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Post by Freeza on Tue Aug 09, 2016 4:54 pm

@sportsczy wrote:The issue is striker....  not attacking mids who can play wide.  We have those in James, Isco and Kova if we need it.  But other than BBC, we only have Morata.  Given the injury issues of Bale and Benzema, only one backup striker is madness to me.

We play a 3 striker system.  We can get away with 2 if need be.  But we can't survive with only 1 striker unless we entirely change how we play.  Namely, with a 1 striker system, you need a AM and you need wing players capable of scoring consistently too.


Sure we need another last option backup at striker. But Jesé is way too good to have as a third option back up, even in Madrid. At least in this point of his career where he probably wants to play as much as he can. A good 32-34 year old striker should be an option to get for cheap. Someone who can offer a different dimension.

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Post by sportsczy on Tue Aug 09, 2016 5:09 pm

Yeah... anyone really, even if they're not the greatest. I would suggest Zizou and Flo get on it because stuff happens in a season. If we didn't play a tridente system, we'd be more than fine. In fact, I'd like us to play games without BBC intentionally so we get used to an alternative tactic. This would solve the issue.

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Post by Valkyrja on Tue Aug 09, 2016 5:22 pm

i'd like us to play 4-2-3-1 tbh today

Kiko
Carvajal Varane Ramos Marcelo
Modric Casemiro
Lucas James Isco
Morata


It's best suited to the players available. nobody said that we will always play 433. if 1+ of BBC isn't available zidane should play to the strengths of the available players.

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Post by titosantill on Tue Aug 09, 2016 5:36 pm

@valkyrja, yup, i'd say this is the most sensible option, hell, its only one game. i might even suggest benching casemiro (Who doesn't have reasonable competition yet) and carvajal....but i know fans on here are really interested in us winning this lol
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Post by Valkyrja on Tue Aug 09, 2016 5:47 pm

@titosantill wrote:@valkyrja, yup, i'd say this is the most sensible option, hell, its only one game. i might even suggest benching casemiro (Who doesn't have reasonable competition yet) and carvajal....but i know fans on here are really interested in us winning this lol


that's the best we can field today. i want us to win it too, of course.

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Post by Cyborg on Tue Aug 09, 2016 6:23 pm

@Valkyrja wrote:i'd like us to play 4-2-3-1 tbh today

Kiko
Carvajal Varane Ramos Marcelo
Modric Casemiro
Lucas James Isco
Morata


It's best suited to the players available. nobody said that we will always play 433. if 1+ of BBC isn't available zidane should play to the strengths of the available players.

I would prefer

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Carvajal Varane Ramos Marcelo
Casemiro
Modric Kovacic
James Morata Isco

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Post by Valkyrja on Tue Aug 09, 2016 6:40 pm

Z trusts Lucas more than Kovacic

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Post by halamadrid2 on Tue Aug 09, 2016 6:44 pm

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Post by halamadrid2 on Tue Aug 09, 2016 6:46 pm

Nice line up, no surprises that all players who have had more training will start

Kiko
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Lucas-Morata-Asensio

Let's do this

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Post by Valkyrja on Tue Aug 09, 2016 6:53 pm

Asensio over James. It's over for the Colombian

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Post by FennecFox7 on Tue Aug 09, 2016 7:08 pm

I'm so happy to see kova play Proud this is his chance to really impress. I'm convinced ZZ sees what I see in him
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Post by FalcaoPunch on Tue Aug 09, 2016 8:09 pm

Asensio with a sexy goal
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Post by FennecFox7 on Tue Aug 09, 2016 8:11 pm

Kovacic has been great. Everyone is playing good though. Love it
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Post by guest7 on Tue Aug 09, 2016 8:28 pm

Isco and Kovacic sucks
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Post by sportsczy on Tue Aug 09, 2016 8:29 pm

Marcelo cheaply tried a challenge and gets beat, Ramos has to come over, Varane comes to cover player Ramos had to leave... and Kova/Carvajal lose contain behind them.

It all started by crap defending by marcelo.

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Post by sportsczy on Tue Aug 09, 2016 8:31 pm

Morata looks so lost out there too.

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Post by halamadrid2 on Tue Aug 09, 2016 8:32 pm

Solid half. Such a poor goal to concede though. Varane should have done much better there.

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Post by FennecFox7 on Tue Aug 09, 2016 8:33 pm

Marcelo was at fault but varane *bleep* up there. Is it so hard not to be bias? Varane absolutely screwed up there.

Moratas positioning has been poor. We miss Benz so much. He's just making weird runs and not in sync with the team. On the ball though, morata has had good touches.
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Post by sportsczy on Tue Aug 09, 2016 8:36 pm

What did Varane do?  He challenged and the ball went past him and his man.  It's not like his man did anything.  The ball went past and nobody covered.  He can't just clatter into his guy... that's a foul.  He occupied him so he couldn't play the ball.

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Post by halamadrid2 on Tue Aug 09, 2016 8:37 pm

Give him time it's his 4th game since coming back. I like the midfield today. All 3 have been very good. Casemiro trying to buy fks a few times creating countera. Other than that they have been very good

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Post by sportsczy on Tue Aug 09, 2016 8:38 pm

Explain to me what Varane did wrong. Please Laughing

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Post by FennecFox7 on Tue Aug 09, 2016 8:38 pm

No, he can be in position to intercept or stay behind his man, not lunge in. Stop it dude. It's clearly his fault
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Post by halamadrid2 on Tue Aug 09, 2016 8:39 pm

Sport Varane didnt challenge for the ball successfully and that's the problem in that instance. It was rather lethargic of him imo


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Post by sportsczy on Tue Aug 09, 2016 8:39 pm

Show me on the video fennec. 17 sec marc. Exactly what is he supposed to do Laughing

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Post by sportsczy on Tue Aug 09, 2016 8:40 pm

He didn't challenge hard because he was in the box and he might have clattered into the guy.  He got into his jersey and his guy missed his control COMPLETELY as a result.  It fell to the unmarked man who was 10 meters to the side who took the shot.

You guys are amazing Laughing

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Post by halamadrid2 on Tue Aug 09, 2016 8:41 pm

Varane goes forward thn changes his mind and back tracks, then tries to kick the ball rather lethargic and so on

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