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Re: Rayo Vallecano vs Real Madrid

Post by sportsczy on Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:37 pm

@Doc wrote:So I saw only from the 65th minute, what had happen before?

CBs were left all alone.

First goal...  Danilo got raped and Pepe moved over to cover.  Varane covered Pepe's man.  Marcelo or midfielder forgot to cover the far man and he was all alone to score.

Second goal...  corner.  Varane and his man fought to a draw.  Ball dropped in the box.  Danilo didn't stay on his man and he pounced on the open ball for a goal 5 meter away.

Literally a defensive horror show from the fullbacks and midfielders.

Benz had a knee-to-knee shock around the 15th min.  Tried to run it off for a while and finally had to leave as his knee was locking up.  Same knee as previously injured.

Marcelo, Danilo and Kovacic were especially horrible.  Isco was very bad and then came on in the 2nd half.  Kroos, Varane and Pepe were OK.  Jese was ineffective.  Bale and Vasquez were very good.  Modric couldn't hit the broad side of a barn with his passing when he came on Laughing

ALL THAT SAID... tremendous heart shown by the team even if they weren't playing well and Zidane was fearless with his tactical adjustments.

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Post by halamadrid2 on Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:40 pm

Basically what sport said. I dont think Marcelo was THAT bad though. He did defend okish. It wasnt like Danilo. That said they got NO help from the midfielders. Kroos and Isco were lazy. Kova was too rash and immature. It was just a defensive horrorshow

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Re: Rayo Vallecano vs Real Madrid

Post by chad4401 on Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:41 pm

@Valkyrja wrote:Rather have Lucas Vasquez against City than DMzema. Can't stand that guy's lax attitude anymore. Lucas at least puts a fight in there.


complains about lax attitude then hypes isco and james everyday Laughing, shut up your a poser

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Re: Rayo Vallecano vs Real Madrid

Post by Valkyrja on Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:41 pm

Isco ran his socks off in the 2nd half

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Post by titosantill on Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:42 pm

@perucho, easy there. i've noticed people slowly exonerating rafa for some of his wrong-doings. i don't think anyone criticized rafa for signing lucas. in fact, besides the de gea debacle, not many people had much to say about our lack of transfer activity. most, for whatever reason had confidence in the starters and just wanted depth

rafa was criticized for his poor tactics and an inability to have a standard/preferred 11. even the lucas wasn't getting bulky minutes under rafa. he was too busy with playing bale in attacking midfield. imo the negatives under rafa outweighed the positives (if at all there were any)

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Re: Rayo Vallecano vs Real Madrid

Post by chad4401 on Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:42 pm

rofl shut up

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Re: Rayo Vallecano vs Real Madrid

Post by Doc on Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:46 pm

We actually put in a defensive horror show. I mean, we are capable of it but I didn't think it would happen today but I saw the starting line up and asked myself what can Isco, Kroos and Kovacic do in terms of marking, tackling and covering. Turns out, not much.

Anyway, Lucas and Bale were really good and showed real determination and skill to pull this off. Lovely headers by Bale hmm and Lucas as well. Um, Casemiro has become a legit important player for this stretch. We look absolutely rotten without a holding mid to sure stuff up.

Pepe is cancer.


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Re: Rayo Vallecano vs Real Madrid

Post by halamadrid2 on Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:48 pm

Typo for Danilo surely hmm

Also Bale scored the header not Varane Proud

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Re: Rayo Vallecano vs Real Madrid

Post by Doc on Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:50 pm

@halamadrid2 wrote:Typo for Danilo surely hmm

Also Bale scored the header not Varane Proud

Proud Forgive me, not fully awake when I saw the highlights. Yes, it was a typo, meant to write Danilo and Pepe are cancer.

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Post by titosantill on Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:51 pm

thank you for bringing up marcelo sportsczy. its reasons like that why i feel fans and pundits get too caught up in the moment/present more than those fans who are criticized for nostalgic views.

marcelo was actually compared to the great roberto carlos on this forum. carlos' worst seasons in his career (Excluding fenerbache ,corinthians and that russian club, cos i never watched him in those places), were probably his last two seasons at madrid; and even then comparing marcelo to 05-07 carlos is complete blasphemy. carlos could whip in a reasonable cross, was consistent on free kicks in that period, and could still put in reasonable shifts on defense (when he wasn't adjusting his socks or absent minded with respect to makaay)

marcelo is nowhere near him, he's got good tricks, but the final ball is lacking. someone said in mid-week, he'll do 90 percent of the work then put in a shit final ball. and i'm not even bringing up defense.

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Re: Rayo Vallecano vs Real Madrid

Post by chad4401 on Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:54 pm

been saying marcelo gets away with things, that danilo gets destroyed for every game but dribbling>

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Re: Rayo Vallecano vs Real Madrid

Post by Doc on Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:55 pm

Also, how bad is this new injury from Benzema who is obviously made of some sort of Styrofoam.

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Post by Adit on Sat Apr 23, 2016 9:59 pm

Need a new CF for sure next season. Benzema can't be trusted.

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Re: Rayo Vallecano vs Real Madrid

Post by chad4401 on Sat Apr 23, 2016 10:03 pm

wow so many posters celebrating benzema injuries, if only you guys talked about him half as much when he scores big goals Laughing.

madrid fans logic Proud.

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Re: Rayo Vallecano vs Real Madrid

Post by Freeza on Sat Apr 23, 2016 10:05 pm

@chad4401 wrote:wow so many posters celebrating benzema injuries, if only you guys talked about him half as much when he scores big goals Laughing.

madrid fans logic Proud.


Chad admitting he's not one of us. Unless his logic is just as shit hmm

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Re: Rayo Vallecano vs Real Madrid

Post by sportsczy on Sat Apr 23, 2016 10:05 pm

@Doc wrote:Also, how bad is this new injury from Benzema who is obviously made of some sort of Styrofoam.

Not new. Same injury. He has a strained ACL. It takes 6-8 weeks of rest to heal. So it's just one of those things he will carry all season. If it gets tweaked, it inflames and needs to be iced. Then you can't play until swelling is down and you have good enough stability. Just how it is.

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Re: Rayo Vallecano vs Real Madrid

Post by Doc on Sat Apr 23, 2016 10:07 pm

So he can afford to start against City because we really need him. Dearly.

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Re: Rayo Vallecano vs Real Madrid

Post by Freeza on Sat Apr 23, 2016 10:09 pm

@Doc wrote:So he can afford to start against City because we really need him. Dearly.


If he looks as injured as he did today, I'd rather not risk it tbh. Give Isco or James the spot, even Jesé.

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Re: Rayo Vallecano vs Real Madrid

Post by sportsczy on Sat Apr 23, 2016 10:09 pm

@Doc wrote:So he can afford to start against City because we really need him. Dearly.

Depends if swelling is down by then. It's going to be close. You can't bend your knee or cut much until it does so there's not much you can do about it. Just need to ice, ice... and then ice some more.

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Post by halamadrid2 on Sat Apr 23, 2016 10:11 pm

Apparently he was subbed as a precaution. We will see tomorrow i suppose

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Re: Rayo Vallecano vs Real Madrid

Post by sportsczy on Sat Apr 23, 2016 10:12 pm

@halamadrid2 wrote:Apparently he was subbed as a precaution. We will see tomorrow i suppose
Yeah i hope so. It's one of those things where you want to be safe rather than sorry because if it goes, he's done for the season.

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Re: Rayo Vallecano vs Real Madrid

Post by Doc on Sat Apr 23, 2016 10:16 pm

Jeez, why can't I just have a calm, successful season?! Anyway, if Cristiano is back, then it won't be that much of an issue. If both Benzema and Ronaldo are unavailable, we won't have a CF unless we start The Mayonnaise.

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Re: Rayo Vallecano vs Real Madrid

Post by sportsczy on Sat Apr 23, 2016 10:21 pm

Jese really needs to figure out what kind of player he wants to be...  right now, he's neither a winger nor a CF.  He has no tactical awareness whatsoever.

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Post by FennecFox7 on Sat Apr 23, 2016 10:26 pm

Hate to take chads side right now but valk lay the hell off benz, if a player gets injured and still plays, that's more heart then some joker who has no idea how to play defense (isco)

Sports, he shoud be a CF. He has the speed, strength to play it imo. he looks way bigger this season

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Re: Rayo Vallecano vs Real Madrid

Post by Adit on Sat Apr 23, 2016 10:40 pm

Games like these shows you how many match winners are there in your side. We have two of them. Ronaldo and Bale.

Bale would have been an Olympic athlete if he wasn't a footballer.

First goal. Danillo beaten and 4 vs 3. We should not have allowed 4 vs 4 to begin with. The Anchor was in no man's land.

Second goal. Varane mistake. Is that how you clear a corner? By heading straight into the other guys head. He really needs to stop having these minute mistakes which leads to goals.

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Re: Rayo Vallecano vs Real Madrid

Post by LeSwagg James on Sat Apr 23, 2016 10:43 pm

@Valkyrja wrote:Rather have Lucas Vasquez against City than DMzema. Can't stand that guy's lax attitude anymore. Lucas at least puts a fight in there.


Are you one of those 'butthurt that he beat out Higuain' guys? hmm

If you are, just let it go bro Proud

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