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Post by Valkyrja Thu Feb 18, 2016 12:54 pm

A fast player who can dribble well, who can take the ball and drive it into the box. Someone like Eden Hazard, Lucas Moura, Riyad Mahrez idk. At the moment we only have Marcelo who is a goddamn brilliant dribbler but he plays left-back. Isco and Modric are great dribbler but are slow, can't penetrate a defense. Kovacic and Jese, well, we need to see more from them, they've both played very little yet. Bale is fast but that's all. Benzema and James are neither. To some extent Cristiano might do that, but he's not that consistent at it.
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Post by Thimmy Thu Feb 18, 2016 1:14 pm

Valkyrja wrote:A fast player who can dribble well, who can take the ball and drive it into the box. Someone like Eden Hazard, Lucas Moura, Riyad Mahrez idk. At the moment we only have Marcelo who is a goddamn brilliant dribbler but he plays left-back. Isco and Modric are great dribbler but are slow, can't penetrate a defense. Kovacic and Jese, well, we need to see more from them, they've both played very little yet. Bale is fast but that's all. Benzema and James are neither. To some extent Cristiano might do that, but he's not that consistent at it.


Cristiano isn't consistent at giving a damn, to be fair. Sometimes, he just looks like he's thinking "ok, I guess I'll try and get past this guy. If I lose the ball.. whatever". Other times, he moves fast, you can clearly tell that he, at the very least, has a clear intention of advancing towards the goal, he works harder and there's more of an element of urgency to his game. No one expects him to run for his life in every game, but I think it's a mystery how often he puts minimal effort into his performances. Maybe he thinks that, as long as he's able to poach a goal, then he's done his job. I don't know. I do know that both him and the club would've been far better off if indifference wasn't such a substantial part of his game. I'm sure people would disagree with me about it, but his tendency to look lackluster or indifferent has been present for as long as I've been watching him play. It's not excluse to him, of course, most players have off games every now and then. In Ronaldo's case, though, I think it occurs relatively often in significant matches.
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Post by FennecFox7 Fri Feb 19, 2016 5:03 am

I second Mahrez. Dude's the real deal.
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Post by Mr Nick09 Fri Feb 19, 2016 6:18 am

real deal based off what? i find it pretty funny how you badmouth Hazard in one thread and hype Mahrez in here, calm down with the hype, the guy is your countryman so what? lol
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Post by Valkyrja Fri Feb 19, 2016 8:16 am

I've just given some examples, there are others players around who could be bought. I just think that we lack a player like that, someone who can penetrate a defence
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Post by halamadrid2 Fri Feb 19, 2016 12:46 pm

We had them and we sold them. What this team needs right now is continuity, we have the players now just try to go a couple of seasons without selling everyone and i am happy
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Post by Valkyrja Fri Feb 19, 2016 1:47 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:We had them and we sold them. What this team needs right now is continuity, we have the players now just try to go a couple of seasons without selling everyone and i am happy


Forgot to mention, they also need to have decent decision making
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Post by futbol_bill Fri Feb 19, 2016 3:23 pm

halamadrid2 wrote:We had them and we sold them. What this team needs right now is continuity, we have the players now just try to go a couple of seasons without selling everyone and i am happy


Continuity!!! You do realize that the core of this team has been together for 6 / 7 years now! The problem is the newer additions have not addressed our weaker areas. I believe this is the year where Flo is going to change much of that core that hasn't succeeded now under 5 coaches.

back to op, our basic problem is lack of balance particularly with defensive focus in midfield. When we are playing offensive futbol, there is nothing wrong with the talent we have. Sure we would like to improve some aspects of offensive talent, but we do have some of the best offensive weapons in the world, it's just inconsistent.
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Post by guest7 Fri Feb 19, 2016 4:38 pm

You mean Messi? We kinda sold the closest player you can get to him - Angel Di Maria. With Bale I think we need Zlatan more.

Imagine if we had this team now instead:

Cristiano - Zlatan - Di Maria
Modric - Veratti
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Marcelo - Ramos - Varane - Carvajal
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Post by sportsczy Fri Feb 19, 2016 4:44 pm

Talking to some friends of mine... Benz unlikely to go because there's nobody better that we can buy. Bayern won't sell Lewa. For CR to go, someone would have to offer 200 mil lol. So he's likely to stay too.

Basically BBC is unlikely to change.

Midfield is another story. Only Modric and Kovacic are safe. Everyone else is on the block. I'd expect major changes here.

Unless Pepe wants to leave, the back 4 will remain intact too.

De Gea is going to be pursued hard. So there's that too.
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Post by Claudio84 Fri Feb 19, 2016 6:14 pm

What about Aubameyang i don't think he's better than Benz but it's a good alternative, also can play as a winger IIRC

I think we should sell Cristiano his time with Madrid is up, he's the top scorer of all time, he could win the same amount of money maybe even more with Psg

@Guest07 I don't think Ibra and Ronaldo could coexist in the same club too much ego, also Ibra is declining we shouldn't think about him as a possibility

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Post by futbol_bill Fri Feb 19, 2016 10:46 pm

guest7 wrote:You mean Messi? We kinda sold the closest player you can get to him - Angel Di Maria.

rofl
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Post by halamadrid2 Sat Feb 20, 2016 7:41 am

Agreed Messi is the closest player to ADM Proud
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Post by Doc Sat Feb 20, 2016 10:27 am

Wait, this blasted club really gonna still pursue De Gea?
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Post by Thimmy Sat Feb 20, 2016 2:06 pm

Doc wrote:Wait, this blasted club really gonna still pursue De Gea?


De Gea is the closest player to Messi? hmm

You know how the Galacticos policy works. Flo may end up pursuing De Gea again, if there's no other star player on the market that's available and/or needed.
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Post by halamadrid2 Sat Feb 20, 2016 2:25 pm

Navas is loved by the players. I remember after the window had closed Marcelo was asked what goal he thought was best (cant remember what game) and he said he thought the Navas save was the best. And around that time many of the players went on twitter and spoke abou5 hiw happy they were that Navas would be staying. If Perez wants to get rid of him the only way people would accept it is if he has played bad which he hasnt not even once
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Post by Valkyrja Sat Feb 20, 2016 2:53 pm

I also love navas. the guy is goddamn great goalkeeper but also puts heart. you could see it in the way he celebrates. playing for madrid is like touching the sky for him, and i can't say that about most of our players.
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Post by BAYERN_MUNICH Sun Feb 21, 2016 10:10 am

What players do you guys think will be bought in the summer? I think Pérez is pretty pissed that Barca has MSN as attacking Trio so he will probably splash some cash on most wanted players on the market.

Pogba,Veratti,Aguero,Lewandowski,Gündogan,Reus,Mahrez come my mind as obvious targets. But the richer clubs like Bayern, PSG or City probably wont sell unless the fee would be crazy.

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Post by titosantill Sun Feb 21, 2016 12:21 pm

he is pissed about the rivals attacking front three, and frankly so am i. its still too early to know. there are rumors floating everywhere, but if the season ends like most fear it will, yes, florentino will probably splash cash. if by some miracle, a huge miracle, we can salvage something this season, he'll still probably splash, with the only difference being, zidane may have a huge say-so in how moneys are spent ('may' very few managers have had any say-so with flo)

another aspect to consider; utd, chelsea, city, psg (if they don't perform in ucl), bayern, and even barcelona- will all most likely hit the market, especially the first three clubs i mentioned, who will have new managers. with that set to take place, florentino is likely to make moves as well; and chances are two or more clubs could make bids on certain players. so that too will affect how flo chooses to move as well as the ban

i don't think anyone a clear idea on the summer, let's finish the season first; too many scenarios to take into account at this stage
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Post by Valkyrja Sun Feb 21, 2016 12:50 pm

United and Chelsea aren't threats for us in the next market. They don't play UCL
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Post by futbol_bill Sun Feb 21, 2016 12:56 pm

Val, point was they will be bidding for likely same players. Even though they are not in CL next year, they are still big money teams, in need of players.
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Post by titosantill Sun Feb 21, 2016 1:17 pm

@val, ucl is an attractive offer, yes, but having many clubs look to rebuild at the same time affects everyone. even without utd and chelsea, city now with a new manager are still going to have a significant impact on the market. even if utd and chelsea can't vie with us because of the ucl edge, they have money, which regardless of position can sway players. but more importantly, a bidding contest could also see prices hiked further than they need to be...should be interesting. last summer's window was relatively quiet for a lot of top clubs
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Post by maxyz Sun Feb 21, 2016 6:11 pm

We need an overhaul of the squad. We have Ronaldo and Benzema for 7 years as our forwards and in those 7 years we won 1 La Liga title. Most of the people were complaining that Florentino is making too many transfers,we should build the team chemistry etc. Well guess what, last summer he didn't make many transfers,and not a single one of them was for the starting XI. Yet we're so goddamn awful this season and pretty much already lost 2 out of the 3 titles.
I think our problems are way too deep and we should do a huge summer overhaul if our ban is lifted for this summer. Players like Aubameyang, Dybala,Krychowiak,Laporte,Jones should be looked at. It's plainly obvious that BBC can't compete with MSN. They never could and they never will. Messi is better than Ronaldo,Neymar is better than Bale and Suarez is better than Benzema. I think it's obvious that you can't compose a trident as good as theirs. Even if we were to buy Lewandowski or anybody nothing would change. We should give up that idea and play to our strenghts. Our current strenght is the depth of our middlefield and how good our fullbacks are.
I feel like our players don't give their all and don't appreciate being at RM. It's just the feeling I get from players like James,Ronaldo and Ramos.
We're too slow so we can't play counter-attacks like we used to and we're not creative enoughn to play through the middle so we just mindlessly cross over and over again.
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Post by titosantill Sun Feb 21, 2016 6:17 pm

i don't think the fullbacks are that good, to be honest. but they're manageable and with a proper set up, their weaknesses can be masked. but with this "play central midfielders and no ball winners", they'll get tested every time
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Post by Valkyrja Sun Feb 21, 2016 7:02 pm

We don't need a CB this summer. Varane, Ramos and Pepe are good and Vallejo is coming back from loan

We need a winger(left or right, depends on Bale), a defensive midfielder and a striker

Keylor
Carvajal Varane Ramos Marcelo
DM Modric
Bale James LW
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