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Post by The Demon of Carthage on Sat Jan 09, 2016 9:25 pm

My god Carvajal, he literally bled for the shirt. You know I laughed when one of the commentators said "I prefer Carvajal to Danilo just like many people" and the other one said "Yes, and to me it's not even close".

Seriously, ZZ should never play Danilo, compared to Carvajal he's a freaking amateur.

What a performance from Bale :bow:

Everything is so good. We're so beautiful to watch.

5 star performance.

ZZ keep on working hard with the squad and keep making us improve.


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Post by Eneide on Sat Jan 09, 2016 9:25 pm

Great game...it is easy to see why Rafa had to go. Could not even organise the mids. Did not see much of a 4-2-4 today. Dani has just buried Danilo lol


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Post by chad4401 on Sat Jan 09, 2016 9:26 pm

@halamadrid2 wrote:Excellent game from start to finish. Ronaldo should get over not scoring ffs. Players are passing to him even when he is marked

Good to have Carva back


what why its so hard for the team to win, such a pos Laughing.

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Post by Perucho21 on Sat Jan 09, 2016 9:27 pm

I'd wait until the big games to make an assessment on Zidanes tactics

Good to see us play well and great to see Carvajal playing great

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Re: Real Madrid vs Deportivo La Coruña

Post by Doc on Sat Jan 09, 2016 9:28 pm

I really appreciated this performance. The Bernabeu needed a performance like this and as much as I want and can nitpick, it is nice to see positive and sensible football. Ronaldo was unlucky to not get his goal but he did quite well throughout.

Good start by the great man.

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Post by futbol_bill on Sat Jan 09, 2016 9:34 pm

Impressive.

- distance between lines, improved

- man management, improved, notice all players previously in dog house played

- better team play

- better team defense, even Bale and Ronaldo made tackles.

- only negative was Ronaldo's face every time one of his line mates scored!

It's only Deportivo, but it's a great start and impressive when you realize he has only had 5 days to turn things around.
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Post by The Demon of Carthage on Sat Jan 09, 2016 9:52 pm

I also like the fact that Z is such a classy guy. He didn't jump up and down when we scored, like many managers of other elite clubs do, and kept his cool while standing like a silent killer on the sidelines.

Class, if you don't have it, you're not good enough for Real Madrid.

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Re: Real Madrid vs Deportivo La Coruña

Post by sportsczy on Sat Jan 09, 2016 9:53 pm

Deportivo has been anything but tame this year btw. Ask Barca and Atleti (drew all 3 games so far)... they've allowed the second lowest avg shots against per game and this is the third time they were shutout all season (first since October). This was an impressive performance.

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Re: Real Madrid vs Deportivo La Coruña

Post by The Demon of Carthage on Sat Jan 09, 2016 9:54 pm

Only haters try to belittle this impressive victory Wink

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Re: Real Madrid vs Deportivo La Coruña

Post by titosantill on Sat Jan 09, 2016 10:00 pm

the bernabeu was really loud, let's hope they keep that up even when things aren't going so well. i knew they'd give zidane such a reception. from start to finish they drummed and chanted. i have issues with the defense deportivo could have punished us on a number of occasions in the first half....i'm not happy about that. yeah cristiano's desperation was becoming a bit of a bother. i wish he'd put in a tackle in every game, not just solely to get on the score sheet. i thought he played well on the right. and i got super worried when carvajal took that knock on the shin, the players looked motivated....but yeah defence, defence, defence and more defence.
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Post by titosantill on Sat Jan 09, 2016 10:03 pm

@The Demon of Carthage wrote:I also like the fact that Z is such a classy guy. He didn't jump up and down when we scored, like many managers of other elite clubs do, and kept his cool while standing like a silent killer on the sidelines.

Class, if you don't have it, you're not good enough for Real Madrid.


yes, i also particularly liked that he didn't pull any major fanfare like  step on the field and wave to the crowd before the game, just get on with business....let's see how this goes. for our sake and his i hope this turns out well. i think he wants to promote competition between isco and james, and i like that. not them playing together
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Post by Turok_TTZ on Sat Jan 09, 2016 10:15 pm

Fine fine Sports here I am, for what little time I'm in the U.S.

Told you guys a long time ago Rafael Benitez was a mistake. anyone who paid attention to his blog would have seen what transpired coming. Almost everything I've said of Rafa came to pass. though thankfully I wasnt able to see it as I was hired to fight ISIS in Syria for the past couple of months and only just returned in new years.

Managed to see Zidane's debut on my return. first madrid game for me in a while.

Zidane has learned well from Carlo Ancelotti, saw shades of Carlo's philosophy on the pitch today. I have absolute faith in Zidane. He shadowed the best in the business as his assistant and now is his time to prove himself what he has learned. there are some issues but thats just nitpicking at best for what was a 5 star performance from the former #5, Zinedine Zidane, for what was ultimately a 5 star debut.

Very pleased. first and maybe last game for me. I still havent decided whether to return to the conflict or not. Money's good but I don't feel like I'm making a difference seeing what has happened in recent time... I hope everyone is in good health as mine was under constant threat by scum for a good while.
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Post by titosantill on Sat Jan 09, 2016 10:30 pm

welcome, hope you're doing alright. a good first game to catch. you wouldn't have wanted to see us last week
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Post by Turok_TTZ on Sat Jan 09, 2016 10:37 pm

@titosantill wrote:welcome, hope you're doing alright. a good first game to catch. you wouldn't have wanted to see us last week

Thankfully ISIS scum are not well trained. but fools aplenty can cause problems for anyone. Our previous coach was Rafael Benitez. I haven't seen his matches in a while but I can easily imagine what has transpired since my tour in Syria. most likely he pissed off the team and lost what little control he had. his shit tactics don't help either. Benitez is a poor mans Mourinho without the man management and is tactically outdated. you don't need a dm in today's game. you just need everyone to do their job defensively.

we saw some of that today and the difference is night and day. Zidane pleases me greatly, attacking football with a hint of Carlo philosophy. A great balance with attacking intent makes for great football.
I can only see great things if Zidane is given time.
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Post by Perucho21 on Sat Jan 09, 2016 10:49 pm

Good to see everything is all good Turok. This is Bena from the madridista forum I just changed my name

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Re: Real Madrid vs Deportivo La Coruña

Post by Turok_TTZ on Sat Jan 09, 2016 10:53 pm

@Perucho21 wrote:Good to see everything is all good Turok. This is Bena from the madridista forum I just changed my name
I remember you m8, you explained this to me before.

I'm only here now as I taking a break (privileges of being a pmc). my site is still closed for the moment, only because I am not sure whether I'm going back or not. but enough of that.

How do you feel about james taking backseat for Isco? I think James is more talented but I am very bothered to learn since returning about him wanting more money for one who hasnt won madrid a title yet.
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Re: Real Madrid vs Deportivo La Coruña

Post by The Demon of Carthage on Sat Jan 09, 2016 11:10 pm

Isco played in his preferred position for the first time and killed it. James had his chance and he played well, though not as good as Isco.

With BBC nailed to the starting eleven, it's almost impossible to play both James and Isco and keep our balance. So it's not really a matter of James taking a secondary role. It's just either him or Isco. Today Z chose Isco, next time it might be James. But the most important thing is that both will have their fair share of playing time.


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Re: Real Madrid vs Deportivo La Coruña

Post by Turok_TTZ on Sat Jan 09, 2016 11:13 pm

Isco did a fine job though he needs to learn to balance his forward runs with his defensive duties. sometimes today he was a little too forward but considering what has happened recently, i will not blame him for any issues.

getting rid of that idiot benitez's ideas and removing whatever nonsense he tried to instill on this team will take time to adjust.

from today's result we're well on our way, just time is needed to perfect everything.
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Post by sportsczy on Sat Jan 09, 2016 11:22 pm

The issues defensively was more about Pepe and Ramos breaking the bad habits they developed under Rafa... namely, they've lost aggressiveness since the had absolutely no cover. Always played on their heels.

With Carvajal in there and tighter line gaps, they'll get more comfortable attacking the play as opposed to reacting to it.

As a side note... Kroos needs to step it up too. Whenever he gets any pressure, he loses the ball. A lot of the opposition danger came from him losing the ball in the middle or not occupying space to receive a pass. Needs to read plays a whole lot better.

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Re: Real Madrid vs Deportivo La Coruña

Post by chad4401 on Sat Jan 09, 2016 11:27 pm

isco killed it really? really? ok then

kroos was excellent ease up with criticism.

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Post by Turok_TTZ on Sat Jan 09, 2016 11:29 pm

@sportsczy wrote:The issues defensively was more about Pepe and Ramos breaking the bad habits they developed under Rafa... namely, they've lost aggressiveness since the had absolutely no cover.  Always played on their heels.

With Carvajal in there and tighter line gaps, they'll get more comfortable attacking the play as opposed to reacting to it.

As a side note... Kroos needs to step it up too.  Whenever he gets any pressure, he loses the ball.  A lot of the opposition danger came from him losing the ball in the middle or not occupying space to receive a pass.  Needs to read plays a whole lot better.
Everyone is still recovering from Rafa Benitez. Kroos has played very well for the first time in a long time. he did lose the ball but he will get better with time. I saw many positives with Kroos, such as his passing and coordination with modric though it is true it could be better as does the tactical awareness.

Having said that, first time in a while I've seen madrid midfield have control of a match even if its loose control. I feel varane needs to start but thats just me. Pepe needs to learn to compensate for his loss of speed as his positioning led to some moments for the opposition like you said. Ramos will be ramos. which is why I think Varane is needed but at the same time Varane was a little rusty out there today. some bad passing.

having said all that, this is nitpicking at best apart from pepe-ramos. Everyone else did an excellent job all things considered. I expect great things to come.

real talk though Kroos nearly back to his best in Zidane's debut. what kind of PoS was Rafa that Kroos was playing bad up until now? further vindication that Benitez an utter shit.
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Re: Real Madrid vs Deportivo La Coruña

Post by Turok_TTZ on Sat Jan 09, 2016 11:42 pm



Well then... that says it all about benitez don't it? pinche pendejo es Rafa benitez.
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Re: Real Madrid vs Deportivo La Coruña

Post by Nicolas Cage on Sat Jan 09, 2016 11:51 pm

Turok Molenation

I'd need to watch the match again but overall i felt like it was a positive performance.

The formations i saw out there by the team were consistently mainly in-between 433 and 442, and to keep it short, i think that unclear in-betweenness/disposition is not going to be desirable against tougher opponents.

Bale seems to have improved but he still lacks that constant movement and thinking intensity required at the top level i think. Too much strolling around. In the tougher matches everything will have to be more compact, more intense, and more error free but this seems like a good start.

I think Zizou's startling line-up and subs were pretty well picked, gave Isco the playing time he needed in the area of the pitch he most likes, brought in James and gave him some good time too...Jese...

Ronaldo is despicable. affraid
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Post by Turok_TTZ on Sun Jan 10, 2016 12:02 am

@Nicolas Cage wrote:Turok Molenation

I'd need to watch the match again but overall i felt like it was a positive performance.

The formations i saw out there by the team were consistently mainly in-between 433 and 442, and to keep it short, i think that unclear in-betweenness/disposition is not going to be desirable against tougher opponents.

Bale seems to have improved but he still lacks that constant movement and thinking intensity required at the top level i think. Too much strolling around. In the tougher matches everything will have to be more compact, more intense, and more error free but this seems like a good start.

I think Zizou's startling line-up and subs were pretty well picked, gave Isco the playing time he needed in the area of the pitch he most likes, brought in James and gave him some good time too...Jese...

Ronaldo is despicable. affraid

Changing your name does not hide your style of posting, TMO. I recognise your posts well as I was a capable admin.   Sports was right, you did make it back here... good. looks like coming here was worth it after all. in case you're wondering, I've already contacted tototo. dunno when she will respond but hopefully she replies to my email.

CR7 will always be CR7. I personally thought it was a great performance from everyone all things considered.

edit: shamelessly stealing this from SRM's twitter:
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Modric on Benitez: "I want to thank him for what he has done. But to be honest, I think the change has been good."
"Whenever you lose, someone always has to pay, but to be honest, you only have to compare this game with the previous ones."

Top kek @ Benitez.
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Re: Real Madrid vs Deportivo La Coruña

Post by Nicolas Cage on Sun Jan 10, 2016 5:02 am

Here's a graphic of our team's average positioning today Vs Coruna.



If you try to imagine the various things that this image can come to represent, they will surely mostly be positive. They go inline with the belief that the team has to be compact, hard working and efficient.

None of that BS Benitez 4231 experimenting with Bale as a freeroller (headless chicken) or CR7 in positions that imply more work than he is capable of .

A quick survey of our average positioning (courtesy of Whoscored) throughout some of our more difficult matches with Benitez such as against Sevilla (Loss), PSG (Draw) , Barcelona (****), Villareal (Loss), Valencia (Draw), Atletico (Draw) show positioning that pretty much varies significantly from that seen with Ancelotti and and so far with Zizou. Take that in as you please.

This graphic of us with Ancelotti vs Bilbao at the Bernabeu last season is also interesting.



VERY similar player to player with what we saw today. Bale had one of his best matches with us that day and his positioning was better today. Also notice the difference in midfield positioning between Isco and James in these two graphics; against Bilbao we played something that leaned more towards 433 and today we played something that leaned more towards 442. Isco's positioning is thus arguably more positively fluid (and more similar to what we played when Bale was out against Liverpool, Barcelona, Granada) whilst James' is not.

Interestingly, we won both matches (Bilbao and Coruna) 5-0. And Bale had two of his best performances when he actually came close to doing his duties.
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Post by halamadrid2 on Sun Jan 10, 2016 8:06 am

Clear 433 with our fullbacks not positioned too high up. As i suspected much better shape and hence our football looked better too.

I dont agree with you regarding Bale tmo. I dont think Bale ever went cold this game. He even filled in at RB and had a good tackle in our box that prevented a chance for them. I dont have a single critiscm of Bale. No more run in a straight line, good chemistry with Carvajal, in the box for crosses but not too high up when we have them ball, doesnt loose the ball and had some nice dribbles to get past players. Very happy with his performance

This is the first game under our new coac though. Teams usually play well when this happens. The toughest week is going to be the CL week which is followed by Atleti. We beat them and Zidane gets my blessing

Edit: i was wondering whete Benzema was then i realised ronaldo blocks it lol
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