Re: The Official Summer Transfer Rumours Thread

[Sri]

Also, the likes of Adebayor, Song, Fabregas, Van Persie, Diaby, .. were all picked from relative obscurity and polished into diamonds at Arsenal.

We aren't seeing that any more. That is the issue I referred to in my previous post - grooming young players.

These guys had experienced heads around to learn from. That hasn't been the case with Theo/Ramsey/Ox/Jack/Gibbs - they had years of being surrounded by mediocrity and fans expecting them to transform into greatness. Their current plight is a consequence of missing that peer learning and lack of shielding.

[Jay29]

Don't know how Giroud can be considered an example of not being able to spot talent when he's scored 84 goals in four seasons at the club. I recall Bayern were interested in him when we signed him.

Also you mention the German market - Arsenal wanted Reus before he went to BVB, Draxler back in 2014 and were consistently linked with Lars Bender for a good three years. That we didn't buy these players had more to do with money than not knowing they were there.

There have been players we've missed out on but for a lot of them I think it comes down to finances more than scouting.

[Sri]

At some level, we are also not the most attractive club to players in Tier 1+.

That is to say, the likes of Madrid, Barcelona, Bayern, now Juve, QSG - heck, even Chelsea, City and United. That is also correlated to money and on-field success - both KPIs where we still trail a fair bit.

[urbaNRoots]

Who cares if we don't sign elite youngsters anymore, we've clearly moved on from that period.

Wenger isn't signing estabilished players either though

[Sri]

Wenger isn't signing enough players though

fixed

[MJ]

Coquelin said (on Arsenal's snapchat fwiw) that he's been training as a centerback recently.

No idea why you guys were worried we wouldn't replace Per.

[Jay29]

According to Le Buteur (Algerian paper apparnetly?), Mahrez is close to joining.

http://www.lebuteur.com/article/detail?titre=mahrez-signera-dans-les-prochains-jours-a-arsenal&id=55648

Another Algerian source called Elheddaf also saying something similar but I haven't seen an article for that one yet.

Guardian reporting Mahrez won't sign a new contract with Leicester.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/jul/15/riyad-mahrez-leicester-city

But as always, whether he leaves or not will be dependent on Arsenal or any other club paying up. Don't think Leicester would block the move if they get a good fee.

Leicester could be signing Polish winger Kaputska, if that means anything.

[Sri]

I heard he was close to a switch to Chelsea from some friends.. Haven't really been keeping a tab tbh..

While I would welcome the signing, I would still hope for an actual forward and a CB..

[Hapless_Hans]

Kaputska was very good in Poland's first Euros game, only a sub in later ones I believe

[MJ]

@GFFN 12m12 minutes ago
Algerian football expert @MezahiMaher has widely discredited the Le Buteur Arsenal - Mahrez story, for those asking about its reliability.

Make of this what you will.

[RealGunner]

As it turns out Le Buteur ran a story claiming Neymar's dad is Algerian and that Algeria was going to call up Neymar in 2010


Doesn't strike as a reputable paper

[Jay29]

Should probably forget about it, then.

[Great Leader Sprucenuce]

As it turns out  Le Giggity ran a story claiming Neymar's dad is Algerian and that Algeria was going to call up Neymar in 2010


Doesn't strike as a reputable paper

[RealGunner]

"Arsenal enquired about Mustafi, were quoted €25m - half his release clause - but have been silent ever since"


sounds like us

[Lex]

If we somehow land Mahrez, would you guys consider this a successful transfer window? (so far)

[RealGunner]

Would be a 7/10 window. A CB and 8/10


At this moment it seems highly unlikely we will get a striker sadly

[Lex]

Don't know how Giroud can be considered an example of not being able to spot talent when he's scored 84 goals in four seasons at the club. I recall Bayern were interested in him when we signed him

Bingo

I remember quite a few big clubs were after Giroud before we signed him.

[MJ]

Arsenal will submit an improved offer of £33.7m for Alexandre Lacazette and will not return to the negotiating table if it is rejected according to Greg Stobart

Don't know how Giroud can be considered an example of not being able to spot talent when he's scored 84 goals in four seasons at the club. I recall Bayern were interested in him when we signed him

Bingo

I remember quite a few big clubs were after Giroud before we signed him.

And we've seen big clubs interested in him since. Hans was just exaggerating and lumping players together hoping no one would notice.

[Jay29]

Anyway, if we somehow landed Mahrez, I still wouldn't call this a successful window. It'd only be half of the problem positions sorted, with the spine of the team still not strengthend enough.

[Hapless_Hans]

Arsenal will submit an improved offer of £33.7m for Alexandre Lacazette and will not return to the negotiating table if it is rejected according to Greg Stobart

Don't know how Giroud can be considered an example of not being able to spot talent when he's scored 84 goals in four seasons at the club. I recall Bayern were interested in him when we signed him

Bingo

I remember quite a few big clubs were after Giroud before we signed him.

And we've seen big clubs interested in him since. Hans was just exaggerating and lumping players together hoping no one would notice.

My point was, the French talent pool is among the very best in the world, and yet Wenger has not managed to get neither the top players nor the top youngsters out of that talent pool in let's say the last 5 years, despite siphoning from the Franch talent pool supposedly being Wenger's special skill.

So that#s the skill he lost, and whether you signed Debuchy from Newcaslte or whether Giroud was sought after in 2010 doesn't matter.

[urbaNRoots]

Jeff has been promoted to the first team.

Bye bye Mahrez.

[Sri]

Hans selectively ignoring points from my earlier posts to reinforce his point there.

[Lex]

[RealGunner]

Adelaide Jeff

[RealGunner]

SKY Germany reporting in last hour that Arsenal officially in negotiations with Valencia for Mustafi. No fee agreed yet

http://s2.glbimg.com/5PHg14Beusc-O75p8PzVLZ4vtf4=/695x0/s.glbimg.com/po/tt2/f/original/2015/10/19/shkodran-mustafi.jpg


Pretty underwhelming tbh

[Jay29]

Guess we'll hear about the result of that in about a month.

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