on the most uncorrupted nations.

by farfan Wed Oct 07, 2015 7:18 pm

classical Harmonica logic .

a bunch of Barça players are in trouble .
no Madrid player is in trouble .

therefore , the only logical conclusion is that a conspiracy against Barcelona spearheaded by Refdrid is taking place .

by futbol Wed Oct 07, 2015 7:25 pm

ffs

The word logic should be renamed to "Harmonica" tbh.

"Yo mate, I brushed ma teeth and then ate ice cream and drank a can of coke."

"Bruh, where's your Harmonica? First you eat and drink, then you brush your teeth, not the other way round. Think Harmonical for a second."

:bow:

by futbol_bill Wed Oct 07, 2015 7:36 pm

Harmonica wrote:
futbol_bill wrote:
Harmonica wrote:Spain is corrupt and nationalistic, it's common place that foreigners get haunted, even more common when it's enemy of the Real Madrid number one. Meanwhile nobody investigates Perez, Real Refdrids nor FIFA connection considering 2013 Ballon d'Or and how much it cost to Perez. In practice Franco is still alive.

Pretty blanket statement. No where is the corruption more evident than with the Catalan politicians!!!

Are you saying that Messi submitting a false tax declaration is a a case of corruption, a foreigner being haunted?
Tax office already did settle the charges, like they do with every Spanish person. Last year prosecutor already asked judge to drop the case against Messi with no evidence, but he didn't. Now year after he does the same again, when there's no evidence of Messi knowing abou ti. So he dragged the trial one year on, because Messi is foreign and doesn't represent Real Refdrid and is enemy of them.

Neymar is on the investigation, Mascherano is on the investigation. Meanwhile no Real Refdrid players are under investigation. Do you honestly think Messi, or Neymar were in this situation if they played in Real Madrid? All logical points in the direction of corrupted system, nationalistic system, Franco system.

And I don't care about Catalonia or Spain, I say this as concerned citizen of on the most uncorrupted nations.

You do realize that Mascherano and Neymar are under investigation for tax fraud in Argentina and Brasil, not Spain!!

by Hapless_Hans Wed Oct 07, 2015 7:58 pm

futbol wrote:ffs

The word logic should be renamed to "Harmonica" tbh.

"Yo mate, I brushed ma teeth and then ate ice cream and drank a can of coke."

"Bruh, where's your Harmonica? First you eat and drink, then you brush your teeth, not the other way round. Think Harmonical for a second."

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