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Post by rincon on Mon Jun 27, 2016 6:51 am

How did others not get insults? You really think Maradona didn't get insults? he is STILL getting insults.

Higuain gets insults, all the time, and he still plays. Football players are always getting insults from everywhere, but they also get praise, and no one gets more praise than Messi.

Why continue? because he is playing for his country. Even if that didn't matter, continue because you haven't won, because you wanna be the best. Or you know, reitre during your prime after the Copa America.

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Post by sportsczy on Mon Jun 27, 2016 6:51 am

Are you serious? Do you know how much criticism.a d insults Zidane got until he won WC98? It was blinding. He never though of quitting either and kept his mouth shut.

Did you see Ballack quit despite getting roasted at NT?

Henry... The same.

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Post by Kebab on Mon Jun 27, 2016 6:51 am

@Mr Nick09 wrote:
@Kebab wrote:Why continue playing when you get insults? others didnt get this threatement. please stop comparing
Of course others have, what kind of blind universe are you living in?
Who?
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Post by Harmonica on Mon Jun 27, 2016 6:53 am

Lmao Maradona is a cockroach who cheated World Cup, had Burruchaga and Valdano carrying him the final unlike Higuain and Palacio did for Messi, and didn't even get to Copa America final. Been living since the myth of that.


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Post by VendettaRed07 on Mon Jun 27, 2016 6:53 am

He's just taking the loss really hard. It's also a political move. Instead of being shit on for flopping for another year, people will be begging for him to return.

There's no way he is not playing for Argentina in 2018. Not a chance.

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Post by rincon on Mon Jun 27, 2016 6:55 am

@Kebab wrote:
@Mr Nick09 wrote:
@Kebab wrote:Why continue playing when you get insults? others didnt get this threatement. please stop comparing
Of course others have, what kind of blind universe are you living in?
Who?


Everyone, literally everyone.

What tournaments have you seen so we can start naming players? Ronaldo after the WC 98 final? ALL the germans, all the time until WC 2014. Higuain and Aguero at every tournament they've played at senior level. ALL of the brazil team after the 7-1 loss. Roberto Baggio after 94. All the french and italian players at WC 2010 and 2014 respectively. Basically every player talented enough to hope to win anything.


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Post by S on Mon Jun 27, 2016 6:55 am

Pogba's getting smashed by French media like every day lol

Media pressure on superstar players is a common thing. But yeah i do think they go way overboard sometimes.
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Post by Harmonica on Mon Jun 27, 2016 6:57 am

Zidane is also fake nt-player, been carried by superior teams, for him to steal all the glory at the end. Messi is really different, carries dysfunctional team to brink of titles, yet gets all the blame for his team for not winning.

Then again Messi is the Dark Knight.

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Post by Doc on Mon Jun 27, 2016 6:58 am

I wouldn't put charismatic and Riquelme in the same sentence Razz Also, all the great players have been heavily criticized before. Maybe you're not aware of these things Kebab but Messi isn't the first player to be given high expectations.

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Post by Kebab on Mon Jun 27, 2016 6:58 am

some people just check livescore and come here to comment. how he was a flop? it was his best national tournament. and today he displayed his best argentina performance in years
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Post by Perucho21 on Mon Jun 27, 2016 6:59 am

Not confirmed yet but Di Maria, Lavezzi, Biglia and Higuain are also considering retirement


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Re: Lionel Mesxit: 'The national team is over for me'

Post by rincon on Mon Jun 27, 2016 7:00 am

Great players have great expectations, if can't handle them then maybe he isn't really that great? just the best player sure, but not mentally up to it.

Where is Messi getting all the blame? everyone is saying how good he was during the tournament, everywhere its written how he was killing the Copa. Did he not miss the penalty? thats all he is getting blamed for.
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Post by zizzle on Mon Jun 27, 2016 7:02 am

A tax dodger has an issue with corruption Laughing give me a break, i just lost a ton of respect for this guy, and to think i once considered him the best player of all time...

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Post by farfan on Mon Jun 27, 2016 7:02 am

@Harmonica wrote:Zidane is also fake nt-player, been carried by superior teams, for him to steal all the glory at the end. Messi is really different, carries dysfunctional team to brink of titles, yet gets all the blame for his team for not winning.

Then again Messi is the Dark Knight.


Harmonica having a meltdown again . rofl Zidane a fake NT player ? now i've seen it all .
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Post by Thimmy on Mon Jun 27, 2016 7:05 am

@Harmonica wrote:Zidane is also fake nt-player, been carried by superior teams, for him to steal all the glory at the end. Messi is really different, carries dysfunctional team to brink of titles, yet gets all the blame for his team for not winning.

Then again Messi is the Dark Knight.


Do me a favor and create a .gif of Messi's dive in the final, would ya? Come on, It's not as if you're ever busy Razz
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Re: Lionel Mesxit: 'The national team is over for me'

Post by Harmonica on Mon Jun 27, 2016 7:06 am

@farfan wrote:
@Harmonica wrote:Zidane is also fake nt-player, been carried by superior teams, for him to steal all the glory at the end. Messi is really different, carries dysfunctional team to brink of titles, yet gets all the blame for his team for not winning.

Then again Messi is the Dark Knight.


Harmonica having a meltdown  again . rofl    Zidane a fake NT player ? now i've seen it all .
Zidane WC06



3 goals from 6 great scoring chances
10 great scoring chances created
15 players beaten by dribble (OPTA)
4 tackles (OPTA)

Goals (Scored + Assisted + Involved)
5 (3 (2p) + 1 + 1) out of 9 team goals =  56% importance

Goals Scored
Spain 1
Portugal 1
Italy 1

Great Scoring Chances Missed
Brazil 1
Portugal 1
Italy 1

Great Chances Created
Switzerland 1
Switzerland 2
South Korea 1
South Korea 2
Spain 1
Brazil 1
Brazil 2
Brazil 3
Brazil 4
Italy 1

From the performance's I've watched, Zidane 06 is easily the least impressive:

- He coasted group phase, France tied twice with him and won crucially without him.
- Excluding the penalties he didn't create, scored only one goal from open play when the game was almost done an dusted.
- For a playmaker didn't create as much, only registered 12 chances created which is a lot less than other playmakers Cruyff 74 (36), Pele 70 (28), Maradona 86 (27), Messi 14 (23). Again watching the games confirm what statistics already pointed.
- The red card incident just about is the cherry on a hype crusted and half hollow cake.

Yet never got questioned over Golden Ball.


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Post by S on Mon Jun 27, 2016 7:06 am

Sounding like a mutiny against the Argentine football association than an actual retirement then.
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Re: Lionel Mesxit: 'The national team is over for me'

Post by Kebab on Mon Jun 27, 2016 7:07 am

None of those players were in messi situation
none of them lost the final 3 times. plus getting insulted.
Another thing is everyone in the world was waiting to see messi's destiny.nobody cares about argentina people just was waiting to see what will happen to messi's legacy. sudden shock and its very hard to handle. others didnt face such things
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Post by rincon on Mon Jun 27, 2016 7:09 am

@Harmonica wrote:
@farfan wrote:
@Harmonica wrote:Zidane is also fake nt-player, been carried by superior teams, for him to steal all the glory at the end. Messi is really different, carries dysfunctional team to brink of titles, yet gets all the blame for his team for not winning.

Then again Messi is the Dark Knight.


Harmonica having a meltdown  again . rofl    Zidane a fake NT player ? now i've seen it all .


3 goals from 6 great scoring chances
10 great scoring chances created
15 players beaten by dribble (OPTA)
4 tackles (OPTA)

Goals (Scored + Assisted + Involved)
5 (3 (2p) + 1 + 1) out of 9 team goals =  56% importance

Goals Scored
Spain 1
Portugal 1
Italy 1

Great Scoring Chances Missed
Brazil 1
Portugal 1
Italy 1

Great Chances Created
Switzerland 1
Switzerland 2
South Korea 1
South Korea 2
Spain 1
Brazil 1
Brazil 2
Brazil 3
Brazil 4
Italy 1

From the performance's I've watched, Zidane 06 is easily the least impressive:

- He coasted group phase, France tied twice with him and won crucially without him.
- Excluding the penalties he didn't create, scored only one goal from open play when the game was almost done an dusted.
- For a playmaker didn't create as much, only registered 12 chances created which is a lot less than other playmakers Cruyff 74 (36), Pele 70 (28), Maradona 86 (27), Messi 14 (23). Again watching the games confirm what statistics already pointed.
- The red card incident just about is the cherry on a hype crusted and half hollow cake.

Yet never got questioned over Golden Ball.


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Post by Mr Nick09 on Mon Jun 27, 2016 7:10 am



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Post by Kebab on Mon Jun 27, 2016 7:12 am

Harmonica accept the defeat and it will be easier. otherwise you will die from heart attack. just accept that next 10 days are messi bashing days. life goes on and there are better things than being a fan
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Post by rincon on Mon Jun 27, 2016 7:12 am

@Kebab wrote:None of those players were in messi situation
none of them lost the final 3 times. plus getting insulted.
Another thing is everyone in the world was waiting to see messi's destiny.nobody cares about argentina people just was waiting to see what will happen to messi's legacy. sudden shock and its very hard to handle. others didnt face such things


Except a lot of those players WERE in the same situation. Were Baggio and Ronaldo not considered the best players in the world and the best players in their world cups?

Argentinians care about Argentina.

Messi lost 4 finals now, of course he gets criticized, he should.
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Post by Doc on Mon Jun 27, 2016 7:12 am

None of those players were in Messi's situation? Rolling Eyes

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Post by Thimmy on Mon Jun 27, 2016 7:12 am

I think Kebab might be Harmonica's 5-year old brother hmm
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Post by farfan on Mon Jun 27, 2016 7:13 am

Also : 2 World cup finals , 3 Goals .

Anyone who was around that era remembers how important he was to that team and how impotent they looked without him .
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Re: Lionel Mesxit: 'The national team is over for me'

Post by Harmonica on Mon Jun 27, 2016 7:14 am

@rincon wrote:
@Harmonica wrote:
@farfan wrote:


Harmonica having a meltdown  again . rofl    Zidane a fake NT player ? now i've seen it all .


3 goals from 6 great scoring chances
10 great scoring chances created
15 players beaten by dribble (OPTA)
4 tackles (OPTA)

Goals (Scored + Assisted + Involved)
5 (3 (2p) + 1 + 1) out of 9 team goals =  56% importance

Goals Scored
Spain 1
Portugal 1
Italy 1

Great Scoring Chances Missed
Brazil 1
Portugal 1
Italy 1

Great Chances Created
Switzerland 1
Switzerland 2
South Korea 1
South Korea 2
Spain 1
Brazil 1
Brazil 2
Brazil 3
Brazil 4
Italy 1

From the performance's I've watched, Zidane 06 is easily the least impressive:

- He coasted group phase, France tied twice with him and won crucially without him.
- Excluding the penalties he didn't create, scored only one goal from open play when the game was almost done an dusted.
- For a playmaker didn't create as much, only registered 12 chances created which is a lot less than other playmakers Cruyff 74 (36), Pele 70 (28), Maradona 86 (27), Messi 14 (23). Again watching the games confirm what statistics already pointed.
- The red card incident just about is the cherry on a hype crusted and half hollow cake.

Yet never got questioned over Golden Ball.


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