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Re: Griezmann for Ballon d'Or ?

Post by sportsczy on Thu Jul 07, 2016 10:35 pm

Griezmann is the ONLY scorer on both France and Atleti... please don't tell me Torres and Giroud put fear in any team's heart.

Ronaldo has Bale, Benzema, Modric, Kroos, etc.


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Re: Griezmann for Ballon d'Or ?

Post by Bankz on Thu Jul 07, 2016 10:36 pm

True. I can already forsee messi and ronaldo eating up those votes as per usual. Infact all they need to do is probably have bout 5 decent games between August - November and the award is in the bag. Poor griezemen.

Football is such a funny sport, its all a thing of the moment. Though if france wins it (which they will) griezeman definitely has the European player award in the bag
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Post by RealGunner on Thu Jul 07, 2016 10:38 pm

Ronaldo, Messi, Suarez will be top 3. Last 2 spots will be up in the air.

Absolutely no chance Griezmann gets in the top 3. Even if France wins the euros. Top 5 maybe. Top 10 definitely but not top 3.

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Post by Bankz on Thu Jul 07, 2016 10:39 pm

Btw, isn't griezeman the player mehdrid should be chasing? *But but scrugba*
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Post by halamadrid2 on Thu Jul 07, 2016 10:39 pm

Atleti always play to their forwards strengths. And lol at putting them down when we havent been able to beat them in the league since Mou days

Griezmann is a great player, probably a shout for player of the tournament, but balon d'or Laughing please no. He is not that good
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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Thu Jul 07, 2016 10:48 pm

He'd have a legitimate case if Atletico won the CL.

Hell he does anyway but I think we all know you have to perform well above "a legitimate case" to be voted above Messi and Ronaldo.

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Post by RealGunner on Thu Jul 07, 2016 10:50 pm

Xavi was far far more influential during 08-10 after winning the euros and the WC and didn't win the award lol. Griezmann has no chance.
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Post by Bankz on Thu Jul 07, 2016 10:53 pm

Heck an entirely new contender might even go on a tear from august to november and sneak into third place. Such is the nature of the football world.
That being said, its probably
1. We know
2. We know
3. Whoever


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Post by Hapless_Hans on Thu Jul 07, 2016 10:54 pm

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Hell he does anyway but I think we all know you have to perform well above "a legitimate case" to be voted above Messi and Ronaldo.


You don't "have to" anything to be voted above Messi and Ronaldo.
It doesn't matter what "you" do, noone has been voted above Messi and Ronaldo for almost 10 years and noone will anytime soon.
No need to remind anyone how much of a joke this award is.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Thu Jul 07, 2016 10:54 pm

That's my point.....

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Post by RealGunner on Thu Jul 07, 2016 10:55 pm

Suarez should be ahead of Messi this year for example.

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Post by Don't call me James on Thu Jul 07, 2016 10:58 pm

@Don't call me James wrote:Best player in the world. Should win it imo.

If the final 2 is not between him and Suarez, football is dead.


Truer words have never been spoken.

Easily top 2 players in the world this year have been Suarez and Grizzy. Grizzy has to win Balon D'Or now that he not only carried Atleti on his back to the CL final and with the chance at the La Liga title in the last match, but also carried France to the final.

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Post by zigra on Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:00 pm

Calma. If Ronaldo wins Portugal the first ever major trophy on sunday how can you say he doesn't deserve a top 2 finish?
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Post by Hapless_Hans on Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:00 pm

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:That's my point.....


Yes. And mine.

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Post by The Demon of Carthage on Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:08 pm

Definitely not a Ballon d'Or contender. People are so desperate for a change of scenery that the second a player delivers a good performance they start hyping him up for the BdO.

It's like "please, somebody, anybody, just not these two".

Ronaldo has had his worst season at Real Madrid since he joined us and yet he has similar numbers to the best season Suarez has ever had in his career.

The thing is, Ronaldo and Messi have set the bar too damn high for everybody else, but above all, for themselves as well. People now take it for granted for Ronaldo to smash 50+ goals a season. And if Messi doesn't dance around 4 players before assisting Suarez, they bash him for having a "bad game".

You'll know how these two were in a league of their own when they retire leaving the BdO for players much, much inferior.


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Re: Griezmann for Ballon d'Or ?

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:10 pm

Numbers are irrelevant, it should be who was most important to team success.

At least that's what it used to be until Messi came along, now it's just a who scored and whose famous trophy.


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Post by futbol on Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:11 pm

Top 3 should be Suarez, Griezmann, Kommander obviously.

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Re: Griezmann for Ballon d'Or ?

Post by Doc on Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:19 pm

Even by team success, Griezmann still lacks that. Technically, Atletico was not successful, Madrid and Barcelona were with Messi, Suarez and Ronaldo contributing meaningfully towards that. And France hasn't won anything as yet so one can't be putting the cart before the horse.

I don't mind the Frenchman winning but he still is lacking in both numbers and team success category.


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Post by sportsczy on Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:21 pm

Well if France win the Euro...  Griezmann has already scored the second most goals in the tournament EVER behind only the 9 of Platini (Griezmann has 6 so far).  So he would have won the Euro in dominant fashion.

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Post by The Demon of Carthage on Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:22 pm

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Numbers are irrelevant, it should be who was most important to team success.

At least that's what it used to be until Messi came along, now it's just a who scored and whose famous trophy.


Messi was instrumental in Barçelona winning the league and argentina reaching the final of CA.

Ronaldo was instrumental in Real Madrid winning the CL and in a not-so-obvious way Portugal reaching the final of the euro.

I'm not saying they deserve the Ballon d'Or this year btw; I'm just saying that if another player won as much as they have this season and had the same impact both on national team and club level, everybody would be hyping them as a BdO contender.

Messi and Ronaldo would have to freeze the sun to convince people of their merit to be on the podium.

and I agree with you, numbers are misleading.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:23 pm

Which is why I said if they won the CL, the fact that he didn't is a big blot on the resume.

Still deserves it over stat padding Barca duo though, although I fully realise he won't before the lol Messi and Ronaldo posts come piling in.

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Post by Doc on Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:30 pm

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Still deserves it over stat padding Barca duo though, although I fully realise he won't before the lol Messi and Ronaldo posts come piling in.

Why though? It was an historic double (not Spanish team has ever done the double twice in a row). Don't see why it shouldn't be deserved.

That being said, Antoinne scores a hattrick in the final and equaling Platini's record in one go, shit, give that man the Bdo one time. The award was created by a French magazine so it shouldn't be hard to deliver it to him then and there.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:47 pm

Well if Bayern can win the treble and no rep wins it but the winner wins nothing but score lots you can probably see my point of view.

Winning league and cup has never really been considered that high before and only reason it is because it's Barca imo. Should Griezmann score and win the final that would be more impressive imo.

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Post by futbol on Thu Jul 07, 2016 11:53 pm

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Well if Bayern can win the treble and no rep wins it but the winner wins nothing but score lots you can probably see my point of view.

Winning league and cup has never really been considered that high before and only reason it is because it's Barca imo. Should Griezmann score and win the final that would be more impressive imo.


Is this a joke? Last time Real Madrid won the domestic double was almost 30 years ago. Laughing

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:04 am

Not really when Bayern does it (or any other team for that matter)  it never gets brought up as some sort of amazing achievement and the main reason Madrid haven't done it is because how often they play a weakened team in the cup.

I can guarantee if any other team with a star player won the league and cup it wouldn't be hyped this much.

CL finalist and winning the Euros is more impressive or winning the CL and Euros in Ronaldo's case.

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Post by The Demon of Carthage on Fri Jul 08, 2016 12:10 am

Which would be more impressive to you mole, winning the euro while also being a CL finalist, or winning the CL while being a euro finalist?

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