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Re: What's the problem with James?

Post by Zees on Wed Jul 27, 2016 8:05 pm

Didn't he train in Colombia with his old club to get fit for the season? not saying it compensates for him not coming early but it's at least something.

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Re: What's the problem with James?

Post by halamadrid2 on Wed Jul 27, 2016 9:05 pm

That's as much of a training as Ramos jogging on the beach imo. It is ZZ he needs to convince not that colombian team.

Also I just read on Marca that Navas only had 4 days break after the season ended. At first it was forcasted that he would miss the start of the season but now it is reported that he will be back before the Super Cup. That's proper dedication. Doesn't James have a dodgy shoulder or was that all lies?
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Re: What's the problem with James?

Post by FalcaoPunch on Thu Jul 28, 2016 6:21 am

Don't think the shoulder is a lie, it's definitely tweaked. Happened at the Roma away game and again during Copa America. I'm guessing it's the same thing Ramos has going on with his shoulder.
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Re: What's the problem with James?

Post by shadexticos on Fri Jul 29, 2016 10:03 am

I guess my prediction would come to pass.
Asensio played the first match and everyone is already praising him - rightfully.

Before the match, i always saw asensio as a player with a James abilities but more.
He can do all James can do except shoot as good as him.
But he also has some qualities James lacks - speed, ability to get out of tight spaces with his dribbling skills and ability to play as a winger and not just a RCM or RM.

When you line James up on the right, you have a RCM or RM,
but when you line Asensio in that same position, you have a RCM, RM and a RW..
Two more good preseason performances from Asensio and James is losing his spot..

I had big hopes for James..at some point, i even predicted him to be the only player capable of breaking the messi Ronaldo duopoly..
Stupid player.

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Re: What's the problem with James?

Post by Valkyrja on Fri Jul 29, 2016 11:53 am

Yeah, Asensio's future is certainly as a right winger. Regarding James, he's a mercurial talent, a classic 10. He was great for Carlo on the right and in that LCM role but behind the striker he's deadly. I think that given a full season behind the striker he can bang 25-25 goals/assists. He's that good imo

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Re: What's the problem with James?

Post by FennecFox7 on Fri Jul 29, 2016 12:22 pm

No one is arguing that he isn't that good. His attitude needs to change. This is Real Madrid, we have some of the best players in the world, but if you work hard you WILL get your chance

Lucas, Nacho, etc.

You know, even Benzema was in a similar situation with Pelegrini if you remember. What did he do with mou? Say what you want about mourinho and you're probably right but he lit a fire under karims ass. Now he is easily one of our most important players

Let's see if zidane will do the same

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Re: What's the problem with James?

Post by Valkyrja on Fri Jul 29, 2016 12:52 pm

I agree but I think that his poor form last season wasn't only due to his bad time with Rafa. He had been unplayable in the first game against Betis and I think that the injury killed his rhythm. He never got a run of games afterwards. Then the fans turned on him and that really killed his season. He's a confidence player, he needs to be loved. He reminds me of Dinho in that aspect. Like every artist out there, he needs a crowd.

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Re: What's the problem with James?

Post by sportsczy on Fri Jul 29, 2016 12:57 pm

It's more than attitude. He has to adapt how he plays to what the team needs... there is a middle ground there. So far, he either compromised too much and looked toothless or played excessively for himself.

We're playing James out of position, however. That's on us. Buying James to play CM is the height of stupidity.

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Re: What's the problem with James?

Post by shadexticos on Fri Jul 29, 2016 3:21 pm

lets face it, we cant have james on our team beyond one more season..even if he returns tk being james of 2 seasons ago, he is never goin to bench BBC and TLC Would keep caressing the pitch for at least 2 more seasons....pun intended
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Re: What's the problem with James?

Post by Cyborg on Fri Jul 29, 2016 4:07 pm

Valkyrja wrote:Yeah, Asensio's future is certainly as a right winger. Regarding James, he's a mercurial talent, a classic 10. He was great for Carlo on the right and in that LCM role but behind the striker he's deadly. I think that given a full season behind the striker he can bang 25-25 goals/assists. He's that good imo


When he played on the right hand side of the front three, he was good.

He was terrible and is always terrible playing as a central midfielder. Always losing the ball, poor movement and lacking the ability to get out of trouble when closed down.

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Re: What's the problem with James?

Post by futbol_bill on Fri Jul 29, 2016 4:16 pm

Cyborg wrote:
Valkyrja wrote:Yeah, Asensio's future is certainly as a right winger. Regarding James, he's a mercurial talent, a classic 10. He was great for Carlo on the right and in that LCM role but behind the striker he's deadly. I think that given a full season behind the striker he can bang 25-25 goals/assists. He's that good imo


When he played on the right hand side of the front three, he was good.

He was terrible and is always terrible playing as a central midfielder. Always losing the ball, poor movement and lacking the ability to get out of trouble when closed down.


You got all that by observing a rookie for 45 minutes in first friendly of training camp?
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Re: What's the problem with James?

Post by Cyborg on Fri Jul 29, 2016 4:32 pm

futbol_bill wrote:
Cyborg wrote:
Valkyrja wrote:Yeah, Asensio's future is certainly as a right winger. Regarding James, he's a mercurial talent, a classic 10. He was great for Carlo on the right and in that LCM role but behind the striker he's deadly. I think that given a full season behind the striker he can bang 25-25 goals/assists. He's that good imo


When he played on the right hand side of the front three, he was good.

He was terrible and is always terrible playing as a central midfielder. Always losing the ball, poor movement and lacking the ability to get out of trouble when closed down.


You got all that by observing a rookie for 45 minutes in first friendly of training camp?


If it wasn't clear, I was commenting on James.

Asensio is great.

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Re: What's the problem with James?

Post by FennecFox7 on Fri Jul 29, 2016 9:51 pm

Let's not make excuses for James. "He can't play cm". Yes, he can. That sob has some amazing talent. If Isco can at least try to do it james has no excuse playing poorly there. This "out of position" stuff is bs. You either have it or you don't.
He has the talent, now it's about working hard

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Re: What's the problem with James?

Post by shadexticos on Mon Aug 01, 2016 2:02 pm

so according to this report here, Zidane will be looking to sell either Isco or James as a result of Asensio's performances.
http://www.managingmadrid.com/2016/8/1/12340288/asensio-earns-a-spot-in-real-madrids-first-team

Now James has to be the fall guy for alot of reasons.
Financially, he will fetch us more.
considering that Asensio is a Left footed player, if we want to play a 442 with a LCM and RCM, Asensio can take up the right while Isco can take up the left side. Having two left footers on either side will reduce the efficacy of the system.

Also, Isco can adapt to more positions than James and he is learning to complain less about his lack of first team shirt.

Stupid player resumed preseason late and shot himself in the foot. We dont need such players in our team. Players who arent willing to sacrifice their hedonistic proclivities for their professional ambition. I am dissapointed in James.

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Re: What's the problem with James?

Post by Cyborg on Mon Dec 19, 2016 6:20 pm

who needs yah.

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Re: What's the problem with James?

Post by FalcaoPunch on Tue Dec 20, 2016 4:46 pm

It's probably best that he leave. He's obviously frustrated and wants playing time, I can't blame him for that.

There's still however a time and a place to talk about such matters as Ramos pointed out. James hasn't been up to the level that is expected and that falls on him. He's been given chances but the performances don't merit a starting spot. A couple decent performances here and there but yeah can't lie I'm disappointed
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