Carlo Ancelotti questions Benítez's sacking: "Is it really always the manager's fault at Real Madrid?"

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Post by titosantill on Mon Jan 11, 2016 8:04 pm

@futbol_bill, i heard of bravo when he wanted to run the last time. and he backed down. that tells me he wasn't ready; at least not from a financial standpoint. and that was less than five years ago, i doubt he's ready now. as much as we may not like it, the financial aspects are crucial to running a club such as this. i agree with you, zidane messing up will definitely spell the end of florentino...but i would still like to know that its someone reasonable taking the reigns, and someone who at least is fiscally responsibe. the devil i know is better than the angel i don't.

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Post by chad4401 on Mon Jan 11, 2016 8:55 pm

@Valkyrja wrote:
@chad4401 wrote:bill is right no matter who predicted what, carlo sacking was earned, what if rafa had us playing great? what then?

rafa overall project might have failed, but he did some good with benz and bale, finally proving that cr carrying madrid is a hoax, now everybody without a doubt have to acknowledge it, something carlo wouldn't have done, so that a lone makes sacking carlo worth it.


they did good, but the worst start of a season we've had in 6 years came at the same time CR's form dropped. Benz and Bale did sth wrong I guess.


cr so called form dropping magically started happening, when bale/benz are putting up number instead of serving him,  that not rafa faults, the ultimate goal scorer ain't as ultimate as you think.

the club as had bad starts under carlo and mou too, the problem was tactics and how he handled the players, end of the day he at least loosen the grip cr had on the attack, and others are stepping up and not backing down no matter how salty he acts, and that very beneficial to the team going forward, carlo would let things remained as before that why sacking him was a good idea.

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Post by titosantill on Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:30 pm

i don't know if i can credit rafa for "loosening the grip on cr"...for a couple of reasons; we don't know how zidane plans to use cristiano (so we don't know if any grip is loosened just yet) two cristiano was still taking all the pks and free kicks even under rafa so not much loosening there, and most importantly, cristiano was playing like utter crap against sensible sides...him playing like utter crap does not equate to rafa loosening the grip on him. cr's been playing this way for quite a bit now, doing nothing against juve and then scoring like 80 against getafe the next day (even though we had lost the league)....you give rafa too much props by saying he loosened the grip. cr's poor form loosened his own grip
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Post by titosantill on Mon Jan 11, 2016 10:32 pm

oh and the fact that he never substituted cristiano from any game, yet took out benzema even on nights he scored like valencai, shows he did not loosen anything.
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Post by sportsczy on Mon Jan 11, 2016 11:03 pm

In any case, if Zidane fails, i would suggest Jorge Sampaoli of Chile NT... or Laurent Blanc of PSG.

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Re: Carlo Ancelotti questions Benítez's sacking: "Is it really always the manager's fault at Real Madrid?"

Post by Pedram on Tue Jan 12, 2016 1:58 pm

Sacking Carlo would've been the right move if we were going to hire Klopp.

Flo acted recklessly without thinking it through, first we should've contacted Klopp and asked him if he was interested in the job and then proceed to sack Carlo.

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Post by Turok_TTZ on Tue Jan 12, 2016 3:11 pm

@sportsczy wrote:In any case, if Zidane fails, i would suggest Jorge Sampaoli of Chile NT... or Laurent Blanc of PSG.

Yes to Laurent Blanc.

Questionable on Sampaoli... Main reason? Man management. I don't think he has bad people skills but he may see similar problems with Benitez in regards to being respected by the players (particularly the ones with the egos).

idiots like CR7 will probably never have heard of Sampaoli top kek.
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Post by Adit on Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:13 pm

Klopp would have been a huge failure imo. No way he can get to play his running down football with this squad. Absolutely no way CR , Benzema and Bale's work rate are good enough for klopps football. Let's be honest his game is all about winning the ball back spectacularly.. If he can't do that and is asked to play the 'normal' way then he is nothing special.

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Re: Carlo Ancelotti questions Benítez's sacking: "Is it really always the manager's fault at Real Madrid?"

Post by Mr Nick09 on Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:21 pm

Klopp will regret going to pool, he had a goldmine level of talent at dortmund, and his team went with the talent he had available. The chances that the he finds the same level of talent at pool and create a top team are very low. Top managers can only produce at high level with high level talent, specially when there is expectation.


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Post by sportsczy on Tue Jan 12, 2016 4:31 pm

@Mr Nick09 wrote:Klopp will regret going to pool, he had a goldmine level of talent at dortmund, and his team went with the talent he had available. The chances that the he finds the same level of talent at pool and create a top team are very low. Top managers can only produce at high level with high level talent, specially when there is expectation.


Yeah... he's going to have to attract talent to Liverpool while the glitter about him still shines. Once the glitter goes, he's doomed.

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Re: Carlo Ancelotti questions Benítez's sacking: "Is it really always the manager's fault at Real Madrid?"

Post by Mr Nick09 on Tue Jan 12, 2016 5:21 pm

As far as im concerned he is already doomed and its just going to unwind slowly

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Re: Carlo Ancelotti questions Benítez's sacking: "Is it really always the manager's fault at Real Madrid?"

Post by Adit on Wed Jan 13, 2016 12:40 pm

Imo more than the talent what is going to affect Klopp is lack of winter break, physicality of pl and generally more number of games.

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