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Re: Jose Mourinho Sack Watch - R.E.S.P.E.C.T Edition

Post by Hapless_Hans on Fri Oct 26, 2018 2:09 pm

Prediction: Utd lose to Everton on Sunday and Mourinho gets fired during the week.

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Re: Jose Mourinho Sack Watch - R.E.S.P.E.C.T Edition

Post by futbol_bill on Fri Oct 26, 2018 3:25 pm

@Hapless_Hans wrote:Prediction: Utd lose to Everton on Sunday and Mourinho gets fired during the week.


Why don't we combine all these sack threads and rename it to Hans' revolving coaches thread.
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Post by guest7 on Fri Oct 26, 2018 4:36 pm

@BarrileteCosmico wrote:
@The Demon of Carthage wrote:
@BarrileteCosmico wrote: tbf he did set up the base for the success that came after him. The core of the team basically did not change in the post-Mou era until now.

That's actually a common misconception. Carvajal came after him. Varane came through Zidane. Ramos was already there. Marcelo was already there. Kroos came after him. Case came after him. Benzema came before him. Bale came after him. Isco came after him. Navas came after him. Modric got benched by him and only rose to stardom after he left.

So really, the players who brought so much success to Madrid were either already there before he came or signed for the club after he had left.

He absolutely has nothing to take credit for.

These are good points and you've made me reconsider. Still feel like Mou got Madrid to work as a well oiled machine which naturally helped the transition along (I'd argue that's why Zidane didn't need to be much more than a great motivator), but I'll agree that his influence was less than I thought.


You really think so? All the things you said there are "fading" theories kinda.

It's becoming a general consenseus that Mou DID in fact have a huge role in our success. Mainly he made Ramos, Marcelo, Ronaldo etc. hungrier, less scared and more big game performers. Notably CR became a big game performer under Mou.

Zidane being just a great motivator is a lie and I think most of the Madridistas are agreeing. Not saying he is neccesarily a bad motivator but he couldn't motivate this team anymore hence why he felt quitting was the best option.

I think he had a great influence but nothing larger than Zidane's influence, for example. But our big game performing started under Mourinho, and none can take it from him IMO.

The things Mou did for us:

Gave the green light for Varane
Turned Ramos into a CB
Made Ronaldo a big game performer
Bought Angel Di Maria (Big game player) and Özil
Made Khedira relevant lol
Won La Liga vs the best Barca of all time
Bought Carvalho (great CB)
There is more but I can't think of them right now
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Re: Jose Mourinho Sack Watch - R.E.S.P.E.C.T Edition

Post by futbol_bill on Fri Oct 26, 2018 6:10 pm

Lol, the day Perez brings Mourinho back will be the day I put my socio status up for sale.
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Re: Jose Mourinho Sack Watch - R.E.S.P.E.C.T Edition

Post by farfan on Fri Oct 26, 2018 6:19 pm

@futbol_bill wrote:Lol, the day Perez brings Mourinho back will be the day I put my socio status up for sale.


Replacing the worst manager in Porto history with the best manager in Porto history doesn't sound so bad on paper. hmm
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Re: Jose Mourinho Sack Watch - R.E.S.P.E.C.T Edition

Post by futbol_bill on Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:08 pm

Before you go posting something about a club, it would be better if you knew something about them. Saying Lopetequi was worst than the likes of Quinito and Mourinho was better than Bobby Robson is blasphemy!
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Re: Jose Mourinho Sack Watch - R.E.S.P.E.C.T Edition

Post by farfan on Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:36 pm

Bobby Robson:

Primeira Divisão: 1994–95, 1995–96
Taça de Portugal: 1993–94
Supertaça Cândido de Oliveira: 1994

Mourinho:

Primeira Liga: 2002–03, 2003–04
Taça de Portugal: 2002–03
Supertaça Cândido de Oliveira: 2003
UEFA Champions League: 2003–04
UEFA Cup: 2002–03


hmm


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Post by farfan on Fri Oct 26, 2018 7:40 pm

Come to think of it, the worst manager in Porto history might be that other Spanish scrub that they hired after Mourinho. Laughing I wonder what happened to him.
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Re: Jose Mourinho Sack Watch - R.E.S.P.E.C.T Edition

Post by Hapless_Hans on Sat Oct 27, 2018 12:24 am

Fraudas Flopas Laughing

still better than Lopetegui though without a shred of doubt

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Re: Jose Mourinho Sack Watch - R.E.S.P.E.C.T Edition

Post by BarcaLearning on Tue Nov 06, 2018 4:49 pm

Might be nothing new to some, but I think this is a great read, Mou is really past it it shows, and hes just going downhill from here, unless he goes to a smaller club or a smaller league somewhere thats more behind probably, or just to a place where the players and circumstances suit his own style, which is limited nowadays:

http://www.espn.com/espn/feature/story/_/id/25145480/jose-mourinho-last-stand
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