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Re: Zidane Sack Watch

Post by Mr Nick09 on Wed Jan 10, 2018 11:48 pm

terrible coach that rode on his player's forms to amazingly win 2 CLs. he is actually awful, the way this team plays football is awful. gone are ramos last minutes headers, and we now look rubbish. form has dipped and drawing 2-2 against numancia at home is  a "serious performance" what a joke this guy, mental guru clown, can't wait till he resigns.

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Post by Harmonica on Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:29 am

Player forms, never hear corruption and referee mistakes called that. rofl

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Re: Zidane Sack Watch

Post by The Demon of Carthage on Thu Jan 11, 2018 9:19 am

@Mr Nick09 wrote:terrible coach that rode on his player's forms to amazingly win 2 CLs. he is actually awful, the way this team plays football is awful. gone are ramos last minutes headers, and we now look rubbish. form has dipped and drawing 2-2 against numancia at home is  a "serious performance" what a joke this guy, mental guru clown, can't wait till he resigns.

I think Zidane is a good interim coach to sign in midseason if you already have a great team and you have just fired the first team coach. His quiet nature and class will bring peace to the dressing room and calm the waters while his pedigree as a former legend of the game will motivate the players to give their all for him. He might even win you something in the process.

But you don't want to have him as coach for a very long time because he's technically limited and doesn't have the vision or confidence to make the necessary signings. He'll do his best with the players he already has, but that's pretty much it. Don't expect him to thoroughly scout the market and bring you exactly what you need.

He's too afraid to make failed signings that he'd rather stick to the players he already has and hope for the best. A short-sighted vision, if you ask me, that might bring you gold in the short term, but in the long term you'll end up with an ageing squad and nobody decent to replace them.

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Re: Zidane Sack Watch

Post by sportsczy on Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:26 pm

http://www.marca.com/en/football/real-madrid/2018/01/11/5a5672c8e5fdea6d6b8b461e.html

Report on how our spending compares to the other European greats.

Wonder how Mourinho would be if he was still with us looooooooooooool.

I'd like to formally apologize to all Juve fans for calling them a poverty team who can't spend.  I no longer have any leg to stand on there.

Half expecting Galliani to get hired to so he teach us his mastery of the free loan.

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Re: Zidane Sack Watch

Post by Mr Nick09 on Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:36 pm

fraud. i hope he is kissing Ramos any chance he gets, Ramos saved his season last year

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Re: Zidane Sack Watch

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:43 pm

Inexperienced Rookie who all he had going for him was man management incapable of stopping a slide when it starts shocker.

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Re: Zidane Sack Watch

Post by Mr Nick09 on Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:46 pm

pretty much mole, he is inexperienced, but since Pep came in and destroyed Europe, experience doesnt mean anything.

people need to remember, there is Pep, and then the rest

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:58 pm

Ignore Pep for a second because i don't believe he's on his own tbh.

Just any great manager doesn't allow things like this to happen, slides don't happen under great managers they stop them before they start.

When i look at Zidane i don't see anything special from coaching and tactical stand point when it comes to improving players and adapting to opposition.

Never have, feel the same way about Luis Enrique. Zidane is a baby from a manager standpoint so he could very well improve but outside of man management i'm not seeing anything which any average manager doesn't show.

Also Madrid fans can confirm this for me but hasn't he basically flat out refused to signed players because he felt like the team being settled was more important? so the buying players argument doesn't wash as he's the reason they haven't been buying players.

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Re: Zidane Sack Watch

Post by Mr Nick09 on Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:09 pm

amen mole, spot on.

he has for the most part refused to sign players, and his message has consistently been: "do not change the team". We can speculate about the the Mbappe signing as much as we want but the bottom line is, he did not sign.

And even when we had a more than good enough back up in Morata, Zidane outright refused to play him to protect Benzema and the BBC. Any run of for from Isco and Asensio was stunted to protect the BBC. Any run of form from Kovacic was stunted to protect the starters. This is what he does, but then again, they gave him 2 CLs...

Just before the turn of the year, there was a report in Spain of him organizing a training session in the Bernabeu. he had players run up and down the stairs of the stadium. this is the extent of his tactical mind, he doesnt have one.

I can talk about everything he has attempted tactically flopping for the most part. the 3 man defense, the 442, the double fullback tactic, all flopped.

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Re: Zidane Sack Watch

Post by Luca on Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:28 pm

Maybe Zidane is suffering from wanting to be unanimously liked by the locker room and that explains his posturing regarding 'no new signings'

Its kind of unreal given Madrid's history and Zidane's own history at Madrid- his blockbuster deal from Juve, the teammates he had and saw leave and arrive.

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Re: Zidane Sack Watch

Post by guest7 on Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:32 pm

He was great in his first two season tactically but after that he has stopped adapting to the evolution of the game

As a man manager? Joke. Will hardly be missed by the team once he gets sacked. J Rodriguez, Morata etc. all commented on how he doesn't pick those who actually perform. AS just recently reported the players are starting to say the same thing. The hardest workers are getting overlooked!
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Re: Zidane Sack Watch

Post by Hapless_Hans on Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:09 pm

Damn.

He's actually getting sacked soon isn't he? No

Please keep him around long enough so we can get Tuchel first.
ZZ deserves some time ffs.

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Re: Zidane Sack Watch

Post by Harmonica on Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:12 pm

Officials and refs aren't carrying them anymore. I only see two logical explanations, Qatar money has topped them for Uefa purse, and there's a whistleblower among the refs, who blackmails everybody to make it better. Or both... hmm

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Re: Zidane Sack Watch

Post by The Demon of Carthage on Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:33 pm

I'm certainly very grateful to him for all the trophies he has won for us. But let's not kid ourselves; he's no longer capable of leading Madrid to success.

If I were him, I would hand my letter of resignation quietly tonight to Florentino and go while he still has the respect and gratitude of the fans.

If he truly loves Madrid, he'll go tonight. Clearly Florentino respects him too much to fire him because he would've crucified any other manager with similar results. So the best thing for Z is to not overstay his welcome and go.

Go dude, it's over. Just go...and take Benzema with you.

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Re: Zidane Sack Watch

Post by rincon on Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:55 pm

Its well reported how all the subs feel treated unfairly and overlooked regardless of how well they train cause they never play significant time. Benzema is done, he lost half the dressing room, the league is lost, he'll be sacked soon.
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Re: Zidane Sack Watch

Post by Doc on Sat Jan 13, 2018 8:19 pm

@Hapless_Hans wrote:Damn.

He's actually getting sacked soon isn't he? No

Please keep him around long enough so we can get Tuchel first.
ZZ deserves some time ffs.

I don't know about this Tuchel hiring but he'll be fired soon, probably within the season. Thought he could ride out till season's end but 4th place is now in jeopardy.

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Re: Zidane Sack Watch

Post by CBarca on Sun Jan 14, 2018 4:42 am

Kinda cool to see the pretty football literate base of GL talk about how overrated Zidane is and see our comments come to fruition. Same thing with Enrique

Anyone with a brain could see these guys were frauds from the beginning. Zidane was blessed with a lot of luck, referee and draw wise and a certain Ramos to keep his job this entire time.

Although the team itself was definitely one of the best in the world in general.

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Re: Zidane Sack Watch

Post by sportsczy on Sun Jan 14, 2018 5:30 am

yeah luck lol... 2 CLs and defending La Liga champs...  and it's all luck.

Just to play... the counter to that is that you need to be incredibly unlucky for CR to only score 4 goals on 83 shots in La Liga.  Think of that for a second.  Benzema has 2 goals.

Just to put it in even more perspective... we've created 278 chances so far and are projected to end around the 540-550 range at this pace.
2016-2017  522 chances
2015-2016  561 chances
2014-2015  540 chances
2013-2014  586 chances
2012-2013  533 chances
http://www.squawka.com/teams/real-madrid/stats#performance-score#spanish-la-liga#season-2017/2018#862#all-matches#1-18#by-match

This is La Liga only stats too.

And our defense is on pace to concede the least amount of goals since Mou's second year.  

The problem is we have no backups on the attack.  None.  So we don't have goals we can bring in.  That's the only issue...  one and only.  Our strikers' efficiency is less than 7% loooooooooool combined on shots attempted by those guys.

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Re: Zidane Sack Watch

Post by The Demon of Carthage on Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:32 am

@CBarca wrote:Kinda cool to see the pretty football literate base of GL talk about how overrated Zidane is and see our comments come to fruition. Same thing with Enrique

Anyone with a brain could see these guys were frauds from the beginning. Zidane was blessed with a lot of luck, referee and draw wise and a certain Ramos to keep his job this entire time.

Although the team itself was definitely one of the best in the world in general.

Most of us knew from the beginning he was limited tactically and was winning thanks to luck and the individual brilliance of his players.



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Re: Zidane Sack Watch

Post by Harmonica on Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:01 pm

Are the fixed draws, overruled goals, offside goals and reds the best qualities players can have? Imagine if somebody would have all those brilliant qualities. Oh wait...

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Post by sportsczy on Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:33 pm

Your hypocrisy is astounding.

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:55 pm

@sportsczy wrote:yeah luck lol... 2 CLs and defending La Liga champs...  and it's all luck.

Just to play... the counter to that is that you need to be incredibly unlucky for CR to only score 4 goals on 83 shots in La Liga.  Think of that for a second.  Benzema has 2 goals.

Just to put it in even more perspective... we've created 278 chances so far and are projected to end around the 540-550 range at this pace.
2016-2017  522 chances
2015-2016  561 chances
2014-2015  540 chances
2013-2014  586 chances
2012-2013  533 chances
http://www.squawka.com/teams/real-madrid/stats#performance-score#spanish-la-liga#season-2017/2018#862#all-matches#1-18#by-match

This is La Liga only stats too.

And our defense is on pace to concede the least amount of goals since Mou's second year.  

The problem is we have no backups on the attack.  None.  So we don't have goals we can bring in.  That's the only issue...  one and only.  Our strikers' efficiency is less than 7% loooooooooool combined on shots attempted by those guys.
you can't analyze football through statistics like this, all of what you posted in mostly useless.

Stats do not account for the quality of chance, which has been very poor in the past two years. We are having a very similar season as we did in 16/17, but we are no longer benefitting from late goals from Morata and Ramos. It's a big difference, so now we lose and we draws games we were winning last season.

Yes the players have declined in performance, but the coach is also not doing anything to change the trajectory of the team. All season, he has said, "we are good, nothing needs to change, things will get better". now we are 19 points behind lmao.

He is inexperienced, and clueless. Good morale is not enough to lead a team, and this season made it more evident than ever.

And whenever we criticize Zidane as a coach, can you stop reminding people how much he won? Fcuking Di Matteo has a CL, and he could not coach Arsenal B team right now.

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Post by sportsczy on Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:56 pm

why not?  Chances created, goals against, possession, etc.  all are EXACTLY in line with the last oh...  5 years...  which happen to be our trophy years.

The only thing off is the efficiency of our strikers that was north of 20%...  and has fallen to 7%.

Every indicator shows that nothing has changed other than our strikers' ability to take their chances.  It's not one stat... ALL the stats are in concert.


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Post by Winter is Coming on Sun Jan 14, 2018 9:59 pm

Holy shiz just realised after today win RM are closer to regulation then us Laughing

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Post by The Demon of Carthage on Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:00 pm

As Doc so eloquently put it: fire his ass.

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Post by Hapless_Hans on Sun Jan 14, 2018 10:07 pm

It's not Zidane's fault your finishing has collapsed. That is the reason for your predicament. Ronaldo and Benzema.
And we all know Ronaldo's and Benzema's status at your club goes beyond Zidane's authority.

Pathetic from Real fans to blame this on the one guy who managed to keep a stable team and win trophies consistently without going down the Galactico circus route.


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