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Post by iftikhar on Mon Jan 04, 2016 4:24 pm

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Skrtel, Milner, Origi and Sturridge are unavailable. I would like to see just one of Firmino, Coutinho and Lallana teaming up with Ibe and Teixeira behind Bently.
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Re: Stoke vs. Liverpool

Post by Helmer on Mon Jan 04, 2016 5:31 pm

Waiting for the day...
I think this is a good moment to be excited since we are so shit in league.

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Re: Stoke vs. Liverpool

Post by Curtinho on Mon Jan 04, 2016 6:30 pm

Clyne - Lovren - Sakho - Smith
Henderson - Lucas - Coutinho
Lallana
Firmino - Benteke

I think this would work best. We'll see.

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Re: Stoke vs. Liverpool

Post by Art Morte on Mon Jan 04, 2016 7:46 pm

We're all waiting for the team to turn a corner and start playing better, hopefully it starts here.

I'd like everyone to pay attention to how we attack with possession, where players without the ball are, how they move, how they link up with each other. Because that's been shite so far.
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Re: Stoke vs. Liverpool

Post by Unique on Mon Jan 04, 2016 9:14 pm

I hate to say this and I hope I'm wrong but we don't have a chance in this tie Sad Sad

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Re: Stoke vs. Liverpool

Post by Don't call me James on Tue Jan 05, 2016 1:46 am

Don't want to see Benteke playing.

Would rather go with Firmino up top by himself. With Coutinho and Lallana behind him.

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Re: Stoke vs. Liverpool

Post by Curtinho on Tue Jan 05, 2016 3:29 am

Why wouldn't you want Benteke in the side? He's like the only player that can score on this team right now, lol

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Re: Stoke vs. Liverpool

Post by Nishankly on Tue Jan 05, 2016 5:50 am

Get a draw, Just don't get battered.
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Re: Stoke vs. Liverpool

Post by Lucifer on Tue Jan 05, 2016 7:12 am

@Don't call me James wrote:Don't want to see Benteke playing.


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Re: Stoke vs. Liverpool

Post by Nishankly on Tue Jan 05, 2016 7:27 am

3 man midfield. 2 strikers upfront.

Mignolet
Clyne Lovren Sakho Moreno
Can Lucas Allen
Coutinho
Benteke Firmino



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Re: Stoke vs. Liverpool

Post by Art Morte on Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:54 am

Btw, is Teixeira injured or simply completely out of Klopp's plans, too? We had Brannagan, Smith and Randall on the bench against West Ham but not Teixeira... I would like to see him get a fair chance.

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Re: Stoke vs. Liverpool

Post by Fahim89 on Tue Jan 05, 2016 9:11 am

Henderson is out too :facepalm: :brickwall:
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Re: Stoke vs. Liverpool

Post by Nishankly on Tue Jan 05, 2016 2:22 pm

Texeira doesn't run enough or make decent decisions, He's always been selfish in the u21 games ive watched but probably because he knows his time is up.

He's older than Can ffs
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Re: Stoke vs. Liverpool

Post by Art Morte on Tue Jan 05, 2016 3:03 pm

It's not like Ibe or Can are making the best decisions, either. I'm disappointed he hasn't got opportunities in the first team - apart from one League Cup game - while we're subbing on players like Bradley Smith when needing to score (the West Ham game).
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Re: Stoke vs. Liverpool

Post by Unique on Tue Jan 05, 2016 3:11 pm

@Art Morte wrote:Btw, is Teixeira injured or simply completely out of Klopp's plans, too? We had Brannagan, Smith and Randall on the bench against West Ham but not Teixeira... I would like to see him get a fair chance.

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Re: Stoke vs. Liverpool

Post by iftikhar on Tue Jan 05, 2016 3:19 pm

The game starts at 2 AM What a Face Hopefully we have a game worth the trouble :coffee:
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Re: Stoke vs. Liverpool

Post by Nishankly on Tue Jan 05, 2016 4:34 pm

Ibe's fine, He had the most movement and directness in the WHU game, Can on the other hand can't be that dire at such an important role.
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Re: Stoke vs. Liverpool

Post by Curtinho on Tue Jan 05, 2016 4:51 pm

I still think Can is being given way too big of a role way too early for him. Maybe it's because Henderson is having his injury issues, but it would be nice to have a more experienced midfielder that can play more often in that role. He should be playing mostly cup games and learning from someone more experienced (like Henderson). For now I would really like Klopp to move Coutinho back into midfield where he performs best and takes the pressure off him of being one of our goal threats so he can focus on his best attributes a bit more rather than taking 5 shots a game. If we were to go with a midfield 3 right now I would like:

Lucas
Henderson - Coutinho

It has the most balance of energy, defensive cover and creativity. My back-ups would be Can for Lucas, Milner/Allen for Henderson and Allen/Teixeira for Coutinho (which means we need to look for a creative midfielder to deputize for Coutinho there). I think it would provide spark to our attack, too, because then it would start deeper.

That leaves room for Firmino/Lallana/Ibe/Benteke/Sturridge/Origi to operate up front in some combination of 2 strikers and an ACM or two wide players and a striker.

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Re: Stoke vs. Liverpool

Post by Art Morte on Tue Jan 05, 2016 5:33 pm

Realistically speaking Coutinho won't find himself being a CM, but Can might see the bench once in a while when Milner is fit. Although depends also on Henderson's fitness, his foot injury worries me.
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Re: Stoke vs. Liverpool

Post by Nishankly on Tue Jan 05, 2016 7:06 pm

@Nishankly wrote:3 man midfield. 2 strikers upfront.

Mignolet
Clyne Lovren Sakho Moreno
Can Lucas Allen
Coutinho
Benteke Firmino



Lallana in for Benteke and Toure in for Sakho.

Klopp goes for control of midfield in this game, It could work.
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Re: Stoke vs. Liverpool

Post by Curtinho on Tue Jan 05, 2016 7:18 pm

Looks like:

Clyne - Lovren - Sakho - Moreno
Lucas
Can - Allen
Lallana - Firmino - Coutinho

I like it. Total football in the style of the Dutch progenitors. Hup hup Liverpool! Big win coming, big win!

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Re: Stoke vs. Liverpool

Post by Helmer on Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:50 pm

who doesnt know Mortys love for the likes of Carrolls, Bentekes and their .... we play better football when Benteke is not on the pitch.

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Post by Don't call me James on Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:55 pm

Klopp and I feeling the same way about Benteke Proud

And we've played much better without him.

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Re: Stoke vs. Liverpool

Post by Nishankly on Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:57 pm

Ibe with his third goal this season, Also as i had voiced Allen is the most intelligent midfielder at the club :coffee:

He needs to start more.
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Re: Stoke vs. Liverpool

Post by Curtinho on Tue Jan 05, 2016 8:57 pm

I like Allen but lots of rumours he's being sold. Sad He's been our best player again...he deserves more appearances.

Also Lovren was playing fantastic until getting injured, again.


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