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Post by Doc on Wed Nov 08, 2017 12:51 am

Bailly, you really put Bailly there. Sigh.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:01 am

None of them have a case lol, Kane has the biggest case of the names mentioned but even him doesn't.

City are top by 8 points and look more likely to extend that than lose it and De Bruyne is the biggest reason why.

Anyone who has watched them play for more than 5 minutes can tell you that, Firenze has a track record of downplaying De Bruyne though and I don't really know why.

He's been the best player in the league, everybody recognises it lol.

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Post by El Gunner on Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:08 am

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:None of them have a case lol, Kane has the biggest case of the names mentioned but even him doesn't.

City are top by 8 points and look more likely to extend that than lose it and De Bruyne is the biggest reason why.

Anyone who has watched them play for more than 5 minutes can tell you that, Firenze has a track record of downplaying De Bruyne though and I don't really know why.

He's been the best player in the league, everybody recognises it lol.


I would dispute that. Kane playing and scoring and leading Tottenham as he has been certainly has a case. While yes it is true, he hasn't been prominent and consistent in every game, he is such a focal figure in this Spurs team. He brings out the best of his fellow attacking teammates, and he puts fear into opposition defenders.

De Bruyne on the other hand can be argued whether he is actually been the best player on his team. Time and time again, David Silva gets overlooked when he is such an integral part to the final ball in the final third. He is the linkage from De Bruyne to Aguero/Jesus/Sane/Sterling. He gives De Bruyne the space to back up, and play with more freedom and confidence. David Silva is an offensive technical warrior and magician, that makes this Pep City team click like it has been clicking so far this season.

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Post by M99 on Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:11 am

@Firenze wrote:Eriksen, Kane, Salah, Bailly

all better so far

can even argue Sterling has been better


No player from the 1st placed team in the league in the top 4, ok then

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Post by Myesyats on Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:13 am

@M99 wrote:
@Firenze wrote:Eriksen, Kane, Salah, Bailly

all better so far

can even argue Sterling has been better


No player from the 1st placed team in the league in the top 4, ok then

Yes... so butthurt Laughing

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Post by Doc on Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:18 am

Sugars coming back from the dead have Firenze all shook. Not even getting his top 5 PL rank properly. His duels with ES (now Kaladin) have also clearly taken its toll on him.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:20 am

Silva has been great, nobody is overlooking him. It just so happens De Bruyne has been better and significantly so.

Also Silva doesn't really give De Bruyne space, if anything it's the opposite. The reason why De Bruyne is so much better than everyone else is because he controls the game, drives the team forward, creates a ridiculous amount of chances and scores himself.

I don't think it should be underestimated how great he has been, there's been very few midfielders in the PL who have been this good over the last 5 years.

Maybe he drops off but as of now he's been at a level very few have approached recently in English football in dominating so many different aspects.

Right now this isn't a debate realistically, it's more of a question of is he the best in Europe and can he prove it in the CL.

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Post by Firenze on Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:24 am

Bailly was clearly a tongue in cheek inclusion. De Bruyne has been great but I completely disagree with him being miles better than the rest.
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Post by El Gunner on Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:32 am

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Silva has been great, nobody is overlooking him. It just so happens De Bruyne has been better and significantly so.

Also Silva doesn't really give De Bruyne space, if anything it's the opposite. The reason why De Bruyne is so much better than everyone else is because he controls the game, drives the team forward, creates a ridiculous amount of chances and scores himself.

I don't think it should be underestimated how great he has been, there's been very few midfielders in the PL who have been this good over the last 5 years.

Maybe he drops off but as of now he's been at a level very few have approached recently in English football in dominating so many different aspects.

Right now this isn't a debate realistically, it's more of a question of is he the best in Europe and can he prove it in the CL.


Can you list those aspects that he has been so significantly better in than anyone else?

Typical Mole as usual, makes the the conclusions for himself "Right now this isn't a debate realistically..." why are you deciding what is realistic and why are you trying to avoid the debate?

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Wed Nov 08, 2017 1:48 am

I just did lol, he's controlling the game, he's driving the team forward, scoring important goals and something I didn't mention defending at a high level.

Seriously just watch the games, everything he's doing makes it looks like he's a man playing against boys as everything is so easy for him.

Seriously if you watch City games and don't think he's clearly the MVP of that team I really can't help you. There's nobody on that team that has to do so many different things at a high level for them to win football matches.

I find this strange tbh, it's pretty damn obvious how much better he is. It's like watching peak Toure with better technique, higher work rate and Tactical intelligence and going nah there's better lol.

I'm sorry if I sound arrogant but I really feel like going by the responses in these threads you really don't get how much better he is.

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Post by El Gunner on Wed Nov 08, 2017 2:02 am

Well I disagree with you and most of the people here on GL if they can't see how integral David Silva is to this team and the performances of KdB.

Silva draws the defenders closer to forwards and leaves space for De Bruyne and Fernandinho to operate. Fernandinho is actually another player that aids in De Bruyne's space and ball retention in the team, he is also majorly overlooked at times. Yet still Silva is the most important tool to this City team, and the best so far this season. Ball retention and crossfield diagonals doesn't mean that you are running the game, when Silva's off the ball movements gives you the space and opens the channels for you to drive into. Silva is a genius. When he is on the ball he feeds his teammates with smart small accurate passes, to congest the a section of the field, in order to create more space again for his teammates including KdB to exploit. He has 7 assists one more than KdB, and because he is the player prepared to take on the opposition players in congested spaces there is already a higher level of difficulty to his assists, as compared to KdB who has space to pick his passes. Silva glides in and around the left, centre and right of the pitch like no other player in the league, and he does so with energy as well.

There are few smarter and impactful players in the league than him, mind he might be the best at it. He has been doing it for years, and admittedly there might have been a season where he eased off a bit, but he is better than ever before. And this article agrees with me.
https://www.mancity.com/news/first%20team/first%20team%20news/2017/october/david%20silva%20on%20course%20for%20best%20season%20ever

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