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Post by S on Thu Jul 21, 2016 8:53 am

There was talk about Dortmund downgrading themselves hugely but i personally, still dont see much defects in this team. Perhaps the gap left by Hummels is the only area where they might struggle to fill initially.

They've upgraded on the LB position. They still have great options on the wings and with Schurrle , they'd be looking add a bit more depth. And now, with the prodigal son returning home, Dortmund's attacking arsenal looks a lot more attractive than it initially did, there's some serious depth now. People were talking about Mkhi being a big loss but as far as i know, he was absolutely dogshite the season before Tuchel arrived, perhaps one of Dortmund's worst buys. Now if a sulking, underperforming Mkhi can be totally transformed, why cant Gotze too ?!  Not to mention they got that exciting Turkish kid for absolute peanuts. Intially there might be a little struggle for new buys to adjust, but i think they'll do just absolutely fine.

Any idea if they're looking to replace Crockdogan ? Or they're happy with Rode, Sahin and Weigl ?


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Post by rwo power on Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:00 am

I think I mentioned that before - Dortmund's scouting is amazing - they always manage to unearth surprising gems. That's why I'm actually never really worried about them.

As for Ilkay Gündogan - well, he was injured more often than not, so they already coped nicely without him. I don't think they will need a direct replacement. BTW, they have Gonzalo Castro in CM, too.

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Re: Dortmund fraudulently building a mediocre team

Post by S on Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:13 am

Oh, totally forgot Castro. You're right. All the creativity perhaps will be centered around Gotze now. I'm glad chubby boy moved back to Dortmund.

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Post by M99 on Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:15 am

Who will replace Hummels?

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Post by rwo power on Thu Jul 21, 2016 9:21 am

There's Matthias Ginter when he's back from injury, and they just bought Marc Bartra from Barca.

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Post by Lucifer on Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:43 am

Dortmund as always building a solid nursery for Buyern.
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Post by Hapless_Hans on Thu Jul 21, 2016 10:50 am

M99 wrote:Who will replace Hummels?


That's the one they haven't replaced. Bartra is nowhere near the same quality.

Gündogan has practically left BVB already 3 seasons ago. They have a young Spaniard (Merido or something), Rode, and Castro to fill in but I assume they'll get someone else still at some point.
I could see Tielemans joining them.

In attack, they've lost Mkhi but added Dembele, Götze, and Mor.

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Post by Sri on Thu Jul 21, 2016 1:56 pm

Might be a fun season afterall.

Thought we'd get a rough ride after Mkhi, Hummels and Crockdogan.

Anyway, BVB is at least doing better than AW is. Some solace there.
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Re: Dortmund fraudulently building a mediocre team

Post by Lucifer on Thu Jul 21, 2016 2:10 pm

This is fooling no one Sri, "we" rofl
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Post by Don't call me James on Thu Jul 21, 2016 3:10 pm

lol they're not going to do anything just like last season. They are not going to win the league because Buyern is too good, They are not going finish lower than 2nd because the rest of the Bundesliga is garbage.

Same story in Europe.

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Post by Sri on Thu Jul 21, 2016 3:19 pm

Lucifer wrote:This is fooling no one Sri, "we" rofl


FFS

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I didn't change my 'Club Supported' to BVB for nothing. :/
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Post by Sri on Thu Jul 21, 2016 3:20 pm

Don't call me James wrote:lol they're not going to do anything just like last season. They are not going to win the league because Buyern is too good, They are not going finish lower than 2nd because the rest of the Bundesliga is garbage.

Same story in Europe.


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Re: Dortmund fraudulently building a mediocre team

Post by Mr Nick09 on Thu Jul 21, 2016 5:01 pm

They will win the title with this team imo, they look stacked.

Aubameyang
Reus-Gotze-Schurrle/Dembele
Weigl - whoever

:bow:

although, it's a bit of a change in style for Tuchel who mostly played a 41212 lat season.

cant trust carlo to win the title

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Thu Jul 21, 2016 5:07 pm

I'd agree Nick if the defense didn't look like it's going to suck lol.

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Post by Mr Nick09 on Thu Jul 21, 2016 5:12 pm

keeping in mind we are talking about the bundesliga, then i go with overwhelming offense and defense that still looks way above the rest of the league

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Thu Jul 21, 2016 5:21 pm

We saw how that worked in the past for Dortmund though, i wouldn't be surprised to see them dominate a game not score and suddenly get hit on the break.

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Re: Dortmund fraudulently building a mediocre team

Post by urbaNRoots on Thu Jul 21, 2016 6:08 pm

Let's see:

Hummels replaced by Bartra - a definite downgrade
Gündogan replaced by Rode - a definite downgrade
Mkhitaryan replaced by Dembele - a downgrade but an acceptable one
Kagawa replaced by Götze - a definite upgrade
Durm replaced by Guerrero - a definite upgrade

If we look overall, they've strengthened their attack (if Götze/Dembele are a success), but weakened their midfield and defence by replacing Hummels/Gündogan with Bartra/Rode. Bürki is also still Dortmund's first choice GK which is not acceptable.

Their attack will ensure a place in the Bundesliga top 4 but the expectations are low for everything else.
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Post by jibers on Thu Jul 21, 2016 6:16 pm

They have done very well. The only piece missing now to make their squad perfect is a ball carrier in CM. Castro isn't really one and you could see the difference in their play when Gundogan was fit. I can see him playing Gotze of Kagawa in that role. Kagawa was already playing sort of an #8.5 last year. If they start strong I think they can win the league tbh or at least push Bayern pretty far.


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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Thu Jul 21, 2016 6:18 pm

jibers wrote:They have done very well. The only piece missing now to make their squad perfect is a ball carrier in CM.


Let's not go mad, their defense is awful for a side whose squad is apparently perfect lol.

I don't think they are a better team tbh and finishing 2nd would be a good season.

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Post by Sri on Thu Jul 21, 2016 6:25 pm

We do need 1-2 at the back tbf.
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Post by Sri on Thu Jul 21, 2016 6:26 pm

Maybe Sahin, Kagawa and Götze will rediscover themselves :wub:
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Re: Dortmund fraudulently building a mediocre team

Post by jibers on Thu Jul 21, 2016 6:28 pm

Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
jibers wrote:They have done very well. The only piece missing now to make their squad perfect is a ball carrier in CM.


Let's not go mad, their defense is awful for a side whose squad is apparently perfect lol.

I don't think they are a better team tbh and finishing 2nd would be a good season.


Bayern have Ancelotti though who is a known bottler in leagues. How will they improve their defence exactly? It's a collective thing and they have a season under their belt now. Bartra should be able to adapt quite quickly.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Thu Jul 21, 2016 6:29 pm

More chance of me rediscovering myself tbh.

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Post by Great Leader Sprucenuce on Thu Jul 21, 2016 6:31 pm

jibers wrote:
Great Leader Sprucenuce wrote:
jibers wrote:They have done very well. The only piece missing now to make their squad perfect is a ball carrier in CM.


Let's not go mad, their defense is awful for a side whose squad is apparently perfect lol.

I don't think they are a better team tbh and finishing 2nd would be a good season.


Bayern have Ancelotti though who is a known bottler in leagues. How will they improve their defence exactly? It's a collective thing and they have a season under their belt now. Bartra should be able to adapt quite quickly.


You are acting like Fartra is anything but turd lol, besides they haven't had a collectively good defense for about 4 years. They obviously need better players back there and they don't have them, not in the slightest.

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Post by urbaNRoots on Thu Jul 21, 2016 7:02 pm

Dortmund already had a crap defence even with Hummels at the heart of the defence, I doubt it's going to improve with Fartra.

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