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Post by futbol_bill on Thu Dec 17, 2015 3:00 pm

There is a lot of talk here about club returning to have a sporting director. A couple of former sporting directors have been mentioned. I actually hope there is some truth to this, however with Flo you can't count on him making such a reasonable move!

There is one name that I think would make a fantastic director and that is Vincente Del Bosque. He has just announced today he will be retiring (from coaching) after this summer's Euros. He is a great assessor of talent. Madrid background, would be perfect guy for the job. However one big problem. He hates Flo (and rightfully so), so we are back to as long as Perez stays on the job ...........
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Re: Sporting Director

Post by The Demon of Carthage on Thu Dec 17, 2015 3:28 pm

Marca is reporting Real Madrid is trying to land Sevilla's Monchi.


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Re: Sporting Director

Post by titosantill on Thu Dec 17, 2015 4:31 pm

as you all probably know, i'm not so taken by sporting directors. i like them, and i think their job is important, not primarily to the football aspect of things, but also in terms of general sports, branding (not like the marketing department ofcourse), and holding people accountable (avoid the crap with the copa del rey). i'm more for the coach being given more authority, and not being placed as subordinate to the sporting director. they should both be on equal footing, not sporting director blabbing about the coach changing his coaching methods or what formation to play

for this reason i like monchi, he's done well at sevilla, forget their europa league conquests,(i give that credit to coaching) he has been at sevilla for like the last decade, when they were one of the best teams in this league under juande ramos, and his transfers have been consistent, shrewd and impeccable- signing of kanoute, sales of reyes, ramos, alvez and the moneys acquired till now

the reason i don't mind him, and the biggest feature i want a sporting director to have is - anonymity (not ted danson kind of anonymous lol). a sporting director who's hardly in the public eye, never says much, allows coach to take the credit and allows coach look like the boss, is someone i don't mind. i've followed madrid and the league for years, and monchi always flew under the radar, i admire that.
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Re: Sporting Director

Post by titosantill on Thu Dec 17, 2015 4:32 pm

its for that reason i don't want former coaches, they have the tendency to go into coaching mode, yet, if given the choice to coach, they won't take the job. they become like us fans,and that disrupts things. i never liked sacchi ; i watched his milan sides and take nothing away from him for that, but as a sporting director, he spoke too much.

i never liked valdano neither. and whilst del bosque is more reserved than both, not sure i want him, at least not over monchi, and not sure he'll even consider the job. he detests florentino, as he rightly should, and that's evidenced by him turning down opportunities to come back and receive lifetime achievement plaques from florentino at the bernabeau.

my point; a sporting director who lets the coach manage and choose how he wants to build the squad would be my choice, and not a director who builds the team himself and moves for players he wants even though he's not the one managing the team
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Re: Sporting Director

Post by The Demon of Carthage on Thu Dec 17, 2015 4:41 pm

It's gonna be difficult landing him though. He's one of the best, if not the best, and he seems pretty committed to Sevilla.


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Re: Sporting Director

Post by sportsczy on Thu Dec 17, 2015 5:26 pm

Not to mention it would be entirely cosmetic anyhow... Flo would use whoever it is as a puppet.

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Re: Sporting Director

Post by titosantill on Thu Dec 17, 2015 5:32 pm

lol @sportsczy, he wanted to use raul. i heard raul wasn't interested. that would have been very cosmetic, and would have swayed a lot of the madrid public. i liked raul, but i wouldn't have wanted such a move. inexperienced, and i'm not up for hiring people just cos they played at madrid.
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Re: Sporting Director

Post by chad4401 on Fri Dec 18, 2015 10:41 am

if the flo really get a sports director after this kind of season just for show, then I have zero hope for the club until he leaves.

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Re: Sporting Director

Post by Shamirr on Fri Dec 18, 2015 11:01 am

I have no hope. For me this is officially an abusive relationship. Crying or Very sad

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Re: Sporting Director

Post by halamadrid2 on Fri Dec 18, 2015 11:58 am

How would people feel about Pedja. He gave us ElPipa and Marcelo after all. I would not mind having him back. I thought he was quite good
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Re: Sporting Director

Post by titosantill on Fri Dec 18, 2015 2:17 pm

pedja had some gaffs too e.g. the registering of both huntelaar and lass when they had both played european competition. i won't blame him for the failures to sign villa, kaka, cesc and capdevilla (all names promised by ramon calderon), i'll blame calderon for those. but, compared to valdano and sacchi, pedja's okay. he minds his business, and never spoke about formations or any of those things. certain journalists are tipping mourinho for a madrid return. if that's the case, my guess is there will be no sporting director
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Re: Sporting Director

Post by Vibe on Fri Dec 18, 2015 2:27 pm

Wasn't Mijatovic sacked mostly because he said he will sign Ronaldo and he didn't?

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Re: Sporting Director

Post by The Demon of Carthage on Fri Dec 18, 2015 3:04 pm

@titosantill wrote:certain journalists are tipping mourinho for a madrid return. if that's the case, my guess is there will be no sporting director

Florentino denied those reports yesterday.


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Re: Sporting Director

Post by titosantill on Fri Dec 18, 2015 3:23 pm

i know. but its for that reason i posted that. we're all hoping such move isn't made. but i can't count how many things florentino has denied that have gone the other way.
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Re: Sporting Director

Post by halamadrid2 on Fri Dec 18, 2015 3:48 pm

Pedja was sacked when Perez took over. He wanted the same sporting director he had in his first stint

There is no chance in hell Mourinho comes back. By now everybody knows he wont be able to get along with a Club for more than 1 season. Doubt he'd want to come back after his mentally draining last season with us
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Re: Sporting Director

Post by The Madrid One on Sat Dec 19, 2015 6:49 pm

I sort of get the feeling that thinking about a single person as the main decision maker concerning the club's sporting decisions is arguably reflective of the current and arguably unsubstantial decision making mechanisms taking place in the club.

There should maybe be an entire committee formed of educated individuals that can help in constructing positive frameworks from which all types of sporting decisions can be made.

Lets say Florentino brought in a one man symbol in the form of a Valdano, Raul, or this Monchi fellow, how many and what kind of thorough and meaningful changes would that one person be able to organize even if Florentino were to give them authentic power?
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Re: Sporting Director

Post by sportsczy on Sat Dec 19, 2015 6:53 pm

is that you TMO???

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Re: Sporting Director

Post by The Madrid One on Sat Dec 19, 2015 6:58 pm

Yes, hi sports (hi everyone).

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Re: Sporting Director

Post by titosantill on Sat Dec 19, 2015 8:45 pm

@nicolas cage, i'm not all up for an entire committee. only becomes more bureaucratic and can get political. more importantly, all those guys will be on salary. i don't know the wages involved but paying a committee of people wages of what should go to only one or at max two sporting personnel doesn't seem efficient, i know madrid has money but with these fat contracts these players are getting i doubt florentino wants to start flushing out cash on sporting directors. i still say, as long as the manager is given the right authority without interference from the powers that be (florentino or a sporting director), we can manage. and if we must get a director, it shouldn't be a figure head or puppet move. he should know what he's doing, be experienced and let the coach  do his job
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Re: Sporting Director

Post by sportsczy on Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:50 pm

Nicolas Cage wrote:Yes, hi sports (hi everyone).

Good to see you my man!!!

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Re: Sporting Director

Post by halamadrid2 on Sun Dec 20, 2015 4:20 am

I thought tmo was permabanned hmm
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Re: Sporting Director

Post by shadexticos on Sun Dec 20, 2015 7:57 am

nothing we say actually matters. the most logical choice never gets chosen as long as florentino perez is there. Ancelotti is going to Bayern, Florentino Perez is our president, Benitez is our coach, Barca just won club world cup. MSN continues to shine. Nothing matters.

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