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Post by Mr Nick09 on Sun Dec 13, 2015 8:21 pm

Benitez continues like this and he will be gone in a month

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Post by chad4401 on Sun Dec 13, 2015 8:21 pm

why does the 4 attacker keep crashing the box as soon as the ball pass the halfway line? zero build up just can't see where the advantage in splitting the team into two in big games :facepalm:.

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Sun Dec 13, 2015 8:23 pm

Yeah that's the mark of bad coaching, players are not working on where they should be according to the position of the ball. No triangulation, to space control, there is nothing, just instinct. FOotball at a high level doesnt work like that, Villarreal are not Malmo

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Post by titosantill on Sun Dec 13, 2015 8:24 pm

oh but watch us go against mighty teams like malmo or getafe, score 8 and celebrate the "confidence booster" like its ucl....when this team faces the slightest trouble we become extremely clueless. in times like these we only need one guy to step up and pull us out, but the guys are so lukewarm out there its ridiculous. just hope we can get a goal early in the half
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Post by sportsczy on Sun Dec 13, 2015 8:24 pm

Rafa needs to adjust... you can't have 4 guys up the pitch and 4 guys low on defense and hope that 2 CMs can handle the entire middle. Freakin let Benz dezone at least. MAKE James play lower.

These aren't massive changes...

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Post by El Blanco Madridista on Sun Dec 13, 2015 8:28 pm

How can you play possession football when the front 3 just stay near the opposition defensive line and wait for a through-ball? *bleep* ridiculous. No build-up whatsoever, the front 3 is too static and none of the BBC comes deep.

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Post by chad4401 on Sun Dec 13, 2015 8:30 pm

that rafa tactics and not bbc fault, how is that concept escaping some of you?

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Post by El Blanco Madridista on Sun Dec 13, 2015 8:35 pm

I know, I've followed some of Napoli's matches under Rafa and the poor build-up was the major issue.

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Re: Villarreal vs Real Madrid

Post by Mr Nick09 on Sun Dec 13, 2015 8:37 pm

guys, as much as you wanna blame rafa for this, and he sucks, carlo had the same issues.

we just have never had a coah that understands positional play

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Post by Scuderio on Sun Dec 13, 2015 8:47 pm

yeah but i rather have Carlo than this fool
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Post by sportsczy on Sun Dec 13, 2015 8:56 pm

@Mr Nick09 wrote:guys, as much as you wanna blame rafa for this, and he sucks, carlo had the same issues.

we just have never had a coah that understands positional play

It's not true ffs. Carlo's issue was that he didn't demand depth in the CM spot and injuries destroyed him... nothing tactical at all. He was superb there. Rafa has the CM depth but his tactics are garbage.

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Re: Villarreal vs Real Madrid

Post by chad4401 on Sun Dec 13, 2015 8:57 pm

benzema picking the wrong game to be missing all these chances ffs come on now.

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Post by FalcaoPunch on Sun Dec 13, 2015 8:59 pm

Wasn't Carlos biggest issue lack of rotation?
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Re: Villarreal vs Real Madrid

Post by Mr Nick09 on Sun Dec 13, 2015 9:00 pm

@sportsczy wrote:
@Mr Nick09 wrote:guys, as much as you wanna blame rafa for this, and he sucks, carlo had the same issues.

we just have never had a coah that understands positional play

It's not true ffs. Carlo's issue was that he didn't demand depth in the CM spot and injuries destroyed him... nothing tactical at all. He was superb there. Rafa has the CM depth but his tactics are garbage.
Carlo was better than rafa yes, but to th stardards of other teams that play a positional game he was bad

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Re: Villarreal vs Real Madrid

Post by sportsczy on Sun Dec 13, 2015 9:01 pm

I strongly disagree Nick. We were positionally and tactically superb under Carlo. We just didn't rotate and, thus, were very susceptible to injury and changes in form.

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Re: Villarreal vs Real Madrid

Post by FalcaoPunch on Sun Dec 13, 2015 9:03 pm

Pepe puts in better crosses than Danilo lol
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Re: Villarreal vs Real Madrid

Post by sportsczy on Sun Dec 13, 2015 9:04 pm

Of course, being forced to play Bale messes things up a lot regardless of the manager...

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Re: Villarreal vs Real Madrid

Post by Mr Nick09 on Sun Dec 13, 2015 9:07 pm

positionally superb lol, can you even compare the way carlo's psg play vs blanc psg? it's like day and night.

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Re: Villarreal vs Real Madrid

Post by FalcaoPunch on Sun Dec 13, 2015 9:10 pm

@Mr Nick09 wrote:positionally superb lol, can you even compare the way carlo's psg play vs blanc psg? it's like day and night.


But we're comparing Carlo's Madrid and Rafa's Madrid
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Re: Villarreal vs Real Madrid

Post by Mr Nick09 on Sun Dec 13, 2015 9:14 pm

@FalcaoPunch wrote:
@Mr Nick09 wrote:positionally superb lol, can you even compare the way carlo's psg play vs blanc psg? it's like day and night.


But we're comparing Carlo's Madrid and Rafa's Madrid
that's my point, carlo doesnt know how to coach positional football, never has, not even in madrid. and the difference between a team that is coached to play that way and another that just fields a 433 and play with instinct is wide.

I am not saying we werent playing better im saying our occupation of the pitch even under carlo has been this bad at times

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Re: Villarreal vs Real Madrid

Post by Mr Nick09 on Sun Dec 13, 2015 9:19 pm

benitez is getting canned in the winter

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Re: Villarreal vs Real Madrid

Post by titosantill on Sun Dec 13, 2015 9:20 pm

it is for reasons like this i get ashamed when we get happy scorching pathetic teams for 8, yet once again, when push comes to shove and our backs are against the wall, we end up severely lacking....i bet we are hoping the tad lifts our ban against cadiz so we can score 6 against them and mess up against a team that knows what they are doing. i'll give my take on rafa later, he's useless
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Re: Villarreal vs Real Madrid

Post by chad4401 on Sun Dec 13, 2015 9:24 pm

tito you gotta be kidding stop trying so hard to blame the players, this 424 stuff is awful and some of the most amateurish stuff i have seen in a while, rafa clearly sucks and needs to be sacked, tried to give him a fair shake but he clearly isn't good enough.

benz should have got us a point at least.

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Post by sportsczy on Sun Dec 13, 2015 9:24 pm

@Mr Nick09 wrote:positionally superb lol, can you even compare the way carlo's psg play vs blanc psg? it's like day and night.

You're comparing apples and oranges. PSG looks to inch its way forward... Madrid is looking to hit you with lightning once you get in the final 1/3. It's just completely different philosophies.

In terms of executing within his philosophy, Carlo is superb. I love his tactics. I don't like his rotations.

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Re: Villarreal vs Real Madrid

Post by Adit on Sun Dec 13, 2015 9:25 pm

It doesn't matter if we lose right? All that matters is making Perez happy right?

Play the same stupid formation but no problem he won't get sacked bcz he plays all superstars.

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Re: Villarreal vs Real Madrid

Post by sportsczy on Sun Dec 13, 2015 9:25 pm

This one is the on the players though. There were a lot of good balls but we didn't take our chances. HOWEVER, we fell behind in the first place because our first half was a tactical disaster.

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