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Post by Robespierre Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:02 am

While you tried to survive for this winter, Nagatomo earned 1.5 every year : (

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Post by jibers Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:50 am

Ancelotti will be the next Roma manager.
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Post by Robespierre Tue Dec 01, 2015 1:20 pm

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First places with all the bigs in single file

And Milan has a calendar with :  Carpi ( A )   Verona (H) , Frosinone (A) Milan-Bologna (H)

Best league in the world ? hmm smoking
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Post by S Tue Dec 01, 2015 1:30 pm

RealGunner wrote:
ES wrote:Fabrizio Romano: Roma want Conte after Garcia exits


ugh


Ugh ? He would do a better job than Garcia

Heck he would do a better job than Wenger at Arsenal right now
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Post by Robespierre Tue Dec 01, 2015 2:07 pm

But definitely, Conte is much better than him
Indeed Conte 'd be exactly the perfect coach for Roma
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Post by Kaladin Tue Dec 01, 2015 3:10 pm

Apparently, Pioli has 2 games to save his job

@Conte i'm curious as to who'll replace him if he leaves the NT. Not a lot of good options available, with the exception of Di Francesco (i think he'll go to Juve tbh if Allegri botches up this season)
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Post by M99 Tue Dec 01, 2015 4:48 pm

ES wrote:Apparently, Pioli has 2 games to save his job

@Conte i'm curious as to who'll replace him if he leaves the NT. Not a lot of good options available, with the exception of Di Francesco (i think he'll go to Juve tbh if Allegri botches up this season)


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Post by breva Tue Dec 01, 2015 7:14 pm

Roma would do better keeping Garcia if he gets Roma through the group stage. Maybe, after two crazy suicidal decisions in the CL (Bayern/Barca), he has learned and won't make the same mistake again.
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Post by DeviAngel Tue Dec 01, 2015 8:51 pm

Nobody mentions we are knocking on the scudetto door again, ay?

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Post by Robespierre Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:23 pm

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Roma fans today at Trigoria ( the Roma training ground )

translation  " Enjoy your meal   rabbits ! "

+ 7 trunks of carrots
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Post by Myesyats Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:31 pm

Rabbits? Is this supposed to be an insult? Laughing

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Post by Robespierre Tue Dec 01, 2015 9:43 pm

yes in Italy " being a rabbit " if referred to a  man , means being a "wimp "
In English language you use " chicken " to say this. It's same  meaning, just the animals change
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Post by RealGunner Tue Dec 01, 2015 10:28 pm

Not a fan of Conte at all. He made Juve unbearable to watch and has been doing it with Italy now. Sure he can make Roma a 1-0 team who can grind out results to make it to top 3 and if that's what roma fans wants then of course they are free to want him as their manager. But I rather have Ancelotti than Conte tbh.

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Post by S Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:42 am

At the moment, what Roma fans would prefer now is consolidating their top 2-3 position more than playing 'good football' and losing 7-1 in Europe Laughing
And Conte is ideal for this.

Ancelotti will go to Bayern


Roma with their modest budget would be lucky to have Conte.
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Post by Robespierre Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:46 am

but for me Conte plays easily a gooder   football than Garcia ( " ball for Salah and Gervinho " . And infact when they got injured ... they 've not idea what doing )


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Post by S Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:48 am

Juventus have always been the highest scorers in the league with the exception of 11-12 season under Conte and that's more to do with having Matri/Borriello/Quags as your main strikers.
Again, another myth that he's only good enough for 'grinding out results'.
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Post by S Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:53 am

Robespierre wrote:but for me Conte plays easily a gooder   football than Garcia ( " ball for Salah and Gervinho " . And infact when they got injured ... they 've not idea what doing )

Agreed Robes.

Pathetic how one bad CL campaign has underrated him so badly.

Even at NT, he has a poor collection of attacking options to deal with.Eder is italy's best striker ffs Laughing
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Post by Robespierre Wed Dec 02, 2015 7:56 am

The Juve under Conte with Tevez was a socialist team who doesn't rotate around the Aplace as Allegri ( the last Juve depended  more on Tevez that Conte did ).
Indeed I think Conte plays a good football , the Juve under Conte was one of best Juve seen about it,  even this Italy plays football better than past Italy NTs that had a best quality.
He is a manager with ideas.
Anyway it's not even difficult to make better than Garcia in this.
Garcia is one-dimensional coach , carried by individualities, if Salah and Gervinho can't create chaos he is done
Infact this is one of Roma problems , they'have not a real game and not even a great defensive solidity .. although it'is a team for Scudetto .
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Post by Robespierre Wed Dec 02, 2015 8:02 am

S wrote:
Robespierre wrote:but for me Conte plays easily a gooder   football than Garcia ( " ball for Salah and Gervinho " . And infact when they got injured ... they 've not idea what doing )

Agreed Robes.

Pathetic how one bad CL campaign has underrated him so badly.

Even at NT, he has a poor collection of attacking options to deal with.Eder is italy's best striker ffs Laughing


Yes, what I said now Laughing

Conte got " bad reputation" for that last CL, but many forget he  got  the maximum the previous year, knocked out by Bayern at quarter-finals with Matri and Quagliarella in attack
I don't believe EuroMax 'd have got better than it Very Happy

Personally I hope to see with a abroad club after NT  because I rate him TBH.
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Post by Luca Thu Dec 03, 2015 4:37 am

Only thing I didn't like about Conte is obsession with the 3-5-2, he literally made that formation the focal point- all with only having one right back and no left back really Laughing

He was blessed with an incredible spine (excluding attack), centrally, Juventus was just so strong in the defense and the middle.

But what Conte brings is passion, he demands so much from his players and I think he can create a winning mentality with Roma (which is lacking).

I prefer Allegri because he is more calm, more flexible in his options and the way he approaches the game and he is a better "man" manager, in terms of his relationship with the players in my opinion.

Conte can do some serious damage control at Roma.

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Post by DeviAngel Thu Dec 03, 2015 6:05 am

Luca wrote:Only thing I didn't like about Conte is obsession with the 3-5-2, he literally made that formation the focal point- all with only having one right back and no left back really Laughing

He was blessed with an incredible spine (excluding attack), centrally, Juventus was just so strong in the defense and the middle.

But what Conte brings is passion, he demands so much from his players and I think he can create a winning mentality with Roma (which is lacking).

I prefer Allegri because he is more calm, more flexible in his options and the way he approaches the game and he is a better "man" manager, in terms of his relationship with the players in my opinion.

Conte can do some serious damage control at Roma.


What I like about Allegri is that he is on another level tactically above Conte, while as motivator he is under him. I also love how Allegri can develop a youngster.
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Post by Andrew Thu Dec 03, 2015 6:58 am

Conte is made for the PL tbh.

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Post by McLewis Thu Dec 03, 2015 5:49 pm

I personally am pragmatic enough that I could take having Conte as a coach. I think if he can bring a blend of results and good football, the scoreline won't matter much as long as it favors Roma. I'll take him all day, every day over Capello. We're still sore over that fiasco almost 15 years ago.

Rudi is really good at getting himself out of tough spots. This is one of those times. I think he can do it again. If he can endure 4 months of monotonous draws that almost lost him the locker room, I think he can survive 4 bad games although we must beat BATE. No ifs about that.
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Post by S Thu Dec 03, 2015 6:22 pm

Luca wrote:Only thing I didn't like about Conte is obsession with the 3-5-2, he literally made that formation the focal point- all with only having one right back and no left back really Laughing

He was blessed with an incredible spine (excluding attack), centrally, Juventus was just so strong in the defense and the middle.

But what Conte brings is passion, he demands so much from his players and I think he can create a winning mentality with Roma (which is lacking).

I prefer Allegri because he is more calm, more flexible in his options and the way he approaches the game and he is a better "man" manager, in terms of his relationship with the players in my opinion.

Conte can do some serious damage control at Roma.

I wouldn't say he was 'blessed'.He was the architect behind creating that strong spine afterall which included a lot of players that finished 7th in previous seasons.I mean he took over a midtable team and along with shrewd signings from Marotta , built the team from scratch and took them to the top.
If anything, Allegri's been blessed to have taken over a top winning team but fortunately he has been able to take the team a level further which Conte was unable to do.
Make no mistake, Conte would be a great hire for a lot of big teams out there who are ready to spend big.I think he would be able to enhance his reputation imo much like other top coaches around if he takes over a rich team.
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Post by Vibe Thu Dec 03, 2015 9:12 pm

Robespierre wrote:but for me Conte plays easily a gooder   football than Garcia ( " ball for Salah and Gervinho " . And infact when they got injured ... they 've not idea what doing )


Gooder football Proud

Dat Robespeak :bow:
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Post by Kaladin Fri Dec 04, 2015 8:33 pm

And so, Lazio is done, no cohesiveness in passing, crap defenders (Marchetti doesn't help, 3rd howler ive seen), fully expect them to sell FA in the summer.

They'll still beat Roma somehow lol
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