Change my view: England, N.Ireland, Wales & Scotland should merge into a UK team

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Re: Change my view: England, N.Ireland, Wales & Scotland should merge into a UK team

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:57 pm

Yes we are lol.

Nobody in Scotland or Wales think they are in the same country lol.

You are being just as ignorant as Unique with that post tbh.

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Re: Change my view: England, N.Ireland, Wales & Scotland should merge into a UK team

Post by Nishankly on Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:57 pm

@Unique wrote:Do you think India and Pakistan should merge into one team.


That's like saying France and England should be one country lmao
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Re: Change my view: England, N.Ireland, Wales & Scotland should merge into a UK team

Post by rincon on Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:58 pm

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Yes we are lol.

Nobody in Scotland or Wales think they are in the same country lol.

You are being just as ignorant as Unique with that post tbh.


Like this matters Laughing
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Re: Change my view: England, N.Ireland, Wales & Scotland should merge into a UK team

Post by Nishankly on Thu Jul 12, 2018 2:59 pm

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Yes we are lol.

Nobody in Scotland or Wales think they are in the same country lol.

You are being just as ignorant as Unique with that post tbh.


You aren't seperate nation though so it doesn't count.

You are literally getting a free pass here and those regions have no right forming international football teams right now. It should be one country under GB.
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Re: Change my view: England, N.Ireland, Wales & Scotland should merge into a UK team

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:01 pm

Nope.

Like saying Portugal and Spain should be under the same country.

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Re: Change my view: England, N.Ireland, Wales & Scotland should merge into a UK team

Post by Nishankly on Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:02 pm

No, I understand it doesn't feel right for you from the inside but it's how it is and it should change.

It won't change so you can ignore our thoughts.
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Re: Change my view: England, N.Ireland, Wales & Scotland should merge into a UK team

Post by rincon on Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:04 pm

Its not.

Spain and Portugal are in no way the same country.

Just like England and co. are in no way separate countries. The UK is the sovereign entity. Its a single government. Under single rule. With single representation in the UN, the EU, NATO, and every other piece of international relations.

Just like the autonomous communities in Spain, and the states in every federal government in America.
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Re: Change my view: England, N.Ireland, Wales & Scotland should merge into a UK team

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:04 pm

As i should tbh :coffee:

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Re: Change my view: England, N.Ireland, Wales & Scotland should merge into a UK team

Post by Jay29 on Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:08 pm

I'm curious as to why they shouldn't be separate. Like, what issue is there that there's no UK football team?

The English and Scottish FA's pre-date FIFA by decades. England and Scotland were playing international games in the 1870s well before international football became an organised thing.

Maybe if there was a UK FA or something, but that's never been the case. Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland have their own FAs and run their own football programmes.
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Re: Change my view: England, N.Ireland, Wales & Scotland should merge into a UK team

Post by Kaladin on Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:09 pm

If UK merged the NT would be insane, some great players sprinkled around those nations

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Re: Change my view: England, N.Ireland, Wales & Scotland should merge into a UK team

Post by Unique on Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:11 pm

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Yes we are lol.

Nobody in Scotland or Wales think they are in the same country lol.

You are being just as ignorant as Unique with that post tbh.
I wasn’t being ignorant I was being sarcastic.

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Re: Change my view: England, N.Ireland, Wales & Scotland should merge into a UK team

Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:12 pm

@rincon wrote:
Just like England and co. are in no way separate countries.

Except they are lmao. Always rich for someone who never stepped foot inside any of these countries for more than 5 minutes is telling someone who is born and raised there how it is.

The fact they have the same leader is utterly irrelevant, England once ruled 23% of the world so i suppose they weren't seperate countries then either because they were ruled under the same leader.

Because the likes of Wales and Scotland haven't been able to secure their independence like America once did is complete irrelevant to this stupid and quite frankly ignorant discussion.


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Re: Change my view: England, N.Ireland, Wales & Scotland should merge into a UK team

Post by Unique on Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:14 pm

People thinking we are the United States of Britain Laughing

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Re: Change my view: England, N.Ireland, Wales & Scotland should merge into a UK team

Post by rincon on Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:17 pm

Lets see.

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:

Except they are lmao. Always rich for someone who never stepped foot inside any of these countries for more than 5 minutes is telling someone who is born and raised there how it is.


Fun fact #1: been to england plenty of times.
Fun fact #2: this doesn't actually matter.

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
The fact they have the same leader is utterly irrelevant, England once ruled 23% of the world so i suppose they weren't seperate countries then either because they were ruled under the same leader.

Yes. Obviously when England owned these places they weren't separate countries. That was the whole thing about achieving independence.


@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
Because the likes of Wales and Scotland haven't been able to secure their independence like America once did is complete irrelevant to this stupid and quite frankly ignorant discussion.
No. It is exactly how it works.

None of these things are relevant. It's just something that is affecting your sensitivities.
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Re: Change my view: England, N.Ireland, Wales & Scotland should merge into a UK team

Post by rincon on Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:19 pm

You'd get copy paste responses from any person in any region in any federal government around the world that feels like they should be independent. Doesn't make it so though. Its why there are movements like the Catalan and the Scottish independence ones. Because they are not independent.
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Re: Change my view: England, N.Ireland, Wales & Scotland should merge into a UK team

Post by Freeza on Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:20 pm

I don’t hear anobody say Denmark should merge with Faroe Islands and Greenland hmm


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Re: Change my view: England, N.Ireland, Wales & Scotland should merge into a UK team

Post by BusterLfc on Thu Jul 12, 2018 3:57 pm

Why does UK play like a country in the olympics? hmm
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Re: Change my view: England, N.Ireland, Wales & Scotland should merge into a UK team

Post by Nishankly on Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:03 pm

@Freeza wrote:I don’t hear anobody say Denmark should merge with Faroe Islands and Greenland hmm



That's valid as well. You can hear that from me as well. I thought Faroe Islands was a seperate country. Greenland never played in Euro qualification so it fit the bill of one nation.
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Re: Change my view: England, N.Ireland, Wales & Scotland should merge into a UK team

Post by urbaNRoots on Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:07 pm

It‘s a legitimate claim tbh, I‘ve always wondered why it is how it is.

The only reason why it‘s not changed yet is because FIFA can‘t be bothered to deal with the outrage of Scottish, Welsh, Northern Irish people.
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Re: Change my view: England, N.Ireland, Wales & Scotland should merge into a UK team

Post by Robespierre on Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:10 pm

@Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:Yes we are lol.

Nobody in Scotland or Wales think they are in the same country lol.

You are being just as ignorant as Unique with that post tbh.


I remember United Kindgom NT for Olympyque games ans players looked like if they hated each other lol

But anyway it is normal , we talk about different cultures.
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Re: Change my view: England, N.Ireland, Wales & Scotland should merge into a UK team

Post by Jay29 on Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:19 pm

The reason there was never a UK team was as I said earlier: the English, Scottish and Welsh FAs pre-dated FIFA.

By the time FIFA were established, the FAs were deemed too powerful and established to merge into a single body. Most countries at the time agreed and let them stay as separate teams. Baring in mind that the UK's FAs were vastly more professional and organised at that point in time.

FIFA aren't going to change this now that over 100 years has passed. It's not about not pissing off certain nations. England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland are well-established football teams by now and there's literally no reason they can't continue to exist. As far as I see, none of the other UEFA nations have complained about the UK taking up qualification spots or having more power.

This isn't exclusive to football. Scotland has a rugby team and a cricket team. Wales has their own rugby team.

As far as sports are concerned, there is no unifying "UK identity".
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Re: Change my view: England, N.Ireland, Wales & Scotland should merge into a UK team

Post by Robespierre on Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:26 pm

Watched just today ( ffs I don't find it) Scottish people to celebrate insanely after Croatia goal

I can't wait for these brave guys to celebrate if Snodgrass scores for UK and to curse Caledonian spirits if Kane scores for same team
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Re: Change my view: England, N.Ireland, Wales & Scotland should merge into a UK team

Post by Nishankly on Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:32 pm

Don't see how identity comes into the picture, every decently big country has 50 odd cultures or languages present inside of them, they have seperate teams who compete internally and the NT is mixed to represent the country's best. Anyways meh.
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Re: Change my view: England, N.Ireland, Wales & Scotland should merge into a UK team

Post by Myesyats on Thu Jul 12, 2018 4:57 pm

@Nishankly wrote:
@Unique wrote:Do you think India and Pakistan should merge into one team.


That's like saying France and England should be one country lmao

It's not at all like that though, right? Weren't Pakistan and India one country at some point?
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Re: Change my view: England, N.Ireland, Wales & Scotland should merge into a UK team

Post by Freeza on Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:11 pm

@Nishankly wrote:
@Freeza wrote:I don’t hear anobody say Denmark should merge with Faroe Islands and Greenland hmm



That's valid as well. You can hear that from me as well. I thought Faroe Islands was a seperate country. Greenland never played in Euro qualification so it fit the bill of one nation.


Faroe Islands probably should be part of our national team. I think the point of it being seperate is to promote their culture. No one from there would be on the national teams basically, if they didn't have their own. Todi Jónsson is probably the only player ever who's had a chance of playing for us.

And I'd also say the culture is much different than a lot of other nations. The language is probably closer to Icelandic. I don't understand shit of what my friends from there say Laughing

One of my friends was on their youth national team, and we were the same level and I'm not very good.

Basically, if they didn't have their own, they'd never be able to promote their own culture to the world. And I doubt they feel Danish. It's comparable to the UK, but at least they under a name "United Kingdom" while our name is "Kingdom of Denmark"

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Re: Change my view: England, N.Ireland, Wales & Scotland should merge into a UK team

Post by Nishankly on Thu Jul 12, 2018 5:21 pm

@Myesyats wrote:
@Nishankly wrote:
@Unique wrote:Do you think India and Pakistan should merge into one team.


That's like saying France and England should be one country lmao


It's not at all like that though, right? Weren't Pakistan and India one country at some point?


It is, we became different countries 70 years ago. We don't have the same culture. We might occasionally look the same and get pooled in the same boat but we are not.

Its absolutely irrelevant here. We both have different FIFA teams as well because we are officially different countries if we talk about this on topic since it's been bought up.
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