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Re: The Official Summer Transfer Rumours Thread

Post by Sri on Thu Aug 11, 2016 12:17 pm

@Hapless_Hans wrote:but is there anything about whether you even are trying to sign Bony ? scratch


I think GL is the source of that rumor. Is Bony surely transfer listed? If yes, then I hope we at least try.

I don't think City are as petty as Chelsea were with Demba Ba that past summer.

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Re: The Official Summer Transfer Rumours Thread

Post by MJ on Thu Aug 11, 2016 12:19 pm

@Hapless_Hans wrote:but is there anything about whether you even are trying to sign Bony ? scratch


Some crap in the English press that's probably spawned because we need a striker and they're looking to sell one. That 2+2 = 5 logic.

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I'd like to think that targeting him over a striker means we're looking to spread the goals around the squad. That isn't to say it's the most prudent way of dealing with the fact that we have a dearth of forwards at our disposal. But given that he scored 17 goals last season and won PotY (albeit, different circumstances), we'd still be signing someone who would prove to be a significant boost to our offensive output.

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Good. I suspect we've had an understanding with the player for a while now. Valencia's recent activity (not playing him in friendlies) suggests it's very advanced and they expect to part ways with him soon.

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Re: The Official Summer Transfer Rumours Thread

Post by Sri on Thu Aug 11, 2016 12:21 pm

I wonder if they'd request us to loan them Chambers or Holding or Bielik.
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Re: The Official Summer Transfer Rumours Thread

Post by Hapless_Hans on Thu Aug 11, 2016 12:31 pm

Why would they need your youth scrubs? They are an ambitious club themselves.

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Re: The Official Summer Transfer Rumours Thread

Post by Sri on Thu Aug 11, 2016 12:42 pm

1. These aren't scrubs we're talking about, just young and insufficiently experienced players.
2. I'm not saying they need them, I am wondering if they would ask for someone to fill a gap that Mustafi would leave.
3. There is nothing remotely shocking about loaning a player.
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Re: The Official Summer Transfer Rumours Thread

Post by S on Thu Aug 11, 2016 12:54 pm

The point is Valencia will have better players and bigger youth prospects than what you're offering.

Besides why do they need English kids.

They already had a pretty bad 'English' experience already

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Re: The Official Summer Transfer Rumours Thread

Post by Sri on Thu Aug 11, 2016 1:16 pm

Again, I have no idea what they do or do not have. I don't happen to follow the club or the league.

Which is why I said 'I wonder if..'
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Post by Sri on Thu Aug 11, 2016 1:18 pm

I also don't understand how Holding and Chambers are suddenly poor youth prospects. I don't know who Valencia have, but I doubt their youth will magically be far superior. These two are among the best U-21 CBs in England. Heck, the only thing Gabriel happens to have over them is that he is a tad more experienced.
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Re: The Official Summer Transfer Rumours Thread

Post by S on Thu Aug 11, 2016 1:37 pm

Mendes will get them some of the best South American talents. They don't have to rely on Arsenal youth prospects.

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Re: The Official Summer Transfer Rumours Thread

Post by MJ on Thu Aug 11, 2016 2:08 pm

Mustafi's agent tells Kicker he did not claim that his client agreed a deal with Arsenal. He maintains there are 'discussions' but that the clubs haven't agreed a fee, nor has Mustafi agreed personal terms.

http://www.kicker.de/news/fussball/2016-17/transfermarkt.html?ddt=1

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Re: The Official Summer Transfer Rumours Thread

Post by Sri on Thu Aug 11, 2016 2:23 pm

@S wrote:Mendes will get them some of the best South American talents. They don't have to rely on Arsenal youth prospects.


I didn't say they have to rely on us. And what's the guarantee that Mendes will get *them* the best talents? Because they're the best club in Europe right?

All this is moot. Can't believe we're even having such a hypothetical discussion.
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Re: The Official Summer Transfer Rumours Thread

Post by Jay29 on Thu Aug 11, 2016 3:21 pm

I'd say it's unlikely they'd ask for Chambers/Holding/Bielik on loan because they, like every Spanish club that isn't Barca, Madrid or Atletico, are dependent on resalable assets. So while it might be a good short-term fill for their Mustafi-shaped hole, they're more likely to bring in someone cheap who they can sell two-three years down the line.

Also FWIW, Mendes has a close working relationship with Valencia's owner. A lot of Valencia's current players and recent signings are Mendes clients.
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Re: The Official Summer Transfer Rumours Thread

Post by Sri on Thu Aug 11, 2016 3:25 pm

^ Fair enough. Wasn't aware of that Mendes-owner link.
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Re: The Official Summer Transfer Rumours Thread

Post by RealGunner on Thu Aug 11, 2016 3:55 pm

Hope we can wrap up Mustafi by tomorrow. Would be a great signing

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Re: The Official Summer Transfer Rumours Thread

Post by Vlad the Impaler on Thu Aug 11, 2016 4:16 pm

RG, isn't Giovinco to Arsenal done yet? :coffee:
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Re: The Official Summer Transfer Rumours Thread

Post by RealGunner on Thu Aug 11, 2016 4:42 pm

We aren't linked with him afaik
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Re: The Official Summer Transfer Rumours Thread

Post by MJ on Thu Aug 11, 2016 5:07 pm

'Sky sources' say more of the same: Mustafi has agreed to join although nothing has been signed and no fee agreed.

http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11670/10531702/valencias-shkodran-mustafi-agrees-to-join-arsenal-but-no-fee-agreed

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Re: The Official Summer Transfer Rumours Thread

Post by MJ on Thu Aug 11, 2016 8:58 pm

The Guardian report that the agent who said Mustafi agreed to join Arsenal isn't even his actual agent. Mustafi only works with his father Laughing

Valencia want at least £25m and know Arsenal's position with injuries and a lot of cash means they can demand it.

Arsenal have a "quiet confidence" they'll sign Mustafi but not in time for Liverpool.

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/aug/11/arsenal-shkodran-mustafi-valencia-arsene-wenger?CMP=share_btn_tw

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Re: The Official Summer Transfer Rumours Thread

Post by RealGunner on Thu Aug 11, 2016 11:07 pm

Five-year deal and £75k-a-week for Mustafi. Done. Announcement on Monday if not tomorrow

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Re: The Official Summer Transfer Rumours Thread

Post by Sri on Fri Aug 12, 2016 5:52 am

sauces m8
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Re: The Official Summer Transfer Rumours Thread

Post by Jay29 on Fri Aug 12, 2016 1:16 pm

Everton apparently in for Valencia's Abdennour... which could mean they won't sell us Mustafi unless they plan on losing two first team centre backs in one go.
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Re: The Official Summer Transfer Rumours Thread

Post by MJ on Fri Aug 12, 2016 1:26 pm

@Jay29 wrote:Everton apparently in for Valencia's Abdennour... which could mean they won't sell us Mustafi unless they plan on losing two first team centre backs in one go.


We're not getting muscled out of a completely different deal because Everton come sauntering by and want one of their players. That'll be new levels of banter that I'm not willing to even contemplate.

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Re: The Official Summer Transfer Rumours Thread

Post by Jay29 on Fri Aug 12, 2016 6:54 pm

Valencia owner Peter Lim reportedly flying out to England to discuss Mustfafi and Abdennour transfers.
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Re: The Official Summer Transfer Rumours Thread

Post by Rev on Fri Aug 12, 2016 8:42 pm

Imagine the meltdown if we play Liverpool with Chambers - Holding CB duo because of Everton buying Abdennour and subsequently forcing Valencia to withdraw from the Mustafi deal Laughing

That would be the Arsenal way alright.
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Re: The Official Summer Transfer Rumours Thread

Post by EL Patron on Fri Aug 12, 2016 9:01 pm

Even if we had completed the early, he still wouldn't have been fit to play. He is only just started pre season training.

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Re: The Official Summer Transfer Rumours Thread

Post by Rev on Fri Aug 12, 2016 9:03 pm



Decided to post it here, interesting stat comparison between the two although Per is a way less agressive type of defender. The aerial duel row is suprising though.
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